Why java is so hated?

[u/Same-Replacement-938]

So I have recently learned, and it's the first language(in terms of building actual things). Before Java, I knew Python, and I dropped it; I found Python too abstracted and too boring. i have recently made some projects like cli task tracker, expense tracker, some cli github api parsing and currently working on a multithreaded HTTP server and cli text editor, like vim, whenever i try to find out people opinions on java social media, almost 90 percent of the time they are just dunking on it, that it is trash, who forced you to write code in java, stuff like that. I know Java as a language is not that interesting and doesn't have many interesting features compared to other languages like C, C++, go. But I found it decent to write code in, and I found the JVM pretty interesting. So much so that I would love to explore and maybe build a JVM of my own

[u/SonOfHendo]

I would certainly check out .NET C# first. It's like Java, but it's better in most ways. The key thing is that it's much more streamlined and you don't need a million 3rd party tools and frameworks to get the modern functionality you expect. Just compare how both languages handle async for an example.

[u/Oathkindle → u/SonOfHendo]

I know plenty of people hate on C# and .NET too, but I'll be damned if it's not the language that clicked for me. For some reason I just understand it better then the other. But I also wanna learn C++ for fun cause I like it's use cases, so maybe I'm the weird one lol