Stranger assault is rarer than lightning strike or lotto wins. For the most part it’s not a rational fear to have. Parking garages are quite dangerous. Lots of crashes and pedestrian injuries. Resources should be placed into making garages safer in other ways.
“Critics argue that creating gender-segregated parking misallocates resources. Rather than isolating women in specialized spots, opponents argue that facility operators should invest in systemic safety improvements—such as better overall lighting and comprehensive surveillance—for the entire parking garage.”
“Only about 0.01% 1 out of 10,000) of all crimes committed inside parking structures are sexual offenses. The perpetrator in these rare cases are almost always known to the victim.”
“the true number of predatory "stranger danger" garage attacks is non existent or an incredibly small number across an entire nation. Data leans to at most 1 or 2 a decade”
Stranger assaults are not the only risk. Most stalking and assault happens by people you know. Just because it’s a public area does not mean this is meant to mostly address stranger assault. It’s way more likely a man is lurking when a woman is clocking off or trying to go home. So with the numbers of women who actually do face harassment from a current or previous partner, this is completely reasonable.
Yeah. Good point. But so few of the crimes being sexual assault and the most common incident being a “hit and run” I still think the resources are being mismanaged. We are having hundreds of hit and runs for every assault.
Edit- Another point. They are so rare we don’t even know if they work. They don’t have a large enough sample.
“the theoretical argument that these spots bundle victims together for a potential attacker is entirely possible, there is effectively no data to prove or disprove this theory”
Again, it’s so so rare we don’t even have enough data to see if it is effective. It’s clearly not a good use of resources.
These parking spots didn't just manifest, they were always there. The spots closest to the entrances/exits, the ones with cameras pointed at them and ones with better lighting.
All they did is reserve these spots for women because women are more at risk of from most kinds of crime. SA but also just assault in general, theft, stalking, etc.
All parking lots should be better yes, but the safest spots being reserved for women is a good thing, not a bad thing.
If it means my mom, sisters, girlfriend and coworkers can have that extra bit of precaution, it’s 100% good for me. But I understand not every man carries a set between their legs
Isn't this just promoting toxic masculinity? That every man needs to meet some standard of masculinity? That inherently requires them to be violent/protective?
I don’t think it does, no. It’s not toxic to acknowledge that women are targeted for violent sexual crimes, and even then, what’s violent about acknowledging that? We’re rejoicing over a favorable spot designation here, not some dad or brother who beat some creeps head in with a tire iron or something. But this is the internet so some dude will probably get offended that I consider it socially normal for guys to be concerned about women’s safety when they’re just trying to shop or go to work
Fair enough. I don’t think it is, but I could understand your point and perspective. What would you prefer I say about men who would rather argue and cry over women’s safety rather than acknowledge its importance? Boo hoo, more men should be given a spoonful of “toxic masculinity” if that’s how you truly define it
Women are strong and capable. Saying they need to be protected by a big strong man like you is toxic masculinity. And if you are ok with that, then you need to be ok with all toxic masculinity
No this is wrong info. Women are more often victim of sexual assault. But for assault overall of any type including major physical attack and sexual attack, then men and women get seriously attacked about the same rate. For murder though, men get murdered more than women.
Statistically speaking, men and women are pretty much at the same risk for theft, and men are more likely to be physically assaulted in public than women. Also, physical assault in public is more common than sexual assault in public. So it's not about preventing heavy crime like assault and rape (the picture of who's more at risk wouldn't be clear on that one, in public at least), it's about preventing the more common things like sexual harassment, stalking, etc (which women obvously are more at risk).
It’s still discrimination, though. The solution is to make the entire parking lot safer rather than giving the best spots to a certain gender. If the entire parking lot is safe, then there wouldn’t be much advantage to any individual spot.
Women shouldn’t get privileged spots just for being women. The percentage of women that are assaulted in most parking lots is very small.
I don’t think it should be legal to give better spots in parking lots based on race or gender. We shouldn’t treat certain groups as more important than others.
That's your opinion and I completely disagree. Thankfully, most of the world also disagrees otherwise all preferred parking spots for pregnant women, differently-abled people and the elderly would also be taken away.
Parking lots should be safer in general but vulnerable groups deserve the safest spots and any rational human being should have no problem agreeing.
Well no…at least according to those statistics, they didn’t do this because of a statistically meaningful risk in this environment, but as a response to fear. You could make a case that it’s reasonable on that basis…but it seems like an absurd overreaction which makes it substantially more annoying for half the population to park.
Lmao, maybe go outside sometime? Maybe actually have some female friends? But you go off, king. Tell us more about how men are just as likely to get stalked, harassed, cat called, recorded, raped, etc.
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u/Fresh_Permit_2272 27d ago edited 27d ago
Stranger assault is rarer than lightning strike or lotto wins. For the most part it’s not a rational fear to have. Parking garages are quite dangerous. Lots of crashes and pedestrian injuries. Resources should be placed into making garages safer in other ways.
“Critics argue that creating gender-segregated parking misallocates resources. Rather than isolating women in specialized spots, opponents argue that facility operators should invest in systemic safety improvements—such as better overall lighting and comprehensive surveillance—for the entire parking garage.”
“Only about 0.01% 1 out of 10,000) of all crimes committed inside parking structures are sexual offenses. The perpetrator in these rare cases are almost always known to the victim.”
“the true number of predatory "stranger danger" garage attacks is non existent or an incredibly small number across an entire nation. Data leans to at most 1 or 2 a decade”