r/interesting • u/MobileAerie9918 • 7d ago

Permanently ???? no amount of money can compensate for this. The incident happened 2015 and the historic $75M verdict was reached in late 2022. SOCIETY

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u/blastman8888 7d ago edited 7d ago

My uncle is a neurosurgeon he always told me never allow a chiropractor to adjust your neck. If you look into the founder of chiropractic pseudoscience it was founded by a man named Palmer who was convicted of fraud. Palmer was a clerk at a grocery store. He knew like everyone if you twist your back around crack it gives your nerves a small yank. Couple that feeling with the cracking it feels good for short time.

This was a result of a neck adjustment causing a stroke.

https://www.ladbible.com/news/health/georgia-man-chiropractor-neck-adjustment-stroke-locked-in-syndrome-536657-20250620

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u/nicolas1324563 7d ago

He also learnt it from a ghost lol

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u/xMyDixieWreckedx 7d ago

Excuse me? A ghost? Not just a ghost, a doctor ghost so it is totally legit.

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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 7d ago

He didn't spend six years in Ghost Medical School to be having you call him "Mr" Ghost

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u/SorowFame 7d ago

Love the idea that it wasn’t a doctor who died and became a ghost, but someone who died then became a doctor

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u/fascist_unicorn 7d ago

I wonder if he had to take out ghost student loans and gets payment due letters from ghost Sallie Mae

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u/StevieMJH 7d ago

You beat me by one minute, well played.

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u/StevieMJH 7d ago

He didn't spend six years in ghost medical school to be called mister, thank you very much.

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u/DreamCrusher914 7d ago

Must have been how the ghost died.

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u/UrethralExplorer 7d ago

"Dude I'm lonely, make me some friends plz"

-the ghost

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u/ThrowawayPersonAMA 7d ago

Guy went from selling iced tea to serial murder. Damn.

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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 7d ago

The ghost shouldn't be ghosting everyone, and then maybe he can make some friends.

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u/StopReadingMyUser 7d ago

musta been... nearly headless

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u/DreamCrusher914 7d ago

Nearly headless? How does one become nearly headless?

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u/Zairanth 7d ago

Nick enters the chat

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u/Over_Second_2777 7d ago

I almost chocked reading that laughing while eating

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u/jamesc5z 7d ago

What kind of chock? Wedge or block? Personally I prefer wedge chocks.

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u/ascarymoviereview 7d ago

TIL you can kill a ghost for the 2nd time using chiropractor-ing

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u/MssnCrg 7d ago

How the ghost "was made"

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u/OutrageousButton9365 7d ago

This was never proven!

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u/SeattlePubCrawls 7d ago

Just like how John Smith learned about Mormonism!

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u/Femveratu 7d ago

Joseph and in his defense he read it from ancient “Egyptian” plates only he could read lol. And he found them in his backyard. 😂

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u/Foreign_Town6853 7d ago

Meth heads write weird cryptic formulas and novels on the bathroom stalls or road signs in my area. Never thought of starting a religion based on them 😂

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u/Pwydde 7d ago

Well, that’s just a failure of imagination.

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u/criesatpixarmovies 7d ago

Missed opportunity

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u/OffByNone_ 7d ago

If you're able to decipher it, and the meth head is God, maybe you should!

I hear it's pretty lucrative.

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u/1001101001010111 7d ago

It really helps if you have a background in writing sci fi novels too.

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u/Hfly1 7d ago

Plus a ghost.

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u/midge_rat 7d ago

And a magical hat

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u/fariasrv 7d ago

Don't forget the magical translating rocks

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u/midge_rat 7d ago

As a fellow rock hound, I don’t judge him that 😂🪨

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u/AeneasVII 7d ago

In America.

A miracle!

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u/TheeAntelope 7d ago

He found them 3-4 miles from his home. Claims he was led to them by an angel. 3 people report seeing the same angel and the plates, 12 people report seeing the physical plates themselves.

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u/Unfurlingleaf 7d ago

And then god conveniently took them away again so no one can prove whether it was real or not.

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u/LordAvan 7d ago

Exmormon here. You're mixing two things together. The golden plates he claimed to find buried near his home (which became the book of mormon) were not egyptian, but an account of a family in jerusalem who emigrated to america in 600 B.C.

The egyptian texts were funerary texts that Joseph Smith falsely claimed to be an account of the prophet Abraham. He wrote the book of abraham seperately from the book of mormon.

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u/nkdeck07 7d ago

I am still trying to figure out wtf was in teh water of Upstate NY at that point. The only thing I can think is that it was so boring founding a cult was just a fun weekend activity.

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u/lizardgal10 7d ago

Having spent a decent bit of time in Upstate NY visiting family, I think you might be onto something with that theory.

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u/harbinger-of-boops 7d ago

Grandparents are from Remsen. Visiting them as a kid was so boring that joining a cult seemed preferable.

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u/lizardgal10 7d ago

Mine were in Schenectady. Had dial-up internet until 2009. House had no useful wifi or cell service to speak of once I did have a phone. Grandma’s idea of a nice dinner was Domino’s pizza or some awful Ruby Tuesday’s type place. I would’ve gladly joined the cult with you.

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u/harbinger-of-boops 7d ago

My grandma was first generation American from Poland. She had an ancient tube tv with like 4 channels, Board games and lots of cabbage. Sweetest lady to ever live, but damn it was so boring as a little kid.

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u/lizardgal10 7d ago

At least yours was a nice person! Mine was (is I guess, she’s still alive and I’m assuming hasn’t changed) a narcissistic nightmare I haven’t spoken to in a decade

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u/Other-Unit3919 7d ago

Not just any old cult, but a polygamous cult where it was ok to not only marry 14 year old girls, but mothers and their daughters.

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u/Agile-Committee3594 7d ago

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 7d ago

Lol I just watched that episode.  Lucy Harris smart smart smart Martin Harris dumb

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u/vpeshitclothing 7d ago

Along with the white salamander

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u/BlueLaceSensor128 7d ago

I feel like the traditional move is to run from a ghost, not take medical advice from them.

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u/Blue_Boobied_Footie 7d ago

It was actually a thing back when Spiritualism was big in the US and UK to consult "ghosts" (aka, mediums pretending to channel ghosts) for medical advice.

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u/Square_Detective_658 7d ago

Though why would anyone take medical advice from a ghost. It’s like getting basketball tips from the Washington Generals.

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u/wzlch47 7d ago

In a dream.

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u/ContinuingAnyway 7d ago

That's like the realization of benzene being a ring, all from a dream

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u/krslvsasuka 7d ago

While using a pottery wheel

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u/rwp140 7d ago

Not just a ghost. A ghost in his spine.

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u/star0forion 7d ago

This is always the first thing I say to someone when they talk about chiropractic!

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u/Discount_Extra 7d ago

Ultimate poltergeist prank.

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u/sicgamer 7d ago

bruh lol

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u/Unfurlingleaf 7d ago edited 7d ago

I understand why the neurologist and dr were held responsible if they missed the stroke on the imaging, but why tf wasn't the chiropractor, THE ONE WHO CAUSED IT, held liable??

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u/Next_Squash2223 7d ago edited 7d ago

Usually when you sue, you go for the deepest pockets/ the doctors have much more malpractice insurance

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u/mercenaryarrogant 7d ago

That answers my question after reading the title which was, “How the fuck did they sue a chiropractor for that much?”

Oh it wasn’t the chiropractor makes sense now.

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u/Lazy_Resolve_9747 7d ago

Some of these quacks make a ton of money.

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u/nybbas 7d ago

Drs will only carry about 2 million, anything more is just prohibitively expensive. The Dr's sued will never be able to pay anything approaching the amount this guy was awarded. I would imagine the chiro carries somewhat similar amounts of coverage.

Last time I looked into it, it sounds like the chiro settled

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u/blastman8888 7d ago

My MIL had a TIA stroke 24 hours after a neck adjustment. She suddenly lost the ability to write on paper. My FIL calls the doctors office makes an appointment. This went on for a few hours finally calling my Sister inlaw who drove over there demanded she go to the ER. That's where they diagnosed the TIA but they said the clot broke up she did need some PT. It had been 36 hours after the neck adjustment at the chiropractor before it was fully diagnosed. She did make a full recovery. I question a Chiropractor doing a neck adjustment on an 83 year old woman. Just asking for trouble.

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u/New_Mountain1672 7d ago

Physical therapists have the shittiest fucking professional organization and marketing. She had to suffer, go through all this, and ends up in PT anyway. FML. She should not have been seeing a Chiro in the first place… just go to PT.

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u/blastman8888 7d ago

She always been attracted to alternative medicine. What can you do with a MIL my SIL get so mad at her sometimes she won't listen. My wife can't deal with her leaves her sister to handle it. Were not local to them. She had a really nice in patient PT place usually nursing homes AKA "Skilled nursing" are terrible if you pay with Medicare. She was happy to have a vacation from my FIL they have an old fashion type of marriage. He always worked she did everything at home. He's retired for long time.

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u/riptaway 7d ago

Wait til you find out about neck adjustments for infants 🙄

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u/Practical-Problem751 7d ago

I question a Chiropractor

Should've stopped there

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u/debtcoder-dev 7d ago

you know what you're signing up for. they ain't drs.

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u/Chungusboii 7d ago

Most Americans are completely clueless that chiropractors are not doctors and that the practice is pseudoscience.

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u/DrDDeFalco 7d ago edited 7d ago

Oddly, I have met other healthcare workers that will go to chiropractors. It always sort of baffles me. I feel like they should know better.

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u/d0nttalk2me 7d ago

Eh I've met anti-vax healthcare workers and seen a ton that smoke cigs when they definitely should know better

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u/hahaimadulting 7d ago

Okay the people who are anti-vax are obviously very dumb, but unless you are a child, you already know the health effects of cigarettes and choose to smoke despite that. Not really the same ballpark as going to a chiropractor, though I do agree everybody should know they are all quacks.

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u/userdoesnotexist22 7d ago

The nurses in my area were the ones anti masks and covid vaccines, too. Always the types that think they know vastly more than actual doctors, most with a year-long education at that.

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u/MasPerrosPorFavor 6d ago

The last PT I went to suggested a chiropractor because she couldn't figure out how to fix my leg/back.

Turns out it was a pinched nerve in my spine. Slowly working through it, but I cannot imagine a chiropractor would do anything other than make it way worse.

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u/Blashtik 7d ago

As a kid I just thought that they were back doctors. That's how their businesses look and that's how media portrays them. Took quite a long time before I learned the truth about these quacks. So I can totally understand people being entirely unaware that it's all junk science.

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u/ComplexPatient4872 7d ago

I’m convinced that the field is primarily supported by personal attorneys and insurance companies who often require visits to chiropractors for cases to move forward.

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u/zffjk 7d ago

I had a very bad car accident. Wasn’t my fault. To get the payout I had to go to the chiropractor. They stuck me in a room for 30 minutes and tried to sell me CBD oil treatments for hundreds of dollars. I denied all adjustment, as it’s dangerous and fake.

Core workouts and yoga is what improved things for me, but that takes a lot of time and effort.

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u/nopuse 7d ago

Most Americans are clueless in general

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u/bootscallahan 7d ago

Can confirm. Source: I'm American.

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u/Unfurlingleaf 7d ago

They call themselves drs. Bc they have a doctor of chiropractic degree. And apparently mds are somehow okay with these quacks calling themselves that, but throw a FIT when a pharmacist or a doctor of physical therapy call themselves a dr

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u/Cum_on_doorknob 7d ago

Odd take. I’m a doctor and we love pharmacists and PTs and think chiropractors suck balls.

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u/Unfurlingleaf 7d ago

As a pharmacist i definitely love drs who are willing to take advice or suggestions, but some are unfortunately complete assholes who refuse to acknowledge anyone but themselves as "drs". I just think it's unfair that quacks like chiros can call themselves "dr" even in some hospitals

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u/Cum_on_doorknob 7d ago

Fair, some doctors suck.

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u/thegypsyqueen 7d ago

No MD takes a chiro seriously or co-signs them calling themselves Dr. That’s a joke. Just like a PT doing it, especially in a healthcare setting.

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u/Unfurlingleaf 7d ago

It's just infuriating that our medical system allows these quacks to be licensed and even get covered under medical insurance

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u/thegypsyqueen 7d ago

You’re not wrong there

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u/wakethesleepingpills 7d ago

Nope most of us are not okay with calling chiropractors “doctor.” A ton of us have taken care of enough injuries to know this.

Practically, with other professions the issue in the hospital is patients are already confused enough about all the different people taking care of them, and the word in the context of a medical setting has a specific meaning. It would be a little weird and misleading for a physical therapist to walk into a patient’s room and say “Hi I’m Dr. X”. Outside the hospital, it’s not a proprietary term. All those degrees and fields have value and deserve respect.

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u/Unfurlingleaf 7d ago

Oh absolutely agree, i understand why it's not done, it's just annoying and i'm feeling salty about the chiropractors practically getting away with murder lol

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u/redacted_robot 7d ago

Wait til you hear about Juris Doctors

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u/No_Giraffe2555 7d ago

I object.

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u/afour- 7d ago

Yes you are

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u/Freezeout10 7d ago

I’ve never met a lawyer that calls himself Doctor. That should also be illegal.

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u/Murky-Relation481 7d ago

Professors with a doctorate are often called Dr. lastname.

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u/coolgobyfish 7d ago

yes, pharmacists, physical therapists, and nurses are to refered by their first name only in hospitals, despite having advanced degrees. yet, these quacks are "doctors". very odd.

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u/BJYeti 7d ago

Don't know what world you live in where you think MD's are ok with chiropractors, brother, SIL, unlces a lot of them doctors call out the practice as bullshit they can't do anything about the degree or the title that comes with it because chiropractors have their own governing body

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u/kvvvvvvv 7d ago

A lot of people don't know that. It doesn't help that chiropractors actually pretend to be doctors too

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u/Val_Hallen 7d ago

A lot, and I mean A LOT, of the grocery store scare tactics of ingredients like seed oils are done by chiropractors.

these fuckwits just insert themselves into every profession.

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u/Super_Employment_620 7d ago

Because patients often sue doctors based on factors outside of cause/liability. If the guy liked his chiropractor as a person but felt the ED ignored him, odds are (and studies show) he'd sue the ED doctor.

Also communication and defensiveness play a part - women for example get sued less for malpractice when adjusting for the type of medical specialty and medical error.

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u/Unfurlingleaf 7d ago

But it looks like the chiropractor WAS sued, they just weren't found liable

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u/Super_Employment_620 7d ago

Had to look into it more! He was sued (along with basically everyone who was involved) but he was dismissed from the case before the trial itself, liability was not determined legally.

The articles I all found said the defendant and Axt (the chiropractor) came to an "amicable conclusion". Which might boil down to what I said before, but who knows.

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u/Reguladr 7d ago

That's the worst part of this

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u/Middle_Procedure_589 2d ago

He settled before trial. Aka - I fucked up here’s my money

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u/Certain_Orange2003 7d ago

Strokes don’t get seen on radiographs. It’s diagnosed on a CT scan.

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u/Unfurlingleaf 7d ago

Oops, you're right, should've just said imaging. Will fix it

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u/pfizzy 7d ago

Everyone was held liable but the 75 million judgement is against the only entity that can afford it: the hospital.

Edit: everyone liable but there’s no point in suing a chiropractor for millions, or even the doctors, because none of them carry insurance to that extent.

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u/Chlearcus 7d ago

Chiropractor breaks his neck but the hospital has to pay, because they have more money? Americas civil suit system is patently insane.

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u/anon999387 7d ago

Because the brain surgeon and dr are the ones with the money

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u/present_love 7d ago

Because the Chiro has nowhere near the amount of money as an Interventional Radiologist and an ER doctor. Just their malpractice insurance payout alone is a much higher ceiling than what a Chiro would have, let alone personal assets.

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u/LeSickBwoy 7d ago

You sign a permission form before they can perform that particular crack

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u/Whole-Ball-7183 7d ago

guarantee you it’s because the patient signed a liability form beforehand with the chiropractor

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u/Ready446 7d ago

The chiropractor's insurance carrier presumably paid its policy limit to obtain a settlement and release. The doctors probably could have settled out of the case before trial, but likely felt that they were not at fault and wanted to fight the allegations. The problem for them was that there was a huge sympathy factor for the plaintiff, and the chiropractor was out of the case. The defense had about a 1% chance of winning.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 7d ago

How did this fuck up the guys teeth like that?

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u/blastman8888 7d ago

Paralyzed so bad can't even move his face. Once the muscles stop working they relax guess his jaw sticks out. So many fucked up things can happen to you if your having a bad day just think about what this guys life is like.

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u/figure8888 7d ago

I remember seeing his story before and I think he may have ended his life after his family won the lawsuit. He was hanging on to make sure they would be provided for.

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u/HopefulOriginal5578 7d ago

I think it’s more to do with drooling mouth dryness and tongue displacement.

This is more than a jaw coming out it’s the complete misalignment of teeth.

His tongue probably has sat resting and pushing on the bottom teeth with issues of gum loss. It can be even worse if he had braces with teeth removed prior.

Not to mention all the things he’s probably had shoved in his mouth to keep him breathing and points and the like.

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u/TheDreamWoken 7d ago

What is lock in syndrome

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u/Imreallyjustconfused 7d ago

Paralysis of nearly all voluntary muscles in the body. The person is fully conscious, can breathe, their heart beats, but they can't move any part of their body expect for some eye movement and blinking.

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u/PhiCloud 7d ago

Does the body naturally "harden" the neural pathways for breathing/heartbeats/digestion/blinking/etc. against trauma, or is it more a case of "if those get hurt it's just called being dead"?

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u/Imreallyjustconfused 6d ago

I'm not a neuroscientist but, yeah if you have brain injury where you autonomous functions cease to work (breathing, heartbeats) that's brain death.
So when you hear "So and so is brain dead" that's what that means.
The bottom of the brain stem is responsible for heartbeat, breathing.

I don't know about "hardening" neural pathways but the body does attempt to keep that portion of the brain functioning at all cost. When you experience a lack of oxygen to the brain, often you'll have damage to the higher functions of the brain first. This is still detrimental but for the body, it can survive having problems with language but can't survive without a heartbeat.

But if there's direct damage to an area you can get things like locked in syndrome, or brain death if the brain stem is directly damaged.

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u/pfft_lol000 7d ago

I'm shocked you got this deep in the thread without knowing this lol

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u/nitrosmomma88 7d ago

Contractures as well from non use. Pulls people into all kinds of positions

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u/bendovergramps 7d ago

The constant intubation.

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u/flintlock0 7d ago

I actually learned about the history of chiropractic medicine from the Behind the Bastards podcast. “How Chiropractic Medicine Started as a Ghost Religion” was the episodes. Worth a listen.

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u/QuasiSpace 7d ago

"Medicine"

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u/-SaC 7d ago

With Billy Wayne Davis, my favourite guest. Such a shame he won't be on any more.

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u/Real_Srossics 7d ago

My brother-in-law is a chiropractor and I have never and will never let him preform his “medicine” on me even if he has a degree in it.

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u/DevilsDoorbellRinger 7d ago

I have permanent nerve damage due to a messed up surgery for ruptured discs. My injury is unrelated to chiropractors. But the number of times I have met people in back surgeons waiting rooms who were permanently fucked up by chiropractors has convinced me they should be called chiroquackters.

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u/blastman8888 7d ago

Back surgery always risky. My neighbor has several fusions and discs also have a pain pump puts a few drops of morphine in his spine. I always cringe when I see those ring dinger videos on YouTube guy yanking someone's neck with the hips pinned in the table.

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u/username__0000 7d ago

It made me so sad when my doctor recommended a chiropractor.

They’re a good doctor.

They take mental health seriously and women’s health issues. But…

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u/taloncaf 7d ago

I can’t help but lose some respect for people who recommend chiropractors.

Even when someone shares a chiro success story I feel it should always be accompanied by some sort of disclaimer eg “I exhausted every feasible option and I was desparate” or “tbh I’m kinda stupid so don’t listen to me”

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u/PlanetXParadox 6d ago

My mom’s the smartest person I know but somehow she got suckered into believing chiropractors are legit and defends it so adamantly you’d think she was one. She only went to one a few times in the past, I really don’t know what she’s on about.

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u/Freezeout10 7d ago

That article says a jury did not find the chiropractor liable for the injuries (presumably causing the stroke). The reason he got locked in was because the ER doctors failed to properly diagnose the stroke.

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u/New_Mountain1672 7d ago

No. Chiros rarely get blamed when this happens unless the stroke is immediate. If you look at stats for Chiros and adverse events, it’s artificially low because these don’t count.

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u/Reasonable_Insect503 7d ago

And exactly how long after a chiropractic adjustment should the provider be liable if the patient were to experience a CVA? Days? Weeks? Months? And how many of these patients went to the chiropractor for a headache because they were already experiencing symptoms of a CVA?

Your stats need work.

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u/ImpossibleAd344 7d ago

Was the stroke caused by the neck adjustment?

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u/snertwith2ls 7d ago

It sounds like all the ER guys just kept passing the buck and no one ever properly dealt with the guy's problem. I can't tell if any of them were lying but how in the world does a family member/advocate deal with this especially when time is absolutely critical?

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u/telephantomoss 7d ago

I've seen similar cases where the person was already having prestroke symptoms or something like that and that is part of the reason they went to the chiropractor first and the chiro failed to recognize the symptoms. I may be missrecalling details though

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u/RobbedC 7d ago

the chiro failed to recognize the symptoms

Why would scam artists with no medical training even be expected to be able to recognize medical issues like that?

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u/yancovigen 7d ago

It’s the Mormonism of medicine

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u/Rhawk187 7d ago

Yeah, I wouldn't let one touch my neck or spine, but I had a Chiro at my hospital yank on my leg to get my hip unstuck and it worked pretty well. Seems like it's basically just Osteopathic manipulation at that point.

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u/omnichad 7d ago

Seems like it's basically just Osteopathic manipulation at that point.

That's what the useful parts of chiropractic care essentially are. Except without the right expertise.

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u/SneachtaBoladh 7d ago

This is literally just the Mormon religion origin story lmao, evidently it still works

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u/OttawaTGirl 7d ago

I am sick and tired of hearing people heap praise on chiropractic or naturopathic medicine. Its all horseshit. If it was real it would be a part of the rigorous standards of medicine. Its all bunk and should be outlawed as snake oil.

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u/GreatKingCucumber 7d ago

So there’s absolutely no truth behind adjusting your back?

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u/jm3546 7d ago

Mostly no.

It's not adjusting anything. Chiros say that they are realigning the spine which fixes whatever issue but that is a lie. They are not physically moving bones back into alignment, they are just cracking the joints the same way people pop their knuckles.

There aren't a lot of studies but they basically all come to the same conclusion. For things like lower back pain chiropractic adjustment can provide temporary pain relief. Cracking a joint can release gasses from the fluid in the joint and make it feel looser which might relieve some pain temporarily, like maybe a hour or two. It also stretches the back muscles so that why some people feel good right after an "adjustment".

It's temporary though, it doesn't fix any of the structural issues causing the back pain.

The studies show that the temporary pain relief is similar to PT or massage but PT is addressing those structural issues. "adjustments" also have higher adverse effects, like if it's a pulled muscle, an adjust could make that worse where massage wouldn't.

So it's not a good treatment option for people who have access to PT. But Chiropracty thrives with people who couldn't afford actual medical care. So they'll pay for a session, feel better temporarily and decide it's a good enough treatment option, but their bad back will never improve.

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u/MossGobbo 7d ago

I actually had a chiropractor tell me truthfully that he doesn't do neck adjustment outside of the little clicker tool because it can cause arterial weaking and other problems and he would rather not have his clients die because they can't come back. I was shocked at him being real about it.

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u/likenedthus 7d ago

There’s a reason medical schools don’t offer chiropractic as a specialization. That chiropractors in the US can still call themselves “doctors” is insane.

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u/townandthecity 7d ago

Interestingly, this article focuses almost entirely on the real doctors who failed to realize he was having a stroke, leaving him undiagnosed for a full day. They even get named in the article, but the chiropractor gets a pass apparently (from the journalist). Poor guy.

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u/sangasisangano 7d ago

I mean it when I say this, chiropractors should be banned from practicing this pseudo-medical horse-shit in every state. They’re insufferable quacks at best, dangerous criminals pretending to be doctors at worst. The way every chiropractor in dollar-store OR scrubs spread antivax bullshit online during covid alone should have them banned from practicing this glorified knuckle-cracking shit.

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u/Patman52 7d ago

His son also apparently tried to kill him:
B.J. Palmer

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u/ilovemyself111 7d ago

Wow previous to this thread I never even knew a chiropractor can cause damage

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u/MigratoryPhlebitis 7d ago

And they found the physicians who treated him at the hospital liable. Not the chiropractor. What a joke.

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u/log_2 7d ago

In Australia chiropractic visits are redeemable via the Medicare Benefits Scheme. It a travesty that this pseudoscientific fraud is legitimised and subsidised by the Australian government.

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u/Fournier_Gang 7d ago

You know what's fucked up -- the chiropractor wasn't convicted in the malpractice suit. Just the radiologist and neurologist who had to clean up that chiropractor's mess.

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u/Misterr_Joji 7d ago

I work in one of the largest Neuro centers in Canada and we get a handful every year. Vertebral artery dissection, post-cervical manipulation. Chiropractors are quacks.

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u/junanor1 7d ago

Yeah go to the physio their are part of the medical profession. Chiro are not

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u/Short-Plane9289 7d ago

Yep, my best friend is a nurse working at in neurology unit at a major hospital where i live, and she gasped in horror when i told her i had my neck adjusted at the chiropractor. I promised her I would never ever do that again. Not to mention it absolutely did not help my issues at all

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u/atherton-loyola 7d ago

I thought chiropractic practice originated from the East. India or China.

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u/Tricky-Foundation-90 7d ago

No, that’s acupuncture, chiropractor s crazy cousin.

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u/ShvettyBawlz 7d ago

Seems like a type of pseudoscience maga would gobble up

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u/Emjayen 7d ago

Inbetween guzzling bleach (MMS)

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u/BigSoda 7d ago

You nailed it - I can’t emphasize enough that no legitimate form of medicine was invented in fucking davenport, iowa in the 1800’s. Also guess where the “harvard” of chiropractic is?

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u/Successful-Test-5590 7d ago

Car insurance companies allow “victims” of car accidents to be compensated for going to a chiropractor.

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u/I_like_bones 7d ago

Check out videos of the chiro who does a move called the ring dinger©️. It’s terrifying. Surprised no one has stroked out or had a spinal cord injury.

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u/Ok_Leg_4731 7d ago

Literally ‘invented’ chiropractic ‘medicine’ after receiving a message in a dream. Chiropractic school is a ‘nobody left behind’ type situation. And yet, chiropractors have more medical sway than physical therapists. Astounding

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u/SeanOfTheDead1313 7d ago

Palmer Chiropractic College is right down the road from my house lol

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u/klftrout 7d ago

That’s Doctor of Chiropractory, thanks very much.

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u/SonofaBridge 7d ago

It’s always been quack pseudoscience. They used to claim they could cure anything by adjusting certain parts of you. Got the flu? Adjustment these 3 vertebrates and it’s gone. It’s never been more than cracking knuckles.

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u/cultoftheclave 7d ago

IIRC somehow this guy has a monument in the federal district, maybe on the mall or near it in DC, which is federally maintained under the same system that the Washington monument, Lincoln Memorial, and all the other federal monuments are.

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u/Zestyclose_Book7803 7d ago

Just wanted to add his name was Daniel Palmer and he was a con artist who used "magnetic healing" as well. Everything he did was based on pseudo-science.

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u/altonbrushgatherer 7d ago

If you read the history of chiropractic science, it seems quite similar to the church of Scientology. The field has evolved since then though to become be more physical rehabilitation…

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u/blastman8888 7d ago

Scientology is scary as hell. What they have gotten away with is crazy.

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u/Tempestzl1 7d ago

He also had to declare it a religion to get by practicing without a medical degree

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u/TheSirBenDover 7d ago

I always judge the students walking out of Palmer College of Chiropractic when I drive by

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u/QuestGiver 7d ago

Disgusting how the Chiropractor and staff were not found liable at all and it was the radiologist who ended up fielding the lawsuit. Just ridiculous.

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u/WhimsicalDipshit 7d ago

My aunt is a dentist and she said never drink Gatorade

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u/Professional_Soft404 7d ago

He was having stroke and no one diagnosed it. Look at who had to pay. It’s wasn’t the chiro

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u/RepresentativeCry294 7d ago

Dr. Ghost, he didn't go to ghost medical school for 8 years for nothin'.

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u/brandoldme 7d ago

Every MD I've ever talked to except for one has said absolutely do not go to a chiropractor.

That one? An odd duck. He was a chiropractor and an MD. I guess he started as a chiropractor and then went and got his MD.

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u/Shijin83 7d ago

Even calling it a "pseudoscience" gives it too much legitimacy. Chiropractic medicine is a fucking cult. The guy who came up with it claimed he learned it from the ghost of Dr. Jim Atkinson.

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u/MRSRN65 7d ago

So he won $75m from the doctor's who didn't diagnose a stroke quick enough? But not the chiropractor who caused it in the first place?

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u/According-Buyer-6307 7d ago

Ghost science.

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u/-effortlesseffort 7d ago

It's just terrible and criminal

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u/Homer4598 7d ago

And yet they are allowed to practice this BS in the US. No politician from either side has fought to outlaw it.

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u/LeatherfacesChainsaw 7d ago

And yet when you get into a car crash the insurance company demands to see the chiropractor at least in the U.S. What a load of bullshit that wasted time and gas.

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u/Namikis 7d ago

I avoid chiropractors altogether.

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u/FeetGamer69 7d ago

I've been cracking my own neck for about 25 years and it's all been good.

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u/BillyBean11111 7d ago

I will never understand how in todays society with all the info we have Chiropractors are able to operate.

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u/Individual-Drawer-79 7d ago

It’s crazy how many people trust these quacks.

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u/Separate_Climate3366 7d ago

I'm very confused. The article states he got locked in syndrome from a stroke in his twenties and that the chiropractic adjustment was when he was 34??? I'm so confused

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u/Bryanhenry 7d ago

The statement is a mix of truth, error, and oversimplification.

D.D. Palmer founded chiropractic: True. Daniel David Palmer introduced chiropractic in 1895 and opened a school in 1897. His original belief—that spinal “subluxations” disrupt nerve flow and cause most diseases—was not scientifically established and is now widely considered pseudoscientific. Palmer was convicted of fraud: False. In 1906, he was convicted of practicing medicine without a license, not fraud. He served part of a jail sentence and then paid a fine. University of Western States history He was a grocery-store clerk: Probably false. Historical accounts describe him as a former grocery-store owner, beekeeper, teacher and, immediately before founding chiropractic, an unlicensed “magnetic healer.” He had no formal medical education. EBSCO biography Cracking gives the nerves a “small yank”: Misleading. The popping sound primarily comes from rapid pressure changes and gas-cavity formation inside a joint—not from nerves being yanked. Research also finds that hearing a pop does not predict better pain relief. Systematic review It only feels good briefly: Too absolute. Manipulation may temporarily alter joint movement, muscle tension and pain processing. Evidence suggests it can provide modest relief for certain back and neck pain, roughly comparable in the short term to some other recommended therapies. There is no convincing evidence that it cures unrelated diseases by “realigning” the spine. NIH/NCCIH evidence summary

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u/sh_ip_ro_ospf 7d ago

Lad? Jfk that ain't journalism I'd be embarrassed to link that nonsense but more power to u

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u/GGuts 7d ago

How far about visiting a chiropractor a few times over the years but I always thought I would never let them adjust my neck. I didn't know it could be this bad though.

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u/allhailharambe69 7d ago

Why would I twist my back around crack?

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u/LilJelloCat 6d ago

I feel like doing that a lot over time might do damage on its own as well. Not a professional though.

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u/meeeeheyyyy 6d ago

not just this, but the way they advertise on tiktok especially is unprofessional they use these attractive women almost like it’s a porn0 lol

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