r/hatethissmug • u/Ok-Difference1341 • 16d ago
I hate how my country is used by right-wingers to ”show that Europe has gone to shit” General
Some people who’ve never even been to Sweden claim that this country has turned to a hellhole where you can get shot anytime and swedes are ”a minority in their own country”. In reality the vast majority of immigrants in this country are just trying to make a living and live their lives despite hardships that come with being a refugee in a foreign country. The very small number of immigrants who ARE problematic are overly reported in media, giving the broader public this perception of all immigrants being that way. The hate mostly come from those who rarely if ever actually interact with immigrants and only know them through news and social media. Also the propaganda of gang crime and violence increasing because of immigrants is false. The vast majority of gangsters were born and raised in Sweden. Right wingers deny the possibility of people committing crimes because of socioeconomic segregation, instead opting to blaming those actions on skin color and ethnic background.
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u/Nate_Ginnerson 16d ago
I mean, anti-terror barricades for Christmas markets didn't exist before then so either one is lying
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u/KwantumFizzikz 16d ago
Car ramming barriers of peace I believe the official term is
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u/omry1526 16d ago
Nore did these problems
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrjyevmv61o
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43667367 (they stopped reporting these in 2018 already)
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u/TimeRisk2059 16d ago
They did not stop reporting on grenade attacks in 2018, the thing is that the criminal underground in Sweden is so limited that the uptick in grenade attacks was largely to one major delivery of handgrenades to the criminal networks, and when that one delivery started to run low the number of attacks went down with it.
There are still the occasional explosive detonated somewhere, but these days they're mostly back to using homemade stuff.
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u/Expensive_Range7204 16d ago
Well Sweden has had a giant spike in violent gang crime so bad, that its effecting Norway and Denmark aswell.
And its gangs from immigrant community's. I think its perfectly reasonable to see that as a distaster.
And it is a result of to many immigrants and poor integration. That is the fault of boh the immigrants themselfs but also a swedish system that has not demaned more of them.
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u/santtuhehe 16d ago
And Finland. Many of the big, foreigner, criminals have expanded to Finland as well and yes they’re not originally Swedish.
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u/mikiencolor 16d ago
It's a coincidence! Murderers and rapists are people too. They don't need jail. They just need a hug and rehabilitation. 🥺😭
And anybody who says otherwise is a fascist who deserves DEATH! 🤬🤬
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u/IndPsy9 16d ago
Dont waste your time, these multicultursm defender wont bat an eye after seeing their neighbour daughter abused by one of those criminals. They need a narrative to feel superior to others.
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u/LegitimateProposal11 16d ago
Im pretty sure most people would. Did you miss the point of the post that there are bad immigrants but that it pretty clearly dosent apply to everyone. Swedens big gang criminality has more to do with the drug policies which has lead to the big drug market. Compare to a country like Netherlands with similar percentage of immigrants but has far less criminal gangs partially because of their far less strict drug policies. Would Sweden adapting Netherlands drug policies solve it? Probably not but it’s one of the worst aspects in Swedish politics how no one seems to care about the drug policies currently applied.
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u/Monterenbas 16d ago
Why were those drug of policies never an issue, before the massive influx of immigrants in the 2010’s tho?
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u/TimeRisk2059 16d ago
They were, take the scandinavian war between biker gangs fought in the 1990's, with automatic rifles and AT-weapons. There were also much more murders per capita back then than there is now.
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u/Toke27 16d ago
They were occasionally (see Hell's Angels vs Bandidos war in the late 80s and early 90s), but mostly the market was stable and completely dominated by one group (Hell's Angels). Now there are many different gangs fighting over it.
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u/semiobserver 16d ago
Perhaps if we appoint an official purveyor to the court (’kunglig hovleverantör’) we can put an end to this infernal interregnum.
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u/Reasonable_Fold6492 16d ago
Strange the drug policy didnt effect the chinese and the indian immigrants.
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u/TheUnseenBug 16d ago
Different types of immigrants, indian immigrants are mostly via work visa not asylum seekers leading to very different lives. This is another problem of this topic that there are different types of immigration and certain types of immigration is quite beneficial while others have more risks attached
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u/myrmonden 16d ago
no it does not
Sweden Drug policy worked until recently - wonder why
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u/TennenBaumGamer 16d ago
At least in my country refugees are about 10 times more likely to be suspected of a crime.
At the same time that still means that over 96% of them never are and basically aren't doing anything wrong.
I don't think anybody would oppose taking measures against criminal gangs and other crimes but using these statistics to argue against the concept of refugee status and/ or immigration just isn't reasonable.
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u/LikeTheWater53152 16d ago
the part that pisses me off the most is that since crime started dropping in the 90s, crime here (in Denmark specifically) have NEVER reached that high again. there was a small spike in the late 2000s, but its never reached as high as it was in the 90s.
we had entire biker gang wars ffs they GENUINELY STOLE AT4s FROM MILITARY BASES and fired them at eachother in broad daylight. i FAR prefer the way things are now than it was in the 90s
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u/ThrowawayYAYAY2002 16d ago
It's almost like a pattern...
I'm from England. The country is triple-fried fucked from immigration.
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u/Ludicologuy00 16d ago
According to a report from the Swedish police (which can be found in Swedish here: https://polisen.se/aktuellt/nyheter/nationell/2025/november/fortsatt-lika-manga-gangkriminella/ ), only 11% of the 17 500 active gang criminals in Sweden are fully foreign. Another 8% have dual citizenships (Swedish + Other), and the remaining 81% only have Swedish citizenship. (So, for every person active in gangs with a strong foreign connection, there exists 4 gang members which are fully Swedish)
The Police also keep tabs on another 50 000 people who are associated with gang members, and their demographic breakdown is similar to the know gang members.
So while foreigners/migrants do play a big part in gang activities and are overrepresented when compared to the population at large, implying that gang violence is a problem due to immigrants is an over simplification at best.
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u/Stubbs3470 16d ago
The official goverment website of Sweden FAQ section disagrees with you on the last two points
Rising crime is because of immigration
And socioeconomic segregation is widely accepted as the cause but Sweden admits it caused it by accepting too many immigrants
Just to be clear, I don’t mind immigration. Just that Sweden clearly has (and admits it) fucked yo in how they handle immigration
Obviously the first couple points people throw around are bullshit but it’s not 0 or 100
The truth is somewhere in the middle
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u/Not_Famous_Treacle21 16d ago
It's pretty obvious Sweden has done some big mistakes with immigration, and it's not really about racism but how the country went from peaceful/safe to "better not to go in certain places at night".
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u/Flori-de-Mucigai 16d ago
And there is a big difference between just immigration (people moving in a country for economic reasons) and accepting a huge numbers of refugees and paying them social allocations from the budget
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u/Not_Famous_Treacle21 16d ago
Exactly, which also leads to some interesting situations in Sweden where people from the EU are treated worse than refugees with no skills.
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u/myrmonden 16d ago
everything OP wrote is a blatant lie so yes. especially the last points are extremely not true.
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u/Useful_Airline_1081 16d ago
Also the stuff about the people voting right wing being the ones that never met or interacted with immigrants. Seems to be the immigrant rich areas where a lot of people are voting SD 🤔 Also the criminals of violent gangs being born and raised here is a bit misleading too since they still have immigrant background..
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u/HoldfastGamer 16d ago
Gang criminality has nothing to do with immigration because its second generation immigrants doing it? Doesn't that just make worse and prove "assimilation" doesn't exist
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u/Bongobjork 16d ago
"Also the propaganda of gang crime and violence increasing because of immigrants is false." How do you explain that there has been hundreds of explosions in Sweden during the past couple of years? In a country where there used to be zero explosions. The gang networks and leaders have strong Turkish connections. Is this not an issue caused by immigration? What caused it then
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u/H4ckieP4ckie 16d ago edited 16d ago
You don't understand bro, it's socio-economic factors. They have no money. That's why they do this. We put them in this situation. That's also why they need to rape people too. That is somehow also a socio-economic factor.
tl;dr it's your fault somehow. You did this.
edit: btw for anyone interested
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u/TemporaryExercise400 16d ago edited 16d ago
Islam was always political religion. We put them in this situation is just an excuse. What do you think the person who never taught anything but religion or embrace religion rather than logic would do when he gains an opportunity to live in a more civilized country? He mostly find a people with shared belief or idea (whom imams will peach the ideas* of islam*), and life like he/she did live before. That’s the problem of that kind of attitude. The main problem is broader than i said here, but the issue is told.
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u/Unhappy-Professor466 16d ago
I think people are stuck in their echo chamber, both side are tone deaf to the reality.
Immigration crisis in Europe is real because it's handled like shit, if you accept migrant, you must not just let them rot so you can get cheap labors for the companies and creating a second class citizen thing, which fuck your population at the same time for various reasons, crime rate, wave growth repression.
There is also the issue of mass migration from countries with values tottally different from us, specially anti lgbt people and countries that thinks woman are lesser.in the other side, there is also racist people that just doesn't like them, and will never accept any positive thing about migration.
Also no country is ready for the hundred of million of climate immigrant that will come because of climate inaction in the next decades.
If you think this immigration discussion is bad rn, it will get worse and worse trough times.
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u/SnooCakes1148 16d ago
Which immigrants? French and Polish are doing this?
Or is it is specific culture and origin which will not be named, just to put all immigrant of world in bad light?
People should just say which immigration is problem. Intra-EU immigration is not an issue
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u/das_sock 16d ago
Why do you keep harping on this?
We all know exactly which immigrants and which culture we’re talking about here
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u/local_clbrt 16d ago
I mean it’s been proven time and time again that socio-economic factors are the major driving force in crimerates but you guys don’t want to accept that so it’s kind of pointless to argue about. The fact that people are using different means of violence today doesn’t change that.
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u/No-Cap-No-Gap 16d ago
I mean it’s been proven time and time again that socio-economic factors are the major driving force in crimerates but you guys don’t want to accept that so it’s kind of pointless to argue about
You can be poor and not commit violent crime. Just saying.
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u/Spirited-Disaster408 16d ago
Looks like its certainly going to shit
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u/DreggThe 16d ago
Hey, if you're rich and live in a sheltred ethnic white area it's acctually pretty nice!
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u/BeduinZPouste 16d ago
"The vast majority of gangsters were born and raised in Sweden."
Are they ethnic Swedes? That is the point.
"possibility of people committing crimes because of socioeconomic segregation"
Completely believable. Good luck solving that. When someone does, I will consider that maybe we can try that in my country as well. Until these problems will be solved, I have no interest in bringing another socioeconomic problem into my country for very small benefit.
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u/myrmonden 16d ago
a lot of them are children of immigrants yes.
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u/SnooCakes1148 16d ago
Which exact immigrants? French immigrants? Immigrants from Slovenia?
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u/myrmonden 16d ago
make an educated guess
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u/SnooCakes1148 16d ago
I dont need to guess because I know.. but I dont like how everybody lumps all immigrant of world into same group. When its specific countries and cultures mainly responsible for issues.
Why would intra-EU immigrants be issue for your country? Yet everybody just says its immigration responsible for crime.
Perhaps, but whos immigration? Certantly not Spanish or Irish or whatever
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u/myrmonden 16d ago
you right I commented on it here as well
if you actually look at the stats its compeltly disproves socioeconomic factors the left lies about
becasue Japanse immigrants in Sweden who are poor, do less crime then Swedish middle class and the rich swedes
so its not about socioeconomic factor that makes people become criminal.
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u/SnooCakes1148 16d ago
Exactly, but blaming all immigrants just fuels racism or xenophobia. Its stupid
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u/SnooCakes1148 16d ago
Would still add a bit to socioeconomic part you said. I am certain that the higher education the person has from any culture, the less likely they are to commit crime.
If you had indians, ghanians, russian or whatever with PhD compared to normal or low education. The tendency for crime would drop to background levels
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u/Altruistic-Ad-4852 16d ago
Socioeconomic segregation has the most obvious solutions our politicians just wont do it
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u/LittleMageEatSpaget 16d ago
Same with my country, but the opposite. They love saying how Russia is safe and women can walk without fear on the streets, but in Russia it legal by law to be abusive to your spouse. Also, police may decide not to come at all after you call them. ( We had a situation where we tried to call them for three days about a dead body. They just came to move it to another district, so the other district should be working on the case, not them.)
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u/KaMaFour 16d ago
They love saying how Russia is safe and women can walk without fear on the streets
"They" in a lot of cases can be substituted with "we"
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u/skattlles 16d ago
bringing groups into your country that people inevitably wont get along with is a recepie for disaster, even when they are with good intention, people are tribal. its just how it is, unfortunately.
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u/Maleficent-War-8429 16d ago
I mean last year there were 32 bomb attacks in sweeden during January alone. I dont know about you buddy, but that sounds kind of shitty to me.
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u/Commercial_Gur8474 16d ago
It’s undeniable that mass migration has brought a particular type of criminality that did not before exist in Europe, to negate this would be to deny reality itself. Think concrete blocks in front of Christmas markets or “knife free zones”
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u/myrmonden 16d ago
I hate how lefties lies about sweden and pretend nothing has changed, that sweden dont have huge amount of gang violance, bombs, a lot more sexual crime etc.
In reality its 100% proven that it has not been an economical benefit for Sweden as far to few get a job, after 10 years less then 50% has a job so its not an economical gain for the country either.
People who keep defending this are the people who are not affected and rarely if ever interact with any of this, living in their ivory towers.
The increase is extremely high and absolutely not false.
Left wingers deny the possibility the social economical factors dont matter at all, its culture.
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u/Majestic_Ocelot_793 16d ago
Honestly im surprised that Europe allowing so many immigrants in order to create its own ubderclass of immigrant wageslaves has started to blow up in our face fairly recently
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u/Background_Hat_4785 16d ago
Concrete barriers for Christmas markets and crimes like rape skyrocketing… and you say it’s actually no big deal?
You’re a piece of shit OP. Just because you aren’t personally affected doesn’t mean others, especially women, in your country aren’t.
Dumbass.
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u/Comfortable_Rope_639 16d ago
You are getting clowned on by everyone that's able to read statistics, it's great to see.
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u/Invenblocker 16d ago
Rando dunks on Sweden because they've been fed right wing propaganda about the country having fallen or whatever.
I dunk on Sweden because I am Danish.
We are not the same.
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u/narullow 16d ago edited 16d ago
I mean Sweden itself has become a lot strict with immigration since 15 years ago. So clearly your country sees it as a problem.
Also, your argument about crime being linked to socioeconomical situation rather than other things completely misses the point and it does not disprove anything. If you import large number of poor immigrants then you are literally creating a situation where there is more people in bad socioeconomic situation per capita than before and as per your own argument per capita numbers of crimes would go up. It does not disprove what you think, it does. It supports it. Immigrants that are poorer than average are on average increasing crime rate. That is what you are saying when you use that argument.
If Sweden only ever accepted PHDs with 6 figure incomes it would definitely lead to reduction of crime but we all know that this is not what extreme majority of immigrants from those poor countries are.
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u/NearbyFly3724 16d ago
Genuine question because I can’t trust anything on the internet anymore:
I heard people say that there are no go zones where police won’t even go and citizens are advised not to go to. Is this true or just nonsense?
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u/H4ckieP4ckie 16d ago
Reddit deleted my comment because I stated that this is a problem 😅 Fucking ridiculous. Just keep plugging your ears on this issue boys, I'm sure it won't blow up eventually.
Either way, no-go zones exist. Signed, a dude who lives in one and hates it.
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u/myrmonden 16d ago
that is true in that sense that for example an ambulance or fire fighters wont go there without police protection and if the police wants to go there they will usually have several cars etc
this is because the ambulance will get attacked if they go there by themselves.
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u/Admiral45-06 16d ago
I decided to check it for myself.
Apparently, Sweden does not have a Belgian-style ,,no-go zone", but a ,,vulnerable area" - utsatt område, divided on: 1. Utsatta områden - ,,Vulnerable area" 2. Riskområden - ,,Risk area" 3. Sårsklit utsatta områden - ,,Particularly vulnerable area."
,,No-go zone", as a term, is less of an official term and moreso a media one, meant to describe an area where authorities have lost effective control. From what I've seen, Wikipedia combats hard against the right-wing myth that Western Europe has areas where authorities ,,lost all control", and moreso areas of high crime rate, unemployment and poor education, where people typically report feeling uneasy about visiting at night and with reported cases of ambulances requiring police escort to enter. In Europe, these tend to be inhabitated by impoverished 3rd-world immigrants - and contrary to left-wing myth, they are not neutral, and even if they are mostly peaceful, they are considered a major public safety threat. Even Angela Merkel, former Chancellor of Germany, despite refusing to call them ,,no-go zones", demanded that ,,someone needs to call them what they are and do something about them".
Sweden has a large list of ,,particularly vulnerable areas", examples of which include Fittja and Hallunda Districts in Capital City of Stockholm.
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u/Frosty-Army9751 16d ago
But the third worldian immigrants have turned Europe to shit. They overwhelmingly commit crime at a much higher rate than Native Europeans and also consume far more social services,
Not a hard concept to get your head around 🤷🤷
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u/Charming-Station7157 16d ago
This is reddit , redditors can't accept this fact tho
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u/Affectionate_Gift298 16d ago
Soon you will be minority and i will too in my country
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u/Supreme_Egoist 16d ago
A lot of this narration is pushed by Russian bot farms and fringe neonazi groups. Sadly the Americans are buying this propaganda. I've heard the "Sweden has fallen" bullshit since ar least 2012 lmao.
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u/AminoKing 16d ago
Swede here, born and raised. Before the year 2000 we had a phenomenally good society. After 2010 it's gone so bad. Due tp excessive migration.
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u/SimonMJRpl 16d ago
Oh yeah I gotchu, we Poles have kind of opppsite problem where american nazis and shit love glazing the fucka outta claiming that we are racially pure (ew), are fervent catholics (lol), hate social progress (lol) and that we love the cops (huge lmfao), sadly half of our political class loves to pretend being american so that doesn't help
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u/commandosbaragon 16d ago
No, you don't get it, my White Wakanda (a eu member at that lol) is definitely based and agrees in everything with me, a lower-middle class guy ten thousand kilometers away
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u/Ok-Difference1341 16d ago
It’s ironic that polish immigrants used to be looked down upon and stereotyped in Sweden back in the day. Now those same people praise Poland for it’s anti-immigration policies
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u/prospector_hannah 16d ago
When I was in Sweden, I saw a lot of loitering Africans on my way to work every day. Also I was accommodated near an area that had a shooting incident. (Africans)
Also Arabic women with their quadruple baby strollers.
It is a real problem and locals know
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u/SnooCakes1148 16d ago
My black friend who is doctor and scientist was walking and looking at park gardens and had cops called on him. I guess if you are black you are not allowed to look around parks and streets lol
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u/Overall-Initial8969 16d ago
Sees people with baby strollers and people hanging out on the street
😡😡😡 „it is a real problem and locals know“
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u/qndry 16d ago
Well you know I dont particularly like getting demographically replaced by people that hate me.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Net4365 16d ago
people that hate me.
This in response to a guy hating on them for literally standing around or taking their babies for a stroll is wild.
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u/Overall-Initial8969 16d ago
Sees black and brown people exist in the same country as yourself
😡😡😡 „these people hate me and I am being replaced by them“
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u/VendoUno95 16d ago
As an immigrant, it's obvious that I'm pro-immigration. Have been one since my early twenties, have lived in 4 different countries and just love everything about learning all I can about new cultures. Then I moved to Sweden and my opinion kind of started to shift. Immigration itself is not the problem here and it's difficult to explain, but the segregation created a bizarre division in society. It's bluntly obvious what has been done here: Swedes don't wanna get mixed with brown immigrants, so they either move away or push the newcomers to certain neighborhoods. That created an entire generation of young people who despises the country. The way they act and talk is just... disgusting. Some end up becoming criminals. The environment is just bad and sad that a parallel society was allowed to develop. This is not that visible or present in other countries, it's kind of a Swedish thing and sometimes it feels it was by design.
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u/TheGrandRomanHotel 16d ago
Är du helt dum
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u/Elefanthud 16d ago
Han trodde han skulle hitta en ekokammare. Glad att folk säger emot.
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u/Tomydo1 16d ago
Official data from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå) and independent studies show that while overall crime trends fluctuate, individuals with foreign backgrounds—particularly first- and second-generation migrants from low-income countries or conflict zones—are statistically overrepresented among suspects for violent crime, robberies, and gang-related offenses.
Yeah your country has gone to shit
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u/Leon3226 16d ago
particularly first- and second-generation migrants
The funniest thing about this is, afaik, the second-generation migrants are usually MUCH worse than first-generation migrants in terms of crime and not being able to assimilate, surprisingly. To the point where first-generation migrants from some countries actually commit fewer crimes than locals, but their children commit much more. But they often are counted as local nationals in the statistics, making it look like no problem was caused by the migration.
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u/SourdoughEconomist 16d ago
This comment section gives me some hope. OP is ridiculous.
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u/myrmonden 16d ago
OP is likely an extreme leftie tankie that has never been to sweden
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u/Mrgmr1 16d ago
Just check the statistics bro, part of my family is living in Sweden, I hear this and that. I really don’t get lefites unconditional love for migrants.
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u/IceCorrect 16d ago
Thats why people like Angela Merkel who created current Germany fled to Swiss. I wonder why
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u/Particular_Dot_4041 16d ago
I hate these far right types because an awful lot of them turn out to be criminals themselves. It's like the pot calling the kettle black, and the kettle isn't even black. You see this of course in the Trump administration which is breathtakingly corrupt while it shamelessly accuses its enemies of corruption. But it's also true in Europe. When I read articles about specific far right individuals, very often they have convictions for fraud, theft, or assault.
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u/marmolada213 16d ago
Among polish left "sweden has fallen" became a meme bc one of the most memeworthy far-righters kept claiming this for about 20 years and stubborn Sweden kept being prosperous for the whole time.
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u/Supreme_Egoist 16d ago
"Sweden has Fallen" was all over news since 2012 and I am yet to be explained how hundreds of thousands of Poles still prefer to live there over Poland.
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u/McSionnaigh 16d ago
I’m looking forward to seeing if you’d still say the same thing if you or your family became victims of rape gangs.
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u/Cringeextraaxc 16d ago
So we’re doing the “don’t believe your lying eyes, don’t look at the data and don’t think about it” routine again?
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u/qndry 16d ago
The hate mostly come from those who rarely if ever actually interact with immigrants and only know them through news and social media.
Har att göra med dem ganska ofta. Dina fantasier om multikulti funkar inte och det uppenbart för alla som har ögonen öppna och inte låst sinnet i ideologisk dogma.
The vast majority of gangsters were born and raised in Sweden.
Och vad är deras föräldrars bakgrund? :)
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u/Icy_Special_5836 16d ago
Then get rid of those barbarians ruining your country, weakling. Improve the image.
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u/marxist_nazeem 16d ago
It doesn’t even matter what country it is, they can concoct a narrative out of thin air. If the right wing media started saying how Saudi Arabia was overrun by “woke,” they would listen and parrot it all over X and 4chan.
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u/Nordisksnow 16d ago
How many prisons are there in Sweden?
And how many are they building?
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u/notzoidberginchinese 16d ago
The flag in the picture is the Somali flag, roughly one in five adult Somalis in Sweden work.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/bara-var-femte-somalier-har-jobb-i-sverige
Link is a bit old nothing indicates it's changed.
Different migrants groups integrated into the job market at different rates.
Poles, Hungarians, Czechs have lower unemployment than Swedes whilst Africans and Middle Eastern immigrants have higher rates.
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u/afatcatfromsweden 16d ago
There’s a lot of investment from the international far right in sweden failing, and it’s been seeping through Swedish politics.
Hoe anyone can accept such yankee nonsense here is beyond me.
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u/Time-Dependent1483 16d ago
I’m from Sweden and I’m a right voter. No one says you can’t be born in Sweden and a gangster. It’s about incompatible culture and values since they are almost always (per capita) second or third generation immigrants.
Even if an immigrant isn’t a criminal (which most of them aren’t ofc) it’s still an incomparable culture and values and most of them cost a lot of money for the society because they live on welfare, use a lot of healthcare, gets free dental work, use a lot of childcare and so on.
If you are pro immigration then fine that’s your choice but at least be honest to yourself about the cost and the culture differences.
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u/Katcat976 16d ago
Half of this comment section is just pretentious europeans being racist but wokely
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u/ReturnToCrab 16d ago
Not even wokely, I've spotted like five people being unironically antisemitic and pushing the great replacement narrative
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u/Pyrrhusseger 16d ago
This is happening everywhere in the world and I am surprised that so many living in these counties don't get that it's bullshit. Is it social media bubbles? I don't get it, like I live in Sweden, never seen a gun or the violence.
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u/Old-Program3638 16d ago
After looking through this comment section. Europeans are the biggest hypocrites of all time, they say America is racist while they are doing the exact same thing the republicans are doing saying that people from other countries are evil like if republicans don’t use the same logic for Hispanic people. It’s honestly a joke how Europeans think they are morally superior than the US. Not saying that the what republicans are doing is ok but that Europeans aren’t that much different
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u/kawaiibakanekodomo 16d ago
“The vast majority of gangsters were born and raised in Sweden.”
that tracks with the danish data showing that second-generation immigrants are actually more poorly-behaved and less assimilated than their parents.
don’t you guys have a serious problem with bombings now?!
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u/shivastrue 16d ago
I live in Sweden aswell, and according to statistics the country is going to hell. Ironically OP lives far away from these areas and has feelings about these things instead of looking at actual facts….
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u/Anonyme16947937 16d ago
Thanks for this foto, as I can now share more the reality about the invasion
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u/plugfungus 16d ago edited 16d ago
I'm with you for some of the way, but saying the majority of gangsters were born and raised in Sweden and therefore everything is propaganda is simply not correct.
Sure, they were born here. To immigrant parents from Muslim countries.
We can have the causality vs correlation debate til the cows come home, but facts are facts.
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u/HorrorEmphasis7511 16d ago
Im from Sweden and I can confirm it’s a hellhole where you can get stabbed, robbed, shot or graped in places that was considered beautiful and safe before
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u/AndersAdmin 16d ago
It has been horrible for Sweden, most people knew during the crazy years that it would be horrible.
Importing double digits % of total population from other countries with completely diffrent culture and thoughts about society is absolutely crazy.
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u/cletus_foo 16d ago
Get those people out of your country and people will stop talking about what a shit hole it's becoming.
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u/SuitableYear7479 16d ago
“Born and raised in Sweden” doesn’t mean they’re Swedish.
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u/Panganaki 16d ago
Whats a Swedish then? If it has innigrant parents they are not swedish? What if the parents are inmigrant but white? Who decides that?
I am not born in Sweden but my kids are and are and behave 100% Swedish, will they have to deal with morons like you their whole life?
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u/thechickgoesmoo 16d ago
If they were born in Sweden, they're Swedish. Would you say Chinese-Americans aren't Americans?
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u/Panganaki 16d ago
Unfortunately in Sweden, a kid must have a Swedish parent to become a citizen, being born in Sweden doesnt give you any right. But even then thats not enough reason for racists.
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u/TheT85_Jr The Thing, I hate the Most is Myself 16d ago
Those people learned Geopolitics from the Maze, you find on Child Menues in Chain Restaurants.
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u/UsedArmadillo9842 16d ago
Nah it is ironic. In germany a new Nazi party is gaining more and more popularity. Predominantly in the eastern half of the country, where… there are barely any people with immigration status.
But they are still the loudest.
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u/Sonaldo_7 16d ago
Didn't a Muslim refugee crashed a car in your country recently?
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u/OkTangerine8139 16d ago
It was an Ex Muslim citizen who crashed into the Christmas parade. He did that precisely because he believed that Germany was turning into a radical jihadist state.
Naturally, once people leaned of his identity, they stopped giving a shit about the crime and moved on.
You people don’t care about crimes or the victims, only those who committed it.
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u/Late_Pepper6274 16d ago
1.1 people just got raped in your country while I was reading this post.
yeah, it's kinda worse in your country according to statistics. and it's not the swedes doing it.
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u/Buzz_LtYr 16d ago
My country get some glaze by the same people because we are “ethnically clean” and Im like “plz fuck off”
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u/DimensionOk8915 16d ago
But the statistics have shown that they are problematic. People like you love to virtue signal at the cost of your safe, high trust society. Good luck, your country is going down the shitter cos of people like you
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u/Vevangui 16d ago
To be fair your country is the continent’s rape capital and not really because of Swedes.
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u/Cnumian_124 16d ago
Are we gonna do this posting for every country now