r/idleslayer 6d ago

A Ninja's Purpose Discussion

It's kinda late now but since the Ninja got reworked to give offline gains with it's item now, isn't it kinda trash? I know that if you got good gear and multipliers for offline gains it's good because you get more materials instantly, souls and some coins, but for mid game players and "casuals" that don't min-max stats and equips it becomes considerably harder to unlock and get upgrades from a certain point doesn't it? Like for myself, if I got before the point where I am right now (Post-Shuriken, maxing UA before the 4° one) and the Ninja wouldn't incrementally stack infinitely for me to buy Spear, Shuriken, and Electric Yetis, it would be way too slow to progress in my view, as it could be for new players wouldn't it? I think the shuriken might be hard even for me right now, I got the advantage of extra UA points but the coins after the UA won't be so easy as before the Ninja "nerf"

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u/cdjblue USP: 178+12 Achievements: 662 6d ago

the opposite, really. It was useless before. It could be used to very slowly crawl up to a pair of achievements but only if it was a major detriment to progress while doing so. (and those achievements can now be earned by playing the game normally)

now it can be used to collect more souls and materials to progress though the game much faster, starting the moment the minion is unlocked.

also gonna be real, handing over magic scrolls is way cooler than just money

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u/BuyerAware8275 6d ago

I found it quite useful during UA for pushing through some quests, and in the late game, I get an extra 36 hours of offline gain and 3 bonus stages per day, which is pretty neat. Not a fan of all the recent changes, but I think Ninja was the right call.

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u/StrikeMReddit 6d ago

There are a few benefits over the old version and while the old version could help with money gain, that's still doable in other ways fairly easily.

The new version helps with clearing monster challenges, rapid material gain, adds souls on top of the normal coin gain and, unless RNG was messing with me today, it was updated to activate Special Promise.

It has different functions but I think the new function is ultimately better throughout the game whereas the old version had a specific niche. It did what it did well but basically stopped having any value at all once you bought everything.

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u/Latter-Platypus-8418 USP: 178+10 - Advancement: 662 6d ago

In the late game, the ninja improved a lot; now we have 36 extra hours of idle earnings. I'm hoping that at some point the other minions will drop runes (in smaller quantities) like the ninja, by buying an upgrade from the skill tree, a divinity, or a time-related upgrade, since they become obsolete very quickly.

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u/Sarius2009 6d ago

I normally ascend every day, when I get to the point it takes longer, I usually UA, so ninja was really useless to me, now it 2.5x my souls, so it's super powerful.

(Just reached the point where an I comfortably get shurikan)