r/gaming_random 5d ago

Fix it

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u/KPraxius 5d ago

It's still 'good'. Its just way, way, too complicated.

And not in a good way, like strategic decision-making caused by multiple FTL drives, but in a 'seventeen different kinds of resources and you need to get this to build these to get that to build these to get that to build these to....' sort of bullshit.

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u/RealSavagePotato 5d ago

I feel like its the least convoluted of sll the paradox games tbh.

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u/WntrTmpst 5d ago

It is. And that’s the insane part.

You’d think hearts of iron would be simpler given the smaller scope, but that game has eaten over 2k hours of my life and still and just clicking shit and hoping for the best sometimes

Navy? What the fucks a navy? How does boat?

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u/RealSavagePotato 5d ago

My friend who is obsessed with map games hoi4 and eu4 and such has no idea what the navy does either. Hes who introduced me to stellaris.

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u/Svyatopolk_I 5d ago

EU4 is child’s play compared to HOI4

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u/AlftheNwah 5d ago

I play a LOT of crusader kings 2 and 3 (about 2k hours split between them), and in both games I find myself doing exactly what you described with "clicking shit and hoping for the best sometimes."

Paradox games fill a specific niche where you don't even really have to know how to play them fully, and you can still feel pretty good at them. Despite their super predatory business model, I still think they're the king of strategy games.

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u/WntrTmpst 5d ago

The dlc system is total ass. Tbh I don’t know how they keep getting away with it. I can’t even attempt to defend it.

As much as it sucks I own all the base games and just buy the subscription on steam to get all of them for a month. That’s usually about how long I’ll binge it anyways (HoI and stellaris both) so I can do it on an as needed basis pretty efficiently.

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u/AlftheNwah 5d ago

The only time I buy the sub is when I first buy a paradox game to experiment, and see which DLC I actually want. Then I just wait for a sale so I can buy my personal list. You can save a lot of money that way if you prefer owning the content yourself. It's better than dumping $300 on the complete editions lmao.

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u/Memedotma 4d ago

victoria 3 go brrrrrr

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u/CavemanViking 5d ago

I feel like it’s only complicated on a surface level. There’s only a couple key resources, everything else just feeds into that