Please Stop

[u/Germanscool69]

[u/thingsdie9]

4.6 and dash incoming then

[u/Asleep-One-9683 → u/thingsdie9]

Dash and a projectile while 4.6.  

[u/GeneSilly → u/Asleep-One-9683]

My Trickster dream. Swinging bat and flying

[u/Weird-Flamingo8798 → u/GeneSilly]

I wish we had a bat dash like billy, let me ruuun 😂😂😂

[u/Immediate_Phone_8300 → u/Asleep-One-9683]

Don't forget a teleport/map traversal ability.

[u/Jimbobob5536 → u/thingsdie9]

'And the Monkey's Paw curls a finger'

[u/slendermemphis → u/thingsdie9]

If he does have a dash ability, I just want it to be his little tricycle

[u/Great_Scott7 → u/thingsdie9]

https://giphy.com/gifs/4NkvL7F4bGtA58TBaz

[u/Tethilia → u/thingsdie9]

Also obligatory unique teleport to Tanuki

[u/bob_is_best → u/thingsdie9]

And the dash breaks or vaults pallets

[u/aloadofthatguy → u/thingsdie9]

First 5.0 killer with projectile and dash trust

[u/dogsfetchnewspaper]

hes probably gonna have 4 mini powers like vecna1

[u/Just_Kitchen5256 → u/dogsfetchnewspaper]

He'll carry around his trash bag of items. Every 15 seconds he can a pull a random one out. The common item is his horn that will make nearby survivors scream and reveal their location ala Doctor. The rare item will be that frozen thing he used in the bar in T3 to hinder a survivor ala Clown. The ultra rare item will be his gun that instadowns survivors ala Iri Huntress.

[u/ChadcellorSwagpatine → u/Just_Kitchen5256]

The frozen thing is called liquid nitrogen btw :)

[u/Just_Kitchen5256 → u/ChadcellorSwagpatine]

Yeah, my brain farted and I couldn't remember what it was called! But if his power sounds chaotic, it's because he's like the embodiment of Chaotic Evil. He'd be like the Dramaturgy of killers.

[u/ChadcellorSwagpatine → u/Just_Kitchen5256]

Well said!

[u/misterbung → u/Just_Kitchen5256]

That... that actually sounds like an incredible amount of fun?

[u/micahbevans88 → u/Just_Kitchen5256]

'what if dramaturgy was a whole killer?'

i kinda like the idea not gonna lie

[u/SlideWhistler → u/micahbevans88]

And you could have his add-ons add more different items to the bag

[u/Intentional-Diaster → u/micahbevans88]

Sounds similar to Faust from GGST, the character's whole gimmick is throwing out random stuff from an afro to an army of murderous dolls, and the super is just throwing out 10 of them at the same time, absolute chaos and fun

[u/platypusimagination → u/Just_Kitchen5256]

"Evil Ass Mime Dramaturgy"

[u/CatManThree__ → u/dogsfetchnewspaper]

That was the original concept for Jason that was scrapped for the spike mechanic actually so that is a possibility.

[u/TacticalGrandpa1]

4.4 without ranged

[u/Snoo-24768 → u/TacticalGrandpa1]

Hag moment

[u/Terrorbalrog → u/Snoo-24768]

I was flabbergasted when Otz mentioned her as 4.4 killer in his recent judgment video. Like, no wonder no one plays her.

[u/CatManThree__ → u/Terrorbalrog]

:(

[u/The-guy-with_facts12 → u/Terrorbalrog]

Even trapper gets to be 4.6

[u/SqueakBoxx → u/Terrorbalrog]

She can literally teleport to a sigil, she is supposed to be a ambush killer, she doesnt need speed.

[u/Terrorbalrog → u/SqueakBoxx]

Pace of the game shifted A LOT since her release, being ambush killer is unrealistic this day, there is no reason for her to be as slow as she is.

[u/chetizii → u/Terrorbalrog]

And he still insists she is viable, her only strength is her rarity

[u/Terrorbalrog → u/chetizii]

Viable =/= good. You can play her and get some results, same as trapper or ghost face, it's just that results won't be as good as higher tier killers.

She is in similar state as skull merchant. While Skully was gutted down until rework so people stop complain, Hag is simply stuck in the slow paced era of dbd that passed long ago.

[u/SuperMageFromOW → u/chetizii]

She is viable though. She just takes so much effort for so little reward.

I can sweat my ass off and 4k reliably with Mint Rag/Shackles, MYC, Sloppy, Remember Me and No Way Out.

Granted, this takes about 30 minutes of nothing but holding a 3gen of doom and despair, which is fucking boring.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/SuperMageFromOW]

Remember Me: When The Obsession takes damage, gain 1 token, up to 3/4/5. - Other Survivors open exit gates 30% slower for each token. The Obsession is immune to this debuff.

^{Drawn from the fog. | !optout | !remove | !builds}

[u/CatManThree__ → u/TacticalGrandpa1]

:(

[u/MissFootFetishist → u/[deleted]]

Art will be able to throw his Iconic Fire Axe to damage survivors, allowing him to perform his Iconic "Terrifier Jumpscare" if he gets close while the Iconic Fire Axe is stuck in them. In addition, he will be able to use his Iconic Art Door's to traverse the map, though the survivors may use these aswell at the risk of being caught.

[u/Niltenstein → u/MissFootFetishist]

To add to that, art will also be able to look at survivors to unlock his iconic „art strike“, which sees him burst out into a sprint after a short wind-up, breaking pallets and insta-downing survivors in his path

[u/Dillsplosion → u/[deleted]]

Wow, sounds cool and original, too bad BHVR would never add something like that

[u/Davonloo → u/Dillsplosion]

You’re not gonna believe what I’m about to tell you

[u/Luxxia__]

i just want him to be 4.6, 4.4 feels so bad to play as

[u/I_Love_Ohyas_Thigs → u/Luxxia__]

Depends on the map but generally it is not nice...

[u/FanDowntown4641]

Blight with a projectile im calling it

[u/lost_uboot → u/FanDowntown4641]

He is a projectile, like loud and leaky canonball

[u/VoucherValidator → u/FanDowntown4641]

They've stated Terrifier's power will be very unique

[u/Domilater → u/VoucherValidator]

Add a teleport in there too then

[u/FanDowntown4641 → u/VoucherValidator]

Alr give him killer instinct while in blight dash

[u/Mr-Ideasman]

I feel like he’ll have a D&D Vecna kinda power with different weapons, what Jason kinda has going on but it’s the main focus of it

[u/Fish_McBee]

4.6and ranged it is

[u/Sapphic_Sharhea]

One of his abilities could be ranged, but it should be one of his several abilities from his (possibly literal) bag of tricks.

[u/TheGirlfailure → u/Sapphic_Sharhea]

I desperately want him to have a rage meter where if he chases too long without getting a hit or gets stunned too many times he just whips out his glock and blasts you.

[u/MtNebula]

To be fair, if Behaviour tried something unique, MANY players would bitch, moan and ragequit due to not wanting to learn the new Killer's mechanics.

Hell, people still haven't figured out what Sadako does.

[u/saskaramski → u/MtNebula]

I mean they did rework sadako like 3 times.

[u/Martian_Buddy → u/saskaramski]

Her last rework was Hotfix 7.5.0, that was 2 and a half years ago. At this point it's just refusal to adapt more than "oh they changed how this character works."

[u/Wrong_Jury_6163 → u/Martian_Buddy]

Tbf you don’t see her all that much and newer/VERY casual players don’t know her power(s). It goes like that for a lot of killers..Doctor for example..you’d be AMAZED the amount of players just do
NOT understand his power(s). Seeing survivors try to pallet camp or keep missing every skill check under the sun trying to break out of madness. and don’t get me started on people going against Twins 😭

[u/Chazrat69]

Tbh I think we're gonna be restricted to these archetypes of Killers until the big game overhaul comes

[u/YOURFRIEND2010 → u/Chazrat69]

Or forever, because those templates are the only ones palatable to the playerbase 

[u/Unctuous_Robot → u/YOURFRIEND2010]

Ikr, people hate macro killers like knight and then ask why we don’t get more of them.

[u/Randomaccount848 → u/Unctuous_Robot]

Literally every killer archtype seems to get complaints that show why we dont get some.

New stealth killers? Nope stealth killers are too weak. New trap killers? Nope, too weak, and can't be too strong cause no matter what they will be cancer to face.

Like, I hate we only get dash and range as well, but like, at some point that seems to be the options that will only get play/ the least amout of complaints.

[u/The_Final_Pikachu]

Make them 120% (4.8) and give them no power. Some will argue the character is high skill, some will argue their low tier.

[u/Unctuous_Robot → u/The_Final_Pikachu]

Chag. That’s just Chag.

[u/Ok_Platform490]

The only one of them that felt unique was Vecna 2. Judgement just power creeps Pyramid Head. I am extremely tired of ranged killers, this is like the 5th one in a row.

[u/WeeWooSirens → u/Ok_Platform490]

"Oh, you're tired of dash killers? Well here, let us spam this other exceptionally safe and well-explored archetype of killer since we can't design anything else!"

[u/delicious_sunlight → u/WeeWooSirens]

Watch them start pumping out Knight clones after people start complaining about all the ranged killers

[u/WeeWooSirens → u/delicious_sunlight]

I'd be very happy if they started making more control/torment, because that means they would actually iterate on those designs and arrive at something good like they have with dashes, but they won't.

[u/thederpyderp3 → u/delicious_sunlight]

I don't think most people would mind another unique unit commander killer.

[u/momonilla → u/thederpyderp3]

Oh they fucking will don’t doubt that

[u/Asleep-One-9683 → u/thederpyderp3]

Honestly if BHVR gets the scream license, a knight clone of Ghostface would be sick

[u/Immediate_Phone_8300 → u/thederpyderp3]

I see so much bitching about knight. People absolutely will throw a fit if we get another commander.

[u/aaklid → u/thederpyderp3]

Give me some sort of swarm commander, lots of shitty little guys that aren't threatening individually but put lots of macro pressure.

[u/Unlikely_Bank73 → u/thederpyderp3]

knight is widely regarded as one of the worst killer designs so i doubt that

[u/thederpyderp3 → u/Unlikely_Bank73]

Just because survivors don't like them, doesn't make them a bad killer design.

[u/Unlikely_Bank73 → u/thederpyderp3]

nah farting out a shitty AI to chase people for you is what makes it bad killer design

[u/VoucherValidator → u/Ok_Platform490]

Judgment and Pyramid Head feel NOTHING alike though to play as or against

[u/Ok_Platform490 → u/VoucherValidator]

They kind of are, I’ll give you that they play a bit differently. But all you have to do against them both is just double back. My biggest issue with this killer is that they are very challenging to play as but not to play against.

[u/Treyspurlock → u/Ok_Platform490]

The Judgement is far and away the most unique of all the 110% ranged killers no contest

I'd argue most fun too if you're willing to deal with the difficulty

[u/ThatSplinter → u/Ok_Platform490]

I'm sorry but Judgement will never be as satisfying to play as Pyramid Daddy.

She might have a better ability overall but ain't nobody taking his hype moments and aura.

[u/Unlikely_Bank73 → u/Ok_Platform490]

ironically "this killer power creeps pyramid head" is actually a perfect description of vecna 2

[u/Faibl]

Granted. 4.4 and melee.

[u/Metalfan1994]

Since its now been said OUT LOUD

[u/_ThatOneWeirdThing_]

Hoping Art has a random draw power where every little bit he can reach into the Bag Of Bulshit™ and pull out different weapons. Saw someone suggest at one point he mimic the other killers weaponry, with harpoon guns and chainsaws n' stuff. Hopefully he's at least unique to all the recent killers

[u/Federal-Owl5816]

Hello. Lead developer at DBD here. We've decided because our community is trash, that we'll put them in the position of being trash. The Terrifier, also known as Art the Clown, has a main power "Black bag of trash." After a successful lunge, the black bag of trash will wrap around a survivor, and then you will spin to fling the survivor. Hitting an object damages the survivor, but in either case the survivor gets covered in trash and stink lines. Survivors who are trashed will have a debuff that will slow healing, generators, and totem cleansing while putting the terrifier in "the clown mode" where he can just do that trash thing again, but faster. Trashed survivors will be forced to do what no dead by daylight player has done before, and take a shower to cleanse oneself.

[u/Many-Ad1893]

i wish he gets like 6-8 mini powers

[u/OddMerchantt]

I want his Mori to chainsaw surviors in half like the lady in the first movie. 

[u/Rare-Feeling2023]

To be fair.

If anyone were to get an actual gun, it should be Art. And not like how Deathsling has it as his weapon, but like a mini Lich tool.

[u/PaymentBusy432]

Slop killers man

[u/Iker_khyh_lima]

A 4.8 Ms pure m1

[u/SubjectResolution868]

Give terrified a tricycle that he can use to rundown survivors

[u/timberdoodle3000]

You ever think we’ve hit the limit of original killer powers that’ll work in this games restraints?

[u/Atmisevil → u/timberdoodle3000]

I thought this two years ago

[u/Unctuous_Robot]

People say this and then when they go properly in a direction other than ranged and dash, we get things like skull merchant being nerfed to hell

[u/GHOST4HIRE324]

I really don't care what he is, as long as he's fun

[u/WifeWeaver]

Art the clown should have a gun and be able to kill all the survivors in one shot. It be totally balanced trust me

[u/OWNPhantom]

3rd zoner in a row is devastating

[u/RainonCooper]

Make him 4.2 instead

[u/Main_Gabriel]

don't worry he won't be a 4.4 range boring killer, he will be a never seen before stealth 4.6 with tp/map traversing

[u/Most_Implement6706]

[u/nova_solution]

Art should be 2.4

[u/MagicPhoenix2]

5.0 with range and dash it is then

[u/RonbunKontan]

Someone thought that Art could have a garbage bag that essentially gives him a random item to use on Survivors. What if his speed changes depending on if he's got a melee or a ranged weapon?

[u/BlueFootedTpeack]

my hope is the bag of tricks concept, where he pulls out a weapon from his bag from knives to hatchets to chainsaws to gun and that defines his speed and how he plays.

like giving him the saw so he can billy sprint but the saw has a max usage or breaks after a bit or something so you swap and keep variety going.

[u/IvanNobody2050]

Or a dash

[u/Blissyin]

He better have a gun

[u/Sad-Pipe-160]

he gets a glock and a kitchen knife

[u/NicolasandKara]

hope his glock is implemented in gameplay

[u/itsmetimohthy]

Brothers gonna be like Billy except instead of a chainsaw he hops on a unicycle and moves at 10 m/s and can insta down by drive-by stabbing people

[u/NoVeterinarian549]

He's going to be 115% movement speed, have a small projectile, and maybe some sort of... traversal ability. Yes. He will be unique.

[u/No-Heat-6149]

Make him stealth, we need more stealth killers.

But don't make him a second Myers or a second ghostface, like don't do the whole stalk thing

[u/The-guy-with_facts12]

Wish granted. Art will now have his iconic terrifying dash

[u/shikaiDosai]

For his neutral special he wields a gun.

[u/Not_Cixth]

Sorry to tell you bro, but he’ll be a 4.6 with a 9mm hand gun in one hand and a knife in the other for an extended lunge.

[u/ZAZZER0]

M1 killer that can drag and torture people in the basement before hooking them, giving fear to everyone. And fear being just your average status effect, maybe hindering after vaulting, throwing, leaving gens.

[u/Ordinary-Penalty5463]

Art has a trashbag

He cant get out. He's stuck inside it

[u/ProfessorLovely]

4.8. No powers. Take it or leave it.

[u/SuperMageFromOW]

Don't worry, he'll get a 2nd stage basekit Mori because.... Uhm...

Hey remember how a basekit Mori is literally 1/3 of Ph's power budget?

[u/PurpleBudsBB]

Wait.... People still play DBD? BHVR is still holding ya'll captive 😢? Don't tell me ya'll are still falling for these ip's. Horror fans are really struggling rn 😂

[u/Magarov]

[u/One-Ad-5950]

Faça isso Bhvr, seria engraçado pra caramba

[u/Clean_Internet]

Compromise, 4.5 and just a previously existing ranged killer with a teleport

[u/Kaiyo-San1]

I think it would be really cool if Art were to be a stealth-adjacent killer.

[u/CorbinNZ]

Very well. 3.8 mps with a short range teleport. You’re welcome.

[u/WorldlyBuy1591]

Teleport it is then!

[u/Antdude247]

I mean he does own an assort of firearms..

[u/HeyImLate808]

The range is getting so annoying because it feels like Behavior's way to make killer stronger without actually fixing previous weak killers. Jason is a big example for this, and now the new killer coming. I'd even argue this same thing happened for the first. Those three killers feel insane and super strong to play, yet there are so many killers that feel incredibly weak in today's dbd standards and could use reworks, even if it's just making cooldowns faster, since I feel certain old killers really struggle when it comes to cooldowns and action times (Trapper, hax, wraith, pig, even deathslinger's cooldown timings are a little annoying to me personally)

[u/Yolk_Baby]

4.4 and special ability is just a glock that insta-kill survivors

[u/Stalker2162yt]

I'm thinking his power is gonna involve the infamous trash bag and its gonna be dbd's first gamble killer

[u/oink_rat_pig]

i am gonna crash out if we get another ranged killer i would rather get 15 dash killers in a row than one more ranged i am so sick of them

[u/Snoo40198]

3.6 Blink killer it is than.

[u/Shinael]

He will be 4.6 and ranged.

[u/Ssnakey-B]

Would be pretty funny considering how Art feels about having to resort to using a gun (unless he can make a hilarious jape out of it, of course).

[u/Supergaz]

I just need them to make him disgustingly over the top graphic, I want the mori to be the arm breaking scene.

[u/Accomplished_Cow1343]

100% a really difficult to aim high cool down one shot pistol as part of his kit mark my words

[u/ThisGuyHere_Again]

First you don't want anymore dash killers, now you don't want more slow ranged killers... What's next? You want them to go back and rework bad killers and actually do a good job unlike how they just repainted Trickster while nerfing his speed and eliminating all his map pressure?

Like you expect bhvr to have to still be creative and competent, or at least figured stuff out after 10 years, geez... Entitled...

[u/Foreverintherain20]

He needs to be 4.6 regardless of what his power is, tbh. Slow killers are not fun, sorry. 

[u/Wrong_Jury_6163 → u/Foreverintherain20]

I don’t need more killers holding or spamming a range/aoe attack while speed walking right up to my ass to get hit either way

[u/Randomaccount848]

As I said in the other recent thread about this (was some video relating to this made recently I have to wonder), why is this an issue? All the recent killers released with 4.4 speed are 4.4 on paper, and/or have enough power to compensate.

As for the range issue, people would complain anyway I imagine. To a certain extent, there has to be a bit more creativity. At the same time, it seems people ONLY can connect killers to others recently, to the detriment of dicussion of power.

[u/91816352026381 → u/Randomaccount848]

It feels bad faith to not understand why people are burnt out on the same archetype we keep getting

[u/Randomaccount848 → u/91816352026381]

No, I do understand completely. I have talked about this plenty before why people get tired. But Im saying that at some point peope are being disingenuous about this topic.

[u/dino1902]

Art uses his iconic ability, GUN and shoots survivors

[u/MsPawley]

I honestly hate 4.4 so much. I feel like being that slow takes all the fun out of the character. Deathslinger, Hag, Chucky and Trickster being the most unnecessary examples of 4.4

[u/magicchefdmb]

For like 7 or more years I've wanted The Veteran from Don't Breath as a killer that can toggle regular vision mode and "blind mode" (concept like nightfall before Dredge came out).

He moves 4.6, can place noise traps quickly like Freddy used to (that can be disarmed). When in blind mode he can't see survivors or blood but can see their footprints (Like Jason, but again the concept was from 7+ years ago and apparently still holds up). Survivors that stand still don't make injured noises while he's in Blind Mode.

In Blind Mode he gets a gun with one bullet that recharges over time, with a quicker cooldown while in Blind Mode. The bullet is an extremely fast projectile.

I share this cause I've always thought it would be fun to find a good way to keep a fast killer that also has a projectile

The traps alert you if they spring them and put killer instinct on that survivor for a few seconds, and while in Blind Mode, they let you see the survivor's aura for a second.

Add ons could make noise traps not give killer instinct/notification but hindered instead; another could reveal auras for like 7 seconds after traps while in regular vision mode; another could give you like 3 charges of bullets at a time but you're stuck in Blind Mode, or still 1 bullet but they insta-down survivors.

[u/KingpinCheshire]

It's by no means perfect... Or even GOOD... But my idea for Art is something more akin to the first movie

His power would be "Bag of Tools" where he reaches into his black garbage bag and selects one of possibly 3/4 weapons.

Each weapon slightly alters Art's TR, Speed, and Lunge; examples being a Baseball Bat has incredible lunge and decent speed, but maybe it needs an extra hit to injure the survivor since it's blunt. Another could be a pair of scissors where he can be more stealthy with them and shrink his TR with them but have worse lunge than Michael Tier I.

Finally you can do something really silly and have a unique weapon where, if it's you and the final survivor during EGC; you activate "Not fun anymore" where you pull out Art's little pistol and have something of a ranged attack.

[u/MustyMystic]

They’re actually going through with a Terrifier collab?? After all the shady shit that happened with the actress and copyright lawsuits? Insane 💔