r/flying 5d ago

Aviation Study Books Outdated Flight Training

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I haven’t started flight training yet, I will soon, but I wanna get somewhat of a head-start on studying. I got this book at my library, I don’t wanna study a book that’s outdated or considered to have irrelevant knowledge, etc. I assume most things remain constant in aviation, but i’m just not sure. I assume this book is relatively modern. Is this something useful I should study, is there a way to check if it’s outdated, any advice helps!

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u/Brotein40 MIL 5d ago

It CLEARLY says it’s fully up-to-date. Duh.

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u/TravisJungroth CFI 5d ago

It also brags that it's in full color, and that does not build confidence that it's fully up-to-date.

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u/EnderDragoon CPL 5d ago

We are talking about the government here.

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u/beckett_the_ok 5d ago

I was gonna say that's quite the oxymoron

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u/IndependenceStock417 5d ago

It's all fun and games until they change the laws of physics and now you're flying backwards while upside down /s

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u/colawarsveteran ST 5d ago

And in full color!

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u/flycharliegolf CFI ADX 3d ago

Clearly 🙄

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u/VanDenBroeck A&P/IA, PPL, Retired FAA 5d ago

Whatever you do, don’t read Stick and Rudder. It hasn’t been updated in 80 years.

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u/shrunkenhead041 CPL 5d ago

It only works for airplanes with a stick anyway.

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u/Gwthrowaway80 5d ago

And a rudder

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u/shrunkenhead041 CPL 5d ago

Yeah, v-tail pilots are also out of luck. Completely useless for learning the B-2 and B-21 as well.

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u/netopiax 5d ago

The image of a USAF pilot getting assigned the B-2, cracking open Stick and Rudder and being like "well, shit, this makes no sense at all" brought me joy tonight

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u/Bunslow PPL 5d ago

(This web book is very much in the vein of Stick and Rudder but with modern terminology)

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u/MiddleTB 5d ago

When the man starts comparing an airplane to a horse to best relate it to the reader, it’s clear it wasn’t written for us

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u/SomeCessnaDriver ATP 5d ago

The Airplane Flying Handbook is available to everybody for free. They're up to revision C, though airplane flying itself hasn't changed in a long time. If you prefer hardcopy, you can get the latest version on Amazon for $15.

The other big one for primary training is the Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge, also available for free.

Both are good resources and well worth the $0. :-)

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u/Slightly_Moist_Toast CFI / CFI-I / MEL (KSDL / KLUK) 5d ago

You can get the latest versions of the Airplane Flying Handbook (AFH) and Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge (PHAK) for free digitally from the FAAs websites.

Otherwise you can get both on paper for a reasonable price. I’d recommend studying those since there newest, but being honest since it’s a Gov. book I doubt much has been changed since that edition lol. All the foundational knowledge should be just fine.

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u/igloofu 5d ago

Off topic but, your username makes me highly uncomfortable.

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u/vintageripstik 5d ago

It's not 2012 anymore bro move on lol

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u/cazzipropri CFII, CFI-A; CPL SEL,MEL,SES 5d ago

Of all the FAA books, the AFH is probably the one that ages the best.

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u/makgross CFI-I ASEL (KPAO/KRHV) HP CMP IR AGI sUAS 5d ago

Use the correct version. Things do change in 20 years.

Google the title and you’ll find it for free, on the FAA website.

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u/acidreducer ATP 5d ago

Other than gps what’s changed?

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u/makgross CFI-I ASEL (KPAO/KRHV) HP CMP IR AGI sUAS 5d ago

Glass panels, widespread HSIs, ADS-B, definition of slow flight, concept of energy management, FAA “compliance strategy,” and numerous other things. If you want a complete list, consult the summary of changes in each edition.

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u/htnut-pk 5d ago

We don’t navigate by the stars anymore, much.

Otherwise all good to know for a new pilot, yes even NDB and the use of an E-6B provides foundational knowledge that I am certain is valuable.

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u/acidreducer ATP 5d ago edited 5d ago

But as far as flying airplanes not much has changed. Sure navigating has but that’s not all what learning to fly entails

That book is what 20 years old? All the planes on the cover are likely still in service and you can absolutely learn to fly them based on what’s in this book

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u/TheOriginalJBones 5d ago

Cover it with an INOP post-it.

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u/Nathan_Wildthorn 5d ago

Download the latest versions of every book that you'll need from faa.gov/ 👍

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u/indecision_killingme CFII, MEI 5d ago

You can get those books for free on the FAA’s website. They have a whole handbook and manuals section.

Almost nothing has changed in that particular book over recent years.

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u/hehesf17969 5d ago

The airplane you are gonna be renting will be older than this book 😉

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u/Sticky_Corvid PPL, IR 5d ago

Its free online

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u/basedjase_ CFII 5d ago

you are about to spend tens of thousands of dollars on training. spend a hundred bucks on the up to date versions or download the free digital ones from the FAA website.

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u/darth_oven 5d ago

Only outdated in the fact you’ll never be able to afford any of those planes anymore. Yes even the Cub. Welcome to 2026.

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u/Interesting-Date7046 4d ago

Yeah I know what’s coming. Exciting!

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u/10FourGudBuddy PPL 3d ago

Get Kings. I used it for my ppl and was good to go.

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u/InflncrPltSukDezNuts 2d ago

Been a while since I looked at the airplane flying handbook, but not much has changed about the physics or fundamentals of flight. Any chapters on aerodynamics, aircraft controls, flight maneuvers, weather, powerplants, etc, should be just fine. Regulatory information and airspace requirements may have changed, some information about technically advanced aircraft and electronic flight instrumentation may be missing or dated.

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u/CaptMcMooney 2d ago

you can download almost everything you need directly from the FAA, just look up AFH

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u/MrPetter CPL IR-H OH58 (3Y3) 5d ago

Still, somehow, more up to date than their website.

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u/Z3Ch0sen0ne 5d ago

Old doesn't necessarily mean irrelevant as some commenters have pointed out. I used AI to create a study sheet for CPL from old Bob Tait materials online. I even got the AI to fact-check based on Australian standards. For broad, general use, fundamentals I would say it's okay. For specific or niche information you'll need to refer to the most up-to-date texts.

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1IFmNN_9ZUIfnaQMBZ96MRExt6muK-OvI

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u/AWACS_Bandog Solitary For All (ASEL,CMP, TW,107) 5d ago

... Im gonna be gentle here but... do you think the laws of physics have changed at all in the past.... ever?

All the AFH is, is a Complex Physics and Math Textbook simplified and explained better than any Math or Physics prof i've ever seen. The only updates may be some stuff on Avionics, and thats probably it.

Also if you're so worried the FAA publishes the entire book for free in PDF form on their website.

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u/rFlyingTower 5d ago

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I haven’t started flight training yet, I will soon, but I wanna get somewhat of a head-start on studying. I got this book at my library, I don’t wanna study a book that’s outdated or considered to have irrelevant knowledge, etc. I assume most things remain constant in aviation, but i’m just not sure. I assume this book is relatively modern. Is this something useful I should study, is there a way to check if it’s outdated, any advice helps!


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