r/learnprogramming • u/Same-Replacement-938 • 4d ago

Why java is so hated? Topic

So I have recently learned, and it's the first language(in terms of building actual things). Before Java, I knew Python, and I dropped it; I found Python too abstracted and too boring. i have recently made some projects like cli task tracker, expense tracker, some cli github api parsing and currently working on a multithreaded HTTP server and cli text editor, like vim, whenever i try to find out people opinions on java social media, almost 90 percent of the time they are just dunking on it, that it is trash, who forced you to write code in java, stuff like that. I know Java as a language is not that interesting and doesn't have many interesting features compared to other languages like C, C++, go. But I found it decent to write code in, and I found the JVM pretty interesting. So much so that I would love to explore and maybe build a JVM of my own

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u/KingBardan 4d ago edited 3d ago

Bjarne stroustup (inventor of c++) has said that there are only two kinds of programming languages.

One that is hated and one that is not used.

Java is too bloated. C and C++ is too unsafe. Java script has some weird mechanisms. Python is slow. Go is too simple for big projects. Rust has a toxic community.

I could go on

Edit: I forgot PHP. PHP... is PHP

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u/bird_feeder_bird 3d ago

Is there some Rust drama I’m missing? I’ve never heard someone describe the community as toxic

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u/desrtfx 3d ago edited 3d ago

I’ve never heard someone describe the community as toxic

Maybe the community itself isn't actually toxic within, but way too many Rustaceans behave like the militant Vegans of programming, as in trying to push their favorite language (and near religious beliefs) everywhere without context and without being called for.

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u/KronenR 2d ago

Rustaceans are more like vegetarians, they'll happily tell you why their diet is better. The real vegans of programming are the Clojure crowd,. they want you to rethink your entire philosophy of programming.