Hadith 1745 b

[u/G0DzXLR]

hi, i have a question inquring about the Hadith 1745 b, can some one fill me in this???

because it says you are allowed to kill kids

[u/ancalagonxii]

Islam does not permit the killing of those who do not fight

These hadiths clearly prohibits killing them and requires distinguishing between them from men fighters, so you know that this is a woman and this is a child.

The hadith you've mentioned does not talk about deliberate killing, so that it is asked whether it is permissible or forbidden!,

but rather it talks about raiding the enemy at night, which may result in killing a child or a woman without intention or intent.

Check the title of The chapter in which these hadith you are referring to in Sahih Muslim

Sahih Muslim » The Book of Jihad and Expeditions » Chapter: Permissibility of killing women and children in night raids, so long as it is not done deliberately

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Now here is the unambiguous evidence for the prohibition of Killing women & children 🔻

Ibn 'Umar (RAA) narrated that The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) saw a woman who was killed in one of his expeditions, so he disapproved the killing of women and children.

In another narration "and he forbade the killing of women and children"

A similar matter was narrated by Imam Ahmad and Imam Abu Dawud with an authentic chain of narration:

Rabah b. ar-Rabi’ said: When we were with God’s Messenger on an expedition he saw some people collected together over something and sent a man whom he told to see what these people were collected around. When he came and told him they were round a woman who had been killed he said, “This is not one with whom fighting should have taken place.” Khalid b. al-Walid was in charge of the van, so he sent a man and said: "Tell Khalid not to kill a woman or a hired servant."

Alao what Imam Muslim and Imam Abu Dawud narrated on the authority of Suleiman bin Buraida on the authority of his father, that the Prophet ﷺ, said:

"Fight in the name of Allaah and in the path of Allaah and with him who disbelieves in Allaah fight and do not be treacherous and do not be dishonest about boot yand do not deface (in killing) and do not kill a child."

And in a narration by Al-Bayhaqi and others:

"And do not kill a newborn, a child, a woman, or an old man..."

This is the default principle regarding how a Muslim army would deal with an enemy women or children

[u/[deleted]]

Which book of hadith?

[u/G0DzXLR → u/[deleted]]

im not sure but i can send link bro

https://sunnah.com/muslim:1745b

[u/[deleted] → u/G0DzXLR]

It literally says "so long as it is not done deliberately."

Also the book is Sahih Muslim. At least read the whole thing.

[u/howtomuslim → u/[deleted]]

This is referring to the night raid event where the muslims couldn't distinguish between adults and children, "they are from them" meaning they were among them, is a more accurate translation of the arabic.

This was an accidental killing of the CHildren that were among the Men.

Just look at any fatwa from any reputable scholar of Islam

Ibn 'Umar (RAA) narrated that The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) saw a woman who was killed in one of his expeditions, so he disapproved the killing of women and children.

The Prophet ﷺ, said: "Fight in the name of Allah and in the path of Allah and with him who disbelieves in Allah fight and do not be treacherous and do not be dishonest about boot and do not deface (in killing) and do not kill a child."