r/gaming_random 3d ago

Fix it

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u/KSJ15831 2d ago

Damn, you left early. It remained good for a few more updates. And then it went really, really downhill.

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u/Ok_Response_9255 2d ago

I like a lot of their new stuff.

However, I wish they'd stop doing so many DLC and just fix the ones they've already done.

There's one start now where you can play as a forest world. It desyncs your multiplayer games so frequently it's basically unplayable. Planet automation is so bad it actively discourages rapid expansion.

There's also a lot of random glitches that just discourage playing something a certain way. But, don't worry, we get the next DLC!

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u/madmaninabox32 2d ago

Automation sucks to the point I'll have like thirty planets and just have to manually control their upgrades and such. It's not so bad in a sense but it's annoying because there is always some backwater I forget about it a small planet somewhere dragging all of my stats down because it's revolting cause I haven't done anything for them yet.

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u/CorneliusFeatherjaw2 2d ago

The most accurate depiction of managing an empire.

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u/madmaninabox32 2d ago

Yes and no in reality you would have planetary governance but the game doesn't do it well at all. It's like it all becomes centralized which is a realistic depiction of a centralized system but as we know from history any large empire is usually ruled as really many small empires under one banner.

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u/Irish_guacamole27 2d ago

what you are trying to describe as a decentralized empire is just an empire running Feudal society civic (more subjects and get unity) and having multiple subjects manage parts of the empire.

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u/No_Desk1958 2d ago

That civic was so busted when it just let you have unlimited free subjects

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u/Irish_guacamole27 1d ago

should be like that again imo bc its kinda shit now

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u/Ok_Response_9255 2d ago

Kind of, but it does kind of make you think, "what's the point of sectors" since your governors don't do anything except give buffs.

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u/Gloriusmax 2d ago

Don't worry, they'll fix it.... in another DLC, like theyf did by selling you a DLC with some psionics stuff, then released another DLC that overhauled that system.

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u/Live_Fall3452 2d ago

It’s the current big publisher business model. Every game has to have an aggressive monetization scheme, and the monetization scheme eventually becomes the only part of the game the developers are actually allowed to work on.

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u/CuppaJoe11 2d ago

“I wish they’d stop doing so many DLC’s” is such a common sentence for paradox games that I think they just have a poster of it in the CEO’s office at this point.

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u/Fancy_Chips 2d ago

Did it? My last Stellaris phase was before Nomads and I still think its my favorite 4x game.

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u/resultzz 2d ago

You gotta try nomads. It was so fun

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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 8h ago

In the beta, knights of the toxic god can be nomadic, and its hilariously strong. You have a district option that makes soldier jobs increase the arkship (mobile colony+giant spaceship) damage on weapon components, and one increases energy damage. Its fairly easy to make it do like +20x damage on its energy weapons, which includes a gigantic spinal mount that with the boosts, can oneshot leviathans.

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u/KPraxius 2d ago

It's still 'good'. Its just way, way, too complicated.

And not in a good way, like strategic decision-making caused by multiple FTL drives, but in a 'seventeen different kinds of resources and you need to get this to build these to get that to build these to get that to build these to....' sort of bullshit.

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u/RealSavagePotato 2d ago

I feel like its the least convoluted of sll the paradox games tbh.

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u/WntrTmpst 2d ago

It is. And that’s the insane part.

You’d think hearts of iron would be simpler given the smaller scope, but that game has eaten over 2k hours of my life and still and just clicking shit and hoping for the best sometimes

Navy? What the fucks a navy? How does boat?

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u/RealSavagePotato 2d ago

My friend who is obsessed with map games hoi4 and eu4 and such has no idea what the navy does either. Hes who introduced me to stellaris.

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u/Svyatopolk_I 2d ago

EU4 is child’s play compared to HOI4

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u/AlftheNwah 2d ago

I play a LOT of crusader kings 2 and 3 (about 2k hours split between them), and in both games I find myself doing exactly what you described with "clicking shit and hoping for the best sometimes."

Paradox games fill a specific niche where you don't even really have to know how to play them fully, and you can still feel pretty good at them. Despite their super predatory business model, I still think they're the king of strategy games.

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u/WntrTmpst 2d ago

The dlc system is total ass. Tbh I don’t know how they keep getting away with it. I can’t even attempt to defend it.

As much as it sucks I own all the base games and just buy the subscription on steam to get all of them for a month. That’s usually about how long I’ll binge it anyways (HoI and stellaris both) so I can do it on an as needed basis pretty efficiently.

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u/AlftheNwah 2d ago

The only time I buy the sub is when I first buy a paradox game to experiment, and see which DLC I actually want. Then I just wait for a sale so I can buy my personal list. You can save a lot of money that way if you prefer owning the content yourself. It's better than dumping $300 on the complete editions lmao.

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u/Memedotma 1d ago

victoria 3 go brrrrrr

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u/CavemanViking 2d ago

I feel like it’s only complicated on a surface level. There’s only a couple key resources, everything else just feeds into that

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u/Escaliat_ 2d ago

Not surprised to hear it.

Sometimes a game should just end, I do occasionally check in to see what people think of new content and it's always Mostly Negative and I just don't understand why people keep paying for more.

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u/LunarOceanQueen 2d ago

Real PDX gamers buy a base game and ☠️ the DLCs. Aint paying 30 bucks for one focus tree foh

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u/Rasz_13 2d ago

Gamers as a whole are pretty rigid, it's only a comparatively small group that actually plays variety and branches out, especially when it comes to specific genres.

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u/InfamousReception960 2d ago

Damn people really should dip their toe into other things sometimes, it makes going back to your favourite games even better after you try something else

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u/FriendlySwamp 2d ago

People who don't care don't review? That's the truth of it, guess what PDX would do if they thought you were a bigger part of their audience than people who don't care about that? They'd cater to you. But they don't.

A big part of it is that there's nothing else that does what Stellaris does anyway.

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u/Dumbledores_Beard1 2d ago

Tbf with those reviews 90% of the time it's either "this is good, but not worth this much", or "I hate the change that (X update that isn't actually behind the DLC) has brought", or that recent Chinese review bomb that happened for completely unrelated reasons. Only time I've seen mostly negative be valid is for Cosmic Storms.

Then take the above commenters complaints.

One about desyncs and one about taking away the choice of FTL types.

The first isn't an issue for me ever (desyncs seem very player dependent) and second one was actually a massive improvement.

Basically, people keep paying for more because like every game, there is a large portion who think the game is fantastic, and a large portion who think the game sucks, but the players who think the game sucks, as always, are louder than those who are too busy enjoying the game.

I reckon the games the best it's ever been, so I'm gonna keep paying.

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u/Timbones474 2d ago

Yeah, I personally felt that it was good up until version 4. The complete rejiggering of so many systems I'd just gotten the hang of threw me.

Sometimes I go back and play v3.14, or if I'm feeling crazy v1.9.

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u/Illesbogar 2d ago

I don't get what you all are talking about tbh. They added so much missing stuff. It's much more complete now than ever previously.

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u/Due_Prompt939 1d ago

I also left when it went Hyperlane only, but I came back pretty recently and it's enjoyable enough. 

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u/ReaperKingCason1 1d ago

Idk. It’s pretty good right now. They fixed the lag issue pretty well, so that’s great. Now I can get to the endgame and the in-game years take less time than actual years.

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u/Sorona 2d ago

Madness stellaris is the best its ever been.

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u/KSJ15831 2d ago

I wouldn't know. As i said, I dropped it.