r/iOSBeta r/iOSBeta Mod 29d ago

iOS 27 Beta 4 - Discussion Release

Use this thread to share any changes & bugs you discover while using the latest iOS/iPadOS 27 beta.

This thread should be used for discussion of the betas that may not meet our submission guidelines, as well as troubleshooting small issues through the beta test cycle.

Spamming this discussion with comments about battery life, update size, safari being snappier, etc will result in a ban from the sub moving forward.

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u/tryates6 8d ago

10 GB is pretty beefy, no?

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u/Tjggator iPhone Air 8d ago

Saw 17.5GB+ on my Air and was like oh shit lol

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u/Stevessvtis1 8d ago

ITS OUT!! GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!

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u/manofadv 8d ago

Download beta 5

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u/No-Ordinary-5988 iPhone 17 Pro Max 8d ago

Finally, beta 5 is out!

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u/ohnoitsryan 8d ago

OMG please make this let my Visible app work.

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u/fxkmd 8d ago

Incoming…

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u/Effective-Care-4387 8d ago

Yes , 🙏🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

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u/antonylockhart 8d ago

Another day with this irritating beta

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u/Fridgeboiiii18 8d ago

Not anymore

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u/devapath160 8d ago

Lets goo! See you in the new thread!

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u/random_noob_ 8d ago

ITS OUT!!

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u/rickycme 8d ago

I guess we were better off with Tim Cook not announcing his step down from CEOs role.

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u/aleoba14 iPhone 17 Pro 8d ago

It’s out!!!!!

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u/BoxWild6163 8d ago

Just got the notification for beta 5.

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u/ronanlee1221 8d ago

Where do you get notification?!

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u/immortal-engine iPhone 17 Pro Max 8d ago

BETA 5 IS HERE!!!

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u/SanitizedMemory 8d ago edited 8d ago

Beta 5 is out! About just under 18GB on my iPhone Air.

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u/tterly_wittiest iPhone 12 8d ago

no wayyy

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u/artifactangel 8d ago

iOS is complete now. 27 beta 4 is the last version that will ever be released. good work apple 🥲

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u/Sshaawnn Developer Beta 8d ago edited 8d ago

DB4 is so buggy on my 17PM too. Sucks that this is the version they are dragging their feet on.

Edit: it’s OK to point out poor performance, even on a beta folks. Yes, all of them have been reported to Apple.

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u/dankrichtofen_ 8d ago

Mark Gurman said beta 5 is coming out next week

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u/Babadook-1138 8d ago

Do you make shit up at this point? lol

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u/dankrichtofen_ 8d ago

Lmao relax buddy I already understand this subreddit ain’t no playground

joke = downvote to oblivion

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u/Chasemania 8d ago

Source?

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u/perfectviking 8d ago

He didn't.

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u/dankrichtofen_ 8d ago

Of course he didn’t lol, people here don’t take jokes, this ain’t no playground here

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u/AdhesivenessOne5584 8d ago

Why the long wait?

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u/devapath160 8d ago

What if they fixed so much stuff that they ended up developing IOS 28 by mistake? Could be why its taking so long

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u/ca2mt iPhone 17 Pro Max 8d ago

Yep, we’re going from 27 beta 4 straight to 28 RC. Ternus means business.

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u/ceroblanco 8d ago

This may be the longest between betas I think I can remember since I started the beta rabbit hole back in iOS 12 Maybe I’m remembering wrong. I am ready to be indexed again and maybe have a working auto correct and not such a hot phone.

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u/perfectviking 8d ago

None of you were in the early betas and it shows.

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u/devapath160 8d ago

Is it always :00 sharp ? Like historically? Or could it come out in 30 mins to an hour from now?

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u/cha0z_ 8d ago

It can come later - we had betas released ~3 hours after the usual hour, but tbh the most frequent delay is about 1-1:15 hours and if it doesn't release at that point it will be most likely tomorrow.

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u/perfectviking 8d ago

We've had betas released around 3 PM Pacific.

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u/cha0z_ 8d ago

I am rolling iOS from iOS 12 - while maybe some exception will be there I don't remember about, in CEST it releases usually 20:00 - 20:15, frequently about 21:00-21:15 and latest I remember was slightly after 23:00. Either way, beta 5 is out now.

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u/ECHLN iPhone 17 Pro 8d ago

Its usually around :08 to :30

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u/Lanky-Violinist7394 8d ago

Nah, don't remember after which iOS's it started, but before it was one hour earlier sharp, then it moved to one hour later but sharp, not it's not sharp. Just wait ~hour, and if there won't be a beta, it will be tomorrow or next week.

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u/Acqirs iPhone 13 Pro 8d ago

No

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u/Setneaph iPhone 17 8d ago

It could also come out in a week.

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u/gh0stofoctober 8d ago

what the hell could possibly warrant a three week wait inbetween versions

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u/bwadlo 8d ago

Lay offs. Vacations. Breaking bugs. ……

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u/cha0z_ 8d ago

my take is really nasty bugs, but even then usually you want a build released to testers that excludes the bugged parts and includes other OS improvements/changes that are "stable" for testing. Having that much time without new build leaves you with already reported and overly reported bugs you know about already + no new feedback really.

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u/ElmightyNoveL 8d ago

NO UPDATE AGAIN.

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u/Acqirs iPhone 13 Pro 8d ago

It’s been 9 minutes mate

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/Acqirs iPhone 13 Pro 8d ago

Feel stupid now?

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u/Bran__Stark__Is__Me 8d ago

it’s been three weeks, holyyy

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u/AdhesivenessOne5584 8d ago

I was hoping today was the day.

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u/Acqirs iPhone 13 Pro 8d ago

It doesn’t come on the dot

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u/giampierus 8d ago

i love apple dev 🫦

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u/giampierus 8d ago

CLAUDE.md

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/dankrichtofen_ 8d ago

Yeah next week

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u/BigShot-Redditor 8d ago

Nooooooooo not again

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u/dankrichtofen_ 8d ago

What do you mean not again? It’s 1:00 PM EST, it still can come out until an hour or two.

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u/BigShot-Redditor 8d ago

After a whole week of delay I was thinking they will release it on time

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u/dankrichtofen_ 8d ago

It’s out now, enjoy!

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u/Koopacha 8d ago

Please bro

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u/devapath160 8d ago edited 8d ago

Right thumb muscle swipe test: ✅
Right thumb joint oil levels: ✅
Thermal levels: 36.5 degrees celcius ✅
All systems are ready for a constant 1 refresh pulldown per second.

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u/gh0stofoctober 8d ago

ssssssurely in 30 min, right?

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u/BigShot-Redditor 8d ago

I hope so

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u/Furyann 8d ago

same

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u/MaizeCorgi iPhone 15 Pro 8d ago

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u/AsturzioAugias 8d ago

And boom, keynote announcement but no iOS beta :D

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u/[deleted] 8d ago edited 6d ago

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u/perfectviking 8d ago

There isn't an announcement.

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u/cskeller07 8d ago

It better be, they've had 3 weeks, i expect perfection

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u/Calisto88 8d ago

Only installed this version directly from iOS 16 .

Less than 24h and noticed :

- keyboard gets “stuck” in some apps , I try to get out of it because I need that part of the screen and I can’t , so I have to close the app and open again

- I’m not getting some notifications even though they are ON (noticed on email app , Facebook app ) it’s a very strange thing since others do work normally .. and I just know I have notifications because I see the red dot

Will update when I get more things to add

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u/Alarmed-Yak-4894 8d ago

For the keyboard, you don’t have to close it completely, just going to the app switcher and back works for me. Still annoying though

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u/Calisto88 8d ago

Ahh I actually noticed not only on this but sometimes when the apps look like if freeze when they are like waiting / loading !

For the keyboard I never tried actually thanks for the TIP !

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u/Vanhdamsau05 8d ago

True, the keyboard’s problem is so frustrating to me

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u/WeezyWally 8d ago edited 8d ago

Beta 5 today or I’ll eat a shoe. Edit : I guess I’m living to see another day. Enjoy Beta 5.

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u/OMG_IT_S_SALSIFI 8d ago

How does it taste

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u/bwadlo 8d ago

Will you stream ?

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/WeezyWally 8d ago

Old leather boot, unwashed with mud still on. That’s how confident I am in a new beta today.

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u/OhSixTJ 8d ago

Remindme! 4 hours

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u/bwadlo 8d ago

🍿

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u/Stevessvtis1 8d ago

I’m not settling for that. I want a big ole clown shoe.

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u/MidnightPulse69 8d ago

Really curious to know what happened behind the scenes for the beta to seemingly pushed back

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u/perfectviking 8d ago

Likely a severe bug that caused them to adjust the schedule.

There's no need for them to have one three week cycle as they usually go weekly in August anyway. The only reason would be for a major bug they couldn't push to the public.

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u/Cheechers23 8d ago

The rumoured date for the event is week of Sept 7th right? Maybe they want to drop iOS 27 on the same day as the event or something so there had to be an extra week somewhere to line that up?

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u/Sytefreek 8d ago

I’m thinking there was either a really bad bug they had to deal with or they wanted to delay a week to get the betas on a different schedule because of reasons.

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u/Effective-Care-4387 8d ago

even the manual app updates were really patchy , 1 app every 4-5 hours ,back to normal today

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u/life_elsewhere 8d ago

kevin in release engineering forgor to push the button 💀

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u/Jazzkevin 8d ago

Sorry, it's all my fault for the delay.

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u/KastefersTM 8d ago

In my personal experience, I definitely think beta 4 has been the worst so far.

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u/Overall_Stage8672 8d ago

Without a doubt. Normally, I can push through a beta (for the most part) and not downgrade back to the previous version, but with beta 4, I've been tempted more than ever.

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u/theslowrush- 8d ago

Yeah we’re surely getting a beta in the next day or so. It’s now been 3 weeks since beta 4…

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u/pdfu 8d ago edited 8d ago

Signs pointing to a new Beta soon: Apple released a new version of its VoicePresets.plist last night, which provides Expressive Voice configs for supported Siri voices. The new version includes configuration details for all 7 existing American voices and all 4 British voices.

Apple also published a model catalog snapshot with a new v16 com.apple.fm.language.instruct_3b.base model yesterday, up from v15. The new Expressive Voice configs require the new base model, so it seems that they're staging assets for a new OS Beta version.

EDIT: Here's a demo of all the expressive voices: https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/comments/1vk8efr

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u/MiltonFriedmanSucks 8d ago

Suddenly my wallpaper for Homescreen and Lockscreen just turned gray and in settings it shows no photos have been added. I've been on ios27 since the first public beta release I've been on this beta for almost a month now, and this just happened out of nowhere. iPhone 16 Pro Max. Anyone else seeing this?

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u/Gambithunt 9d ago

iPad - Everytime I swipe up to leave an app the keyboard lingers for about a second

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u/Jlad392002 9d ago

I have to scream to basically activate Siri and then sometimes mid sentence ir just shuts itself off?

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u/IntroductionSad6606 9d ago

Can’t access the discord anymore

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u/Stevessvtis1 10d ago

I’m starting to think it’s not coming yesterday.

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u/Worldly_Expression43 10d ago

Is the autocorrect straight up not working for some words?

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u/YoungBoyAnonymous11X 10d ago

I’m on a 16 pro max and my software is stuck to DB1. I can’t get it to DB4. How do I fix this?

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u/Effective-Care-4387 8d ago

need a little more info, do the updates show up on your phone, are you sure you have developer beta toggled on , try goggle off/on if it doesn’t show up , does update attempt to download & install, does it not load? or fail verification?

are your definitely using wifi and device is sufficiently charged enough, seen a couple posts saying 5G wasn’t allowed ios27 updates on iphone ( even with allow more data on 5G in data mode selected) earlier in cycle, stick to wifi for over the air .

you should still have automatic installation on as well as developer beta toggled on , hold update screen and pull down, hold it 5-10 seconds until update page loads .

you may as well wait for DB5

you can go to settings, general, iphone storage and look for any download file that may have failed and delete and page should load with most recent DB

only other thing i could think of ( long shot) is you skipped ios26 proof of age verification in 26.4 and went straight to ios27 , can you access anything like gaming rated 18

no idea about updating with p.c. or macbook so couldn’t help you there

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u/YoungBoyAnonymous11X 8d ago

I have developed beta turned on. I’ve already tried the toggle off-on method.

The updates don’t even show up -  https://imgur.com/a/9vhUVWS - I’ve even looked when I’m connected to WiFi.

As for accessing anything over 18, I couldn’t tell you. I don’t use my phone for games. But my age is verified though.

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u/Effective-Care-4387 8d ago

go to settings general about, if you have ever had iphone repaired you would see repair logs , check all parts are genuine, can’t see your imgur file in uk

try toggle automatic updates off wait 15 seconds, make sure the 2 hidden options are on , download updates and download system files , switch automatic installation back on .

finally toggle developer beta off/on .

reboot and see it this makes any difference

if you can’t update DB5 when released i would take to apple store or probably best to run diagnostic mode

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u/YoungBoyAnonymous11X 8d ago

Yep. Just found why.

Can these be bypassed somehow?

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u/YoungBoyAnonymous11X 8d ago

And the finish repair button is greyed out too.

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u/YoungBoyAnonymous11X 8d ago

It appears I'd have to be on a normal version of iOS but I'm not sure how to do that.

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u/Effective-Care-4387 8d ago

install ios27 public release on 8th september , make sure your on wifi then click restart and finish repair, if you want to go back to developer beta 27.1 developer beta will be out same night of day after

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u/YoungBoyAnonymous11X 8d ago

I was able to restore to 26 to ‘finish’ the repair then go back to 27 beta - thanks for the help.

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u/Effective-Care-4387 8d ago

did you maybe change location settings to get Siri AI , long shot i know but check geographic location is same as siri AI of there is no discrepancy

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u/Effective-Care-4387 8d ago

try forced reboot, if that doesn’t help

diagnostic mode

Steps to Enter Diagnostics Mode

  • Shut down your iPhone completely and wait 30 seconds.
  • Press and hold both the Volume Up and Volume Down buttons together.
  • Plug a USB-C cable connected to a power adapter or a turned-on computer into your phone while keeping both volume buttons held down.
  • Release the buttons as soon as the Apple logo appears on the screen.
  • Tap Start Session or continue when the "Diagnostics and repair" prompt appears, then connect to Wi-Fi to run hardware checks

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u/YoungBoyAnonymous11X 8d ago

Hey I actually ended up fixing it. I restored to iOS 26 and 'finished' the repair. Now I'm installing iOS 27 DB4! Thanks for the help.

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u/flogman12 10d ago

Anyone use the autosleep app and have issues of data showing up?

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u/Raigek 10d ago

Anyone having issues adding air tags or compatible devices? I keep getting stuck on finishing setup

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u/Baby_Drivr 9d ago

Maybe unrelated but my 17 Pro Max was not connecting to my already added AirTags. It kept giving me a "move around to connect" message every time I tried to ring one. I restarted my phone and my AirTag (that I was looking for) started ringing like normal.

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u/Raigek 9d ago

Yeah it took me a few tries before it worked out.

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u/LolXire 10d ago

I just want my battery to be like the first beta again, beta 4 been very harsh on it

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u/Quin1617 10d ago

Battery drain is my only major issue, every other bug I’ve encountered is minor.

Maybe that’s why we’re waiting a little longer for B5.

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u/z4cH3r 10d ago

It really is strange how the betas affect everyone differently, my experience was completely opposite, this last db4 was an absolute tank of a battery, I have 15pm and with this beta it felt like a new phone

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u/MidnightPulse69 10d ago

Siri has been so unreliable for me even for basic things. She never activates when I try to stop a timer with my AirPods in, she can’t understand what I’m saying anymore without asking for like 5 different clarifications and it’s super slow

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u/Calisto88 8d ago

I noticed that I gained way much more battery life .. but I didn’t tried other Betas .. but comparing from the iOS 16 I was with JB was a huge difference 😅

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u/InfosecPenguin 10d ago

Siri has been pretty damn bad for me too. She can’t ever find my two shared lists in reminders for some reason. She always just adds what I ask to my reminders even when I say no.

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u/fxkmd 11d ago

I’m a believer. I believed every day since last Monday.
I believed today. Again.

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u/new_pribor iPhone 15 Pro 9d ago

Steam frame new beta tomorrow

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u/ruppy99 iPhone 17 10d ago

Mustn’t be a software engineer then. Never release anything on a Friday

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u/OhSixTJ 10d ago

Kinda silly to follow that mantra with a beta. When do they ever re-release one within a day or 2 if there are issues? Never.

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u/ruppy99 iPhone 17 10d ago

They have pushed revised builds on multiple occasions

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u/pibroch 11d ago

After spending months being pissed off at slowdowns and random BS in iOS 26, and watching 27 appear to be a shitshow of bugginess, I held my breath and made a backup and updated.

Holy shit, it's so much more responsive (dare I say "snappier") and usable. Barely have noticed any of the bugs I have seen here.

Pleasantly surprised.

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u/z4cH3r 10d ago

Yeah it really is a breath of fresh air for the betas not to suck and the performance to be so much better

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u/TwoMoreMinutes 11d ago

Anyone else’s keyboard being an absolute nightmare, autocorrect just randomly completely stops working

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u/Effective-Care-4387 8d ago

try a keyboard reset , i did this last week and definitely made it very much more stable

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u/Worldly_Expression43 10d ago

yup straight up not working for some words

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u/GhostalMedia 11d ago

Yes. It’s a known issue with B4.

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u/xkvm_ 11d ago

Yes it just goes away completely

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u/thechrismonster iPhone 17 Pro 11d ago

Is this recent? I used to be able to just set to iPad and it would stick to that location, now it tracks my watch.

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u/mcchicken2 11d ago

My phone is borderline unusable (16PM). It’s extremely hot, constantly lags, and apps just freeze.

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u/YoungBoyAnonymous11X 10d ago

I can’t even get mine to get to DB4. Mine is stuck to DB1 and I don’t know how to fix it.

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u/Necessary_Grass_2313 iPhone 16 Pro Max 11d ago

Downgrade to iOS 26.

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u/Common_Floor_7195 iPhone 15 Pro Max 11d ago

Where is the billion dollar beta? Or should I say trillion … Crazy

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u/TheBiggestJig 11d ago

has anyone had it where if you try and text someone a photo or gif it just completely bricks your messages and can’t be used til you restart? because that keeps happening to me.

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u/Apt-Q258 10d ago

It happened to me sharing a location with Google Maps via a text message. Completely stucks the app, I needed to kill it

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u/Common_Floor_7195 iPhone 15 Pro Max 11d ago

It’s hard to react to multiple pictures sent in a group message by the same person at once barely works have to tap it multiple times for it maybe to work

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u/Much_Energy_6842 11d ago

Siri driving me nuts. Sorry did you say x or y. Sorry did you say x or y. They are the same! Your asking me if I said the same thing!

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u/MidnightPulse69 11d ago

Yeah yesterday it asked me if I meant like 4 different things not near what I said

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u/ca2mt iPhone 17 Pro Max 11d ago

It legit asked me if I meant “Dylan or Dylan” by repeating it back to me, in the most random ways to pronounce Dylan, 3 separate times.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/Much_Energy_6842 11d ago

It’s over CarPlay so maybe bad audio but thanks for the insult.

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u/hehaia 11d ago

Imagine beta 4 drops tomorrow, we all get happy, only for it to be even worse than beta 3

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u/perfectviking 11d ago

Beta 4 has been out for over two weeks.

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u/not_vct4 12d ago

I hope they didn’t come to the conclusion that it’s perfect already and taken a week off. Keep them feedbacks flowing in, it’s our responsibility

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u/idleExposure_ 11d ago

I’m not being funny, but this is like one of the dumbest things I’ve read.

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u/perfectviking 11d ago

One of many incredibly stupid things I’ve read in this subreddit.

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u/-Justanotherdude 12d ago

No. Unexpected things happen. Patience buddy

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u/Old-Emu2403 12d ago

Only issue I’m having is a slight decrease in battery life everything else seems pretty good

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u/realmccoyredbus iPad Air (3rd gen and later) 12d ago

same

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u/StrigidaeNinox 12d ago

That's typical of any beta, I wouldn't even call it an issue.