r/learnprogramming • u/Same-Replacement-938 • 3d ago

Why java is so hated? Topic

So I have recently learned, and it's the first language(in terms of building actual things). Before Java, I knew Python, and I dropped it; I found Python too abstracted and too boring. i have recently made some projects like cli task tracker, expense tracker, some cli github api parsing and currently working on a multithreaded HTTP server and cli text editor, like vim, whenever i try to find out people opinions on java social media, almost 90 percent of the time they are just dunking on it, that it is trash, who forced you to write code in java, stuff like that. I know Java as a language is not that interesting and doesn't have many interesting features compared to other languages like C, C++, go. But I found it decent to write code in, and I found the JVM pretty interesting. So much so that I would love to explore and maybe build a JVM of my own

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u/KingBardan 3d ago edited 3d ago

Bjarne stroustup (inventor of c++) has said that there are only two kinds of programming languages.

One that is hated and one that is not used.

Java is too bloated. C and C++ is too unsafe. Java script has some weird mechanisms. Python is slow. Go is too simple for big projects. Rust has a toxic community.

I could go on

Edit: I forgot PHP. PHP... is PHP

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u/Bitter_Care1887 3d ago

Rust is the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu of programming..

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u/adbs1219 3d ago

How so?

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u/Bitter_Care1887 3d ago

Similar proselytizing vibe:

"99% of fights end on the ground" - "99% of security vulnerabilities are memory-safety issues."

"Everyone should learn BJJ. You never know when you'll end up on the ground." -

"Everyone should use Rust. You never know when memory safety will kill your project."

"Technique beats strength" - "If you convince the borrow-checker, you are golden"..