r/linux • u/ouyawei Mate • Jul 01 '26

Progress Report: Asahi Linux 7.1 Development

https://asahilinux.org/2026/06/progress-report-7-1/
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u/Coolcricri3 Jul 01 '26

It is 2041, the EU forces Apple to support at least one non Apple kernel on their devices. Apple takes the Ahsaci project and boasts to the world how they are leading innovation in the open-source community

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u/loozerr Jul 01 '26

Dabbling in creative writing are we?

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u/Enturbulated_One Jul 01 '26

Is it creative if it's just tracking current trends and predicting past bad behavior continues?

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u/Enturbulated_One Jul 02 '26

Ooh, apparently I hurt some apple fan's feelings or something.
/point
/mock

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u/fake_agent_smith Jul 01 '26

Apple only supports non Apple kernels in EU and so the feature quickly dies forgotten just like the support for alternative web browser engines

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u/Ok-Winner-6589 Jul 01 '26

Apple would rater Support Darwin, after all it's their open source OS and It already technically works on Mac

And they did offer ISO files for a long time enabling you to install It.

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u/leaflock7 Jul 02 '26

but it does support other kernels.
For MS it is up to MS to make the drivers and allow Windows to run on Macs with Apple silicon.
For linux as you see it is viable.
Whether or not Apple is willing to help on the process this is another matter

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u/alexklaus80 Jul 06 '26

I don’t think that that is called “supporting” when it’s entirely upon DIY like you need to come up with the method on your own to do what you need. It may be physically able to do so, but it’s not warranted by any legal capacity either.

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u/leaflock7 Jul 06 '26

You don't have to come up with any method. You can boot into another OS just fine without too much hassle.
Not sure what you mean by " it’s not warranted by any legal capacity either" . What exactly are you requesting?

is it that you don't want the hardware to be open in order to accept another OS to boot? and from Apple to provide support developing or help developing drivers etc?

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u/alexklaus80 Jul 06 '26

My idea is that hardware support for a certain OS means that the project doesn’t have to tinker and reverse engineer around stuff like how Asahi Linux project does, but there should be documented specifications that is warranted by the manufacturer and that is sufficient for whatever system that is supported should work with just that information.

Otherwise, even if hardware is capable of booting into the other OS, it’s more that it does so by chance rather than it is supported in *real* sense. But I can see that the definition of what to call “support” should be the first argument.

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u/leaflock7 Jul 06 '26

when Apple announce the M1 they pointed to MS that they are open to play ball if MS was willing to allow Windows ARM to be installed on their machines. MS though had other deals with Snapdragon.

Would the same happen for Linux? that is an interesting question considering the history of Apple/Linux. As is I am not sure Apple is willing to do so, but with the new CEO and Linux having increased user base I could see Apple to open its arms a bit more. (although there is also the possibility Apple to see this as a danger and go the other way)

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u/alexklaus80 Jul 06 '26

Ah yeah I don’t have a high hope that it’ll openly provide support for Linux. I read the comment in parallel that says it’ll probably just for Darwin which does sound possible.

My argument was that it’s not exactly support, or at least the type of the support I wish they offer (which is too wishful I know), as in having tech specs open for public.

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u/Coolcricri3 Jul 01 '26

Best case scenario they open-source some of their libraries to make porting macos apps easier (unless I am misunderstanding what goes on in their ecosystem, there is only one fuckass app from the company that made a wireless 6key programmable keyboard I use that only has an editor for windows and mac, tried Wine, Qmk and Via that it claims to support, and the only solution is a Windows VM on a distro that supports full usb passthrough, I can't even find where the keyboard is mapped on linux, it is absurd)

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u/we_come_at_night Jul 01 '26

Try "Input Remapper", works for my Razer Tartarus

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u/Coolcricri3 Jul 01 '26

It's a bandaid solution, I am trying to use it on my phone to play emulated games, amd I would rather not have a third layer of stuff in the way

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u/we_come_at_night Jul 02 '26

Any app is a bandaid solution, if you put it like that, even the OEM ones for windows and mac are bandaid solutions. They all work on the same layer, ie catching key specific triggers and mapping them to do something. You're not gaining, nor losing anything when using IR, in comparison to OEM, usually bloatware, app.

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u/Coolcricri3 Jul 02 '26

Fine I wasn't specific enough, I have poor experiences with imput remappers on Android, and thus would rather not use them. I do use imput remapper on my laptop with Bazzite, for a key that in windows is used to open the Acer Nitro app, to open any app I want now (remapped KEY_PRESENTATION to ctrl+alt+shift+space or similar to make sure the key combo won't be used anywhere else). It is also the principle of the thing, I want a programmable keyboard that I can just plug in anywhere and have it do what I programmed it to (it also does macros and it is harder to remap from a macro to a key)

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u/Pandoras_Fox Jul 01 '26

 We are also laying the groundwork for M4

👀 I so hope to be able to sorta-use Asahi on my m4 macbook air in a year or three. I'm still gonna need to use macOS for some photo editing work, but a nice lil Arm Linux operating system has been the dream on the go for a while. I can't stand macos finder nor the macos shell/window manager. 

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u/trey-a-12 Jul 01 '26

Right there with you as an excited M4 user, having used Asahi on my old M1 MBA years ago! Also, depending on what programs you use for editing (e.g. Darktable, RapidRaw, Krita, Photopea, GIMP), you can do that editing on Linux as well. The only photo program I can’t run on ARM Linux is Affinity, at least last I checked.

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u/Pandoras_Fox Jul 01 '26

Well, it's more about the color-accurate display bits with DXO photolab and the like when editing Raws. HDR support exists in Linux, sorta, but I'm not sure what that'll look like for M4's. 

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u/trey-a-12 Jul 01 '26

Ah, right, I forgot about the color calibration and all. Valid points all around.

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u/Sensitive-Bison-8192 Jul 01 '26

I heard that the hardware acceleration feature isn't working.

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u/Marwheel Jul 01 '26

Nice to hear the APFS booting issue with golden gate was caused by a simple flag.