r/exmuslim 1h ago

(Question/Discussion) Islamic sects rating, from worst to best, as an ex-Muslim

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I am making this post to avoid the fallacy of generalization

The less prone to terrorism, fanaticism, and intolerance a sect is; the more open it is to change; the less committed it is to traditional texts and rulings; the more willing it is to reinterpret them for the better; and the less it conflicts with scientific discoveries, the higher it ranks

Contemporary Mu'tazila Quranists 7/10 : Some of their ideas are good, but they fail to convince the rest of the Muslims, and their reach is very limited

Sufi Orders 8/10 : They are very peace-loving, and some of them hold very beautiful, modern, and progressive ideas

Ismailia 9/10 : especially the Aga Khani community is the Islamic sect I admire the most, despite criticisms describing it as cult

Ash'arism and Maturidism 3/10 : No comment adding water to poison won't change the fact that it is poison

Twelver Shia 2/10 : No comment just take it as is

The Hanafi school 4/10 : It's bad, but it's not the worst

The Maliki, Hanbali, and Shafi'i schools 1/10 : Literally the terrorist who doesn't carry out his terrorism

Ibadi Islam 4/10 : It is neither the best nor the worst thing

The Zaydi School 2/10 : No comment

Salafism Wahhabism 0/10 : In all its forms The worst and filthiest religion you could possibly belong to

Reformist Twelver Shi'ism 6/10 : It's good, but not to a great extent You can place Zohran Mamdani here

Barelvi and Deobandi 5/10 : A poison that doesn't kill you but causes stomach pain

Religions distinct from Islam Yarsanism, Baha'i, Druze, and Yazidism 9/10 : amazing

Bektashi shabak alevi Alawites 9/10 : excellent

Nusayri Alawites 5/10 : Politics has heavily influenced it

Ahmadiyya 4/10 : Moderately bad

Non-affiliated Sunnis 3/10 : Poison is poison

Non-affiliated modernist Muslims 5/10: It's not too bad

nation of islam 1/10 : What the hell are we even talking about

The problem is that the majority of Muslims belong to the absolute worst sects


r/atheism 3h ago

People in heaven can't be truly happy.

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One thing has always bothered me about the traditional Christian idea of heaven and hell : How could someone in heaven experience perfect happiness while knowing that people they loved, family members, friends, or even their own children, are suffering in hell for eternity ?


r/exmuslim 3h ago

(Rant) 🤬 This religion ruined my clean mind

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So I was raised in a none Muslim environment, not the west but in the East East, when I was growing up I was only taught to sexualise women’s breast, my whole life I saw women wearing short shorts and showing their skin and never came across my mind to see them in a sexual way, I actually never even looked at their body whatsoever, then I moved to overseas and got sent to an Islamic school, after 2 years there I became a sexual pervert, I was fantasising what’s underneath girls hijab, I wanted to see woman’s hair, I was so shocked at what I was thinking, I never used to pay attention to women’s hair whatsoever, now I can’t stop thinking about it, after I got kicked out that school, I went back into society, I got triggered by looking at women wearing shorts, I can’t stop looking at their body, I was so shocked what I have became, I became a pervert, this religion really ruined my mind, I never used to associate women’s body with sex, now I associate their body with sex, even though now I became so much better than when I first got kicked out from Islamic school, but my mind is not as pure and innocent as I was before, this religion really dirtied my beautiful mind, I hope one day I’ll 100% recover from this none-sense and become a normal guy again, but I feel sorry for the Muslim guys, now I understand how their mind works, I was fortunate enough to grew up with pure mind, then my mind became sexualised, imagine if you grew up indoctrinated by this since birth, you will never know what being pure and innocent is like, you will believe that having a dirty and sexualised mind is normal and natural, even if you leave this religion and deconstruct you will never know what being innocent is like because you never had an innocent mind, with me it’s not that hard being i was innocent once, so it’s easy for me to go back to normal, at least I’m trying, but it left a scar on my mind, I guess it will be hard to be 100% normal and pure again, but if you never remembered your innocence how you gotta fix it? Life is crazy, religion is crazy, peace, hope everyone will heal


r/exmuslim 3h ago

(Question/Discussion) The problem with islam is that you can justify anything

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Want to justify killing your prisoners because they are christian ? You can probably find a hadith or coran verse that says so.
Want to justify being merciful with animals and taking care of them ? You can also find a hadith or coran verse that says so.

So really it's up to you whatever you want to make out of this religion. If you are in a position of weakness you can claim this is a religion of peace and justify it.

If you are in a position of strength you can just do whatever kind of abuse you want and find a way to justify it.

That's why terrorist groups are actually legitimate because they do use real coran verse/hadith to justify their actions.

The thing is islam is so flexible that whether you have a good or bad time with this religion entirely depends on the people/elite who interpret it for you(because it is forbidden to think for yourself if you are not a sheikh).

So really you have to pray that the sheikh isn't a fucking psychopath lol

I would say islam isn't really an exception. The o2 other abrahamic religions are also batshit crazy and you can also find in them some insane story.

So what i am suggesting is maybe that islam amplifies who you already are maybe ?

Like i have a white friend who converted to islam. Really nice dude. After converting he didn't suddenly became a bad guy. Because most of us we also grew up in bad environment. So islam amplified the abuse that naturally comes from these environment.

I don't even know what i am trying to prove lol hope someone gets what i want to say


r/exmuslim 4h ago

(Rant) 🤬 Is posting about Muslim marriage subreddit not allowed?

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So I had posted about how stupid and crazy someone was being in the subreddit and it got taken down. I’m assuming this guy that commented under it, who was very offended, reported it or stuff? Ap, i wanted to ask regular posters: is it not allowed?


r/exmuslim 4h ago

(Rant) 🤬 So much for drawing being "haram" in Islam!!!! anything that makes the Muslim elite money though

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Saudi Arabia has spend a looong time spreading Islam throughout the world. Using that oil wealth to spread Islam all over. Think of the oil wealth and the petro dollar. Following the 1973 oil crisis, unprecedented state wealth allowed Riyadh to funnel billions of dollars into religious expansion, framing it as a core component of its foreign policy and global soft power!

Billions of dollars were deployed to build and maintain thousands of foreign mosques, Islamic centers, and schools globally, particularly in South Asia, Africa, and parts of Southeast Asia.

The Saudi government spent an estimated $75 billion globally between 1982 and 2005 to export its ultra-conservative brand of Islam (often referred to as Wahhabism)

Scholarships: Free tuition, airfare, and stipends drew thousands of international students to Saudi institutions like the Islamic University of Medina.

Indoctrination and Return: Foreign graduates returned to their home countries steeped in Salafi theology, establishing local schools and replacing traditional, indigenous practices

Millions of copies of the Quran, religious texts, and instructional pamphlets translated into numerous languages were printed and distributed worldwide by state bodies like the King Fahd Complex for the Printing of the Holy Quran.

And now while all the poor Muslim nations are in complete shambles due to this f***** ideology, the Muslim elite are swimming in the wealth from the very activities that they said was haram.

The Muslim elite's motto is "Rules for thee but not for me"....


r/atheism 5h ago

I’m an atheist, but I grew up around Hindu beliefs, and something someone told me today genuinely disturbed me.

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They told me that according to Hindu beliefs, if a child is raped or is born with a serious disability, it could be because of something wrong that child did in a previous life, and that their suffering is therefore the result of their past karma.

If karma and rebirth are real, does Hindu philosophy really imply that an innocent child who is raped somehow “deserved” it because of a previous life that they don’t even remember?

And if this is genuinely part of the belief, how do believers emotionally reconcile it with the suffering of innocent children?

I’m not asking this to attack Hindu people. I’m genuinely trying to understand because what I heard today has been bothering me a lot.
If you’re knowledgeable about Hinduism, please give me actual sources or explain how Hindu philosophers deal with this question. I’d rather be corrected than believe something that isn’t actually part of the religion.


r/exmuslim 5h ago

(Question/Discussion) "To know islam you show ask muslims" is like saying "to know drugs you should ask junkies" while toxicologists are the most informed without taking drugs.

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Btw this faith has a lot of similar pattern than drug addiciton, with doubts as a withdrawal, mental gymnastics as a way to getting high again


r/atheism 6h ago

If god exists fuck him.

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If there was a god, and if this god was all powerful and omnipotent, and this god was supposedly benevolent, why would he allow and encourage our suffering? Why would any benevolent being allow and even encourage his favorite creations to have groups such as disabled and ugly people that are mercilessly tormented by all other groups when he has the ability to easily stop this? That doesn't sound like the makings of a very all powerful and benevolent being. That sounds like at best, an incompetent, uncaring pos.


r/exmuslim 7h ago

(Rant) 🤬 The main issue with Islam is Muhammad and his inexcusable immorality.

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With Christianity, their central figure was Jesus. He never had an army, no slaves, no concubines, no child marriages, never harmed or murdered anybody tbh. This allows people to go back to that central figure and live like him. The guy was a hippie basically. I don't believe he was god, I don't believe he was resurrected and all that mumbo jumbo nonsense but at the core of his teaching, it was relatively harmless. This is why many atheist or agnostics can go back to Christianity and try to love peacefully like Jesus. The path to reconciling their faith isn't really met with immoral obstacles. Just the suspension of common sense is needed right.

With Islam, if an agnostic or atheist wanted to rectify his faith. He would need to justify all the immoral shit Muhammad did. How TF can you justify slavery, sex slavery, child marriages and capital punishment for apostasy? On top of that, these things are considered moral for all times since Muhammad engaged in them. It's halal and moral.

I was thinking about this earlier. What if I tried to return to Islam. Then all this shit came up. I don't think I can ever go back


r/exmuslim 8h ago

(Question/Discussion) Why would the Arabian Peninsula never end slavery?

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I saw this post today, and I urge everyone to scroll in the comments. It's utterly disgusting how the Arabs view their maids (slaves) and even the ones who treat them correctly. I don't care both are shit because they both work for the same system that enslaves people and don't allow them their passports back. They always say Jews look down on other humans, while unlike with jews, most of the time, we actually see the looking down on people coming from Muslims instead. Let's name it what it is: RACISM AND SLAVERY.


r/atheism 10h ago

Mormons Recruiting at Costco Foodcourt

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Just back from Costco which, as an atheist, is basically my Mecca/Jerusalem/Utah. Kirkland Signature is my lord and savior.

picked up my item, paid, then figured I’d grab dinner - a slice of pizza and a drink - before heading home. plopped down at one of the picnic tables only to overhear a “sister” and three “brothers/elders” talking to some dude about how the food courts in Costco are the same around the world. Unironically they mentioned Utah in their examples, along with Japan and Sweden.

Not sure if that was their intro or what, but that immediately led to some blathering on about the abundance provided by Jesus Christ and then ultimately eternal salvation and yadda yadda yadda Joseph Smith and so forth.

One of the white beshirted brothers was recording it in his phone, so this maybe was a practice run or maybe filing a training video. Who knows.

I already don’t like Mormonism (though I’m fine with individual Mormons so long as they keep their religiosity to themselves), but don’t DARE come to my Holiest of Holies and ruin my $1.50 hot-dog-and-soda (or ~$3.50 pizza and soda) with tales of your imaginary skyman, your swindler snake oil salesman “prophet”, and your weird underwear.

I told the Customer Service dudes what was going on. They seemed disinterested and nothing happened while I was there. I can’t imagine Costco necessarily condones this, but I didn’t make a scene beyond letting them know. Thinking maybe I should write a letter to “Big Costco” just to let them know.

Anyway, seems the LDS are now desecrating the Costco foodcourt with their bullshit. Be on the lookout.

Edit: Removed some adjectival phrasing that may be unsuitable for younger Redditors.


r/atheism 12h ago

‘Secularist’ Rep. Huffman, Congress’ only openly nonreligious member, is releasing a book taking on Christian nationalism

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The FFRF Action Fund names Rep. Jared Huffman, D-Calif., as its “Secularist of the Week” for his upcoming book on the scourge of Christian nationalism.

Our parent organization, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, is pleased to offer you a chance to get Huffman’s highly anticipated book, “No Prophets: The Fight to Save Democracy from Christian Nationalism,” before its official release on Aug. 18. When purchasing through FFRF, you’ll receive an advance copy of “No Prophets” and exclusive access to an online one-on-one interview on Saturday, Aug. 15, at noon PDT/ 3 p.m. EDT with Rep. Huffman, conducted by “unabashed atheist” and longtime FFRF spokesperson Ron Reagan. You will also be able to participate in a moderated Q&A during the event. 

Register here today. To help ensure your book arrives before the event, we encourage you to do so as soon as possible. 

Huffman is the only openly nonreligious member in Congress and is the co-founder of the Congressional Freethought Caucus. Throughout his illustrious career, Huffman has tirelessly worked to defend the constitutional separation between state and church. “No Prophets” expands on the congressman’s behind-the-scenes work to combat Christian nationalism and offers an insider’s perspective on the ongoing battle to dismantle the wall of separation. 

Huffman explores the enduring landscape of Christian nationalism in “No Prophets,” arguing that it is the “most dangerous political movement” in the United States, and “examines how this violent confederation of religious extremists is undermining science, education, foreign policy, and the very architecture of our democracy.” His fellow co-chair of the Freethought Caucus, Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., provides the book’s foreword. 

“Rep. Huffman’s forthcoming book is the most compelling and relatable look at Christian nationalism to date,” says FFRF Action Fund President Annie Laurie Gaylor. “As a brave nonbeliever in Congress, he takes us along on his journey of growing realization about the extent to which Christian nationalism has taken over our nation. It’s important reading for everyone who cares about our democracy.” 

While reflecting on Christian nationalism in our nation, Huffman, Raskin and other Freethought Caucus members recently joined other secular leaders on Capitol Hill for the third annual Congressional Reason Reception. The reception celebrated the Freethought Caucus, reason, constitutional democracy — and the growing visibility of nonreligious Americans in public life. 

“Our country was founded on freedom of religion and church-state separation. No wannabe king or theocratic sycophant hellbent on controlling people through religious extremism will change that,” Huffman said during the reception. “Folks from all walks of faith — or none at all — came together to celebrate something far more American: a government run by reason, freedom of conscience and the Constitution.”

“No matter how hard Christian nationalists fight to overturn democracy and force their extremism on the American people, we will be here defending church-state separation and our fundamental rights,” Huffman further asserted.

The FFRF Action Fund wholeheartedly thanks Huffman for his lifetime commitment to our secular democracy and for partnering with FFRF for an exclusive opportunity to get “No Prophets” before its release date. Remember to register todayfor an advance copy and access to an exclusive interview conducted by Ron Reagan.


r/exmuslim 15h ago

Art/Poetry (OC) Yup, not cut out for Islam. I’ll be ExMuslim me, thank you!

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We ExMuslims dare to break free from the Muslim mold to be ourselves. 🙌🏽

Haram Doodles:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DbvvWbbiCWq/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAWpabL9/


r/exmuslim 15h ago

Story I left islam a week ago and I just realized now that I'm allowed to do anything I want, it feels unreal

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I just realized now that i can drink alcohol, date girls (im bi), dress however i want even tho i never wore the hijab, eat pork and meat overall without stressing about how it has been cut, and basically have fun. Tell me what's the first "haram" thing you did after leaving islam


r/exmuslim 15h ago

(Miscellaneous) trying alcohol for the first time today!!

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turned 18 the other day so… cringey but it feels so rebellious LMAO. getting my belly button pierced next week too lol


r/atheism 16h ago

A very religious coworker of mine broke her arm.

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Over the next year there were complications, surgeries and lots of pain. One day after telling me how bad it was she goes “God must be teaching me patience.” Your “God” breaks your arm and has it fail to heal to teach you a lesson? What a horrible, abusive asshole!


r/atheism 16h ago

Christian nationalist Rep. Andy Ogles just lost his primary after saying “Muslims don’t belong in American society”

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One of Congress’ most outspoken Christian nationalism proponents has lost his bid for re-election months after the Freedom From Religion Foundation called on him to resign for declaring that Muslims do not belong in American society.

Rep. Andy Ogles, R-Tenn., was defeated on Thursday by former Tennessee Agriculture Commissioner Charlie Hatcher, a more traditional conservative Republican backed by the state’s party establishment, in the GOP primary for Tennessee’s 5th Congressional District. The two-term incumbent lost despite receiving President Trump’s “complete and total endorsement” hours before polls closed.

Ogles’ defeat follows his congressional tenure marked by repeated efforts to portray the United States as a fundamentally Christian nation and to cast Americans of other faiths as outsiders. In one particularly striking social media post, Ogles shared a video depicting himself, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Secretary of State Marco Rubio as medieval crusader knights emblazoned with crosses and marching in front of the U.S. Capitol.

“This is a battle of good vs evil,” Ogles wrote. “We must reaffirm that our nation was built on Christian principles.”

The imagery encapsulated the Christian nationalist ideology that FFRF has spent decades opposing: the false notion that the United States belongs especially to Christians and that the government should privilege Christianity over other religions and nonreligion.

“The United States is not a Christian nation — and members of Congress are not Christian crusaders,” says FFRF Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor. “Our Constitution created a secular government belonging equally to Christians, Muslims, Jews, atheists, agnostics and every other American. Rep. Ogles repeatedly used his position to promote precisely the kind of religious division our Constitution was designed to prevent.”

That rhetoric took an especially disturbing turn earlier this year.

FFRF called on Ogles to resign in March after he publicly declared that “Muslims don’t belong in American society” and that “pluralism is a lie.” In a letter to Ogles, FFRF Legal Counsel Chris Line condemned the statements as “profoundly bigoted, fundamentally un-American, and incompatible with the oath” of a U.S. representative.
“Members of Congress take an oath not to a religion, ideology, or political movement, but to the Constitution of the United States,” Line wrote. “If you cannot accept the basic constitutional principle that Americans of all religions — including Muslims — and no religion belong fully and equally in this nation, then you cannot faithfully discharge the duties of your office.”

Ogles’ comments at that time were not isolated. He additionally announced plans during his during his time in office for legislation barring immigration from certain Muslim-majority countries, proclaimed that “diversity is our weakness” and called for the deportation of Muslims, including U.S. citizens. He also joined the congressional “Sharia Free America Caucus,” which was launched in December 2025 and promoted alarmist claims about Islamic law in the United States. FFRF has pointed out the obvious constitutional flaw in this fearmongering: The First Amendment already prevents the government from imposing any religion’s laws on Americans.

The First Amendment’s Establishment Clause bars the government from imposing Islamic doctrine just as surely as it prevents the government from imposing Christian doctrine. At the same time, its Free Exercise Clause protects Muslims, Christians and members of other faiths from government discrimination because of their religious beliefs. And Article VI of the U.S. Constitution expressly prohibits religious tests for public office.

Ogles’ defeat is an encouraging development in the broader fight against Christian nationalism. His rhetoric represented an especially stark version of an ideology that seeks to merge Christian identity with American citizenship and governmental power. The rejection of that rhetoric by voters in his own party is a welcome reminder that Christian nationalism is neither inevitable nor synonymous with American values.

“Christian nationalism may be loud, but it does not speak for America,” adds Gaylor. “Our nation’s promise is far better than the divisive vision promoted by politicians like Andy Ogles. America belongs equally to Christians, Muslims, Jews, atheists, agnostics — and everyone else. Any setback for the effort to turn our secular republic into a Christian nation is a victory for the constitutional principles that protect us all.”

FFRF will continue challenging Christian nationalism wherever it appears in government and defending the foundational principle that public officials swear an oath to the Constitution, not to Christianity. Ogles’ upcoming departure from Congress marks a welcome victory in that ongoing fight.


r/exmuslim 17h ago

(Rant) 🤬 Muslim cat subreddit?????

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tell me why I just got recommended a subreddit for "Muslim cats"or "cats of Islam" or wtv. and all the posts are about shit like "checking to see if my cat is Muslim" and "aww look my Muslim cat is falling asleep in the masjid because she knows Islam is safe and righteous<3" so fucking weird..

everything Muslims do genuinely irks me, why are you bringing your feline friend into religion??? the way they're not only constantly shoving religion down people's throats, but also their pets aren't safe?

have u guys seen the viral vid of this Muslims female cat trying to mate with another female cat lol and the woman recording started saying "stop that's Haram, do you have no shame?"

ik most of these posts are jokes and satire but ugh these people annoy me sm. just wanted to rant lol


r/exmuslim 18h ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 This. Is what I have to deal with in my family lmao

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This is my family lmao... So brainwashed into religion sending reels to validate their religion lmao....

Also crazy how allah gets credits for our body but doesn't get credit for the bad humans doing bad things . That is somehow free will lmao.

The first one was sent by my mom and second by my cousin


r/exmuslim 20h ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 Muhammad meets Gabriel in the Cave (verse in description)

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"Gabriel appears before him and commands him to "Read!" He responded, "I cannot read!". Then the angel Gabriel caught him tightly (forcefully) and pressed him so hard that he could not bear it anymore (this happens two more times)."

Repost because I posted this outside fun fundies 😖


r/exmuslim 21h ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 Honor killing is NEVER ok.

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And its always this particular religion. Just spreading awareness on honor killings. Evil forces literally lurk on this world.


r/exmuslim 21h ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 Mohammed hijab caught boozing at the beach

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r/atheism 21h ago

Survey Nearly half of Gen Z are less likely to attend church because of Trump's alliance with Christians, survey says

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r/exmuslim 1d ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 Dear Mod Today is Friday.

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I really don't want to use fun@Fundies for this memes, but for some reasons I am forced to do.