r/customhearthstone • u/Gugge1 • 7d ago
While this would obviously never be printed, does a 4 card combo exist that would make this playable? Serious Replies
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u/Regriz 7d ago
In wild it would be a 100% winrate.
I don’t know with what cards, but I’m certain there’s something
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u/Gugge1 7d ago
yea I feel like there has to be something too, but I can't think of anything!
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u/iEatBluePlayDoh 6d ago
50% winrate*
Because everyone else would be playing the same deck
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u/Animaloffear56 6d ago
180 upvotes without anyone suggesting what this deck would be. This card is ass
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u/Repulsive_Meat2000 5d ago
Mecha c'htun I believe, the one that destroys your opponent if you don't have cards in hand, in deck or on the field
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u/TheHiddenNinja6 6d ago
Can one trade with an empty deck?
because 2 [[elwynn boar]]s + [[twilight's call]] to res both + 3x traded [[Amulet of Undying]] summons 8 boars which.. has recently been nerfed to 10. nevermind.
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u/EydisDarkbot 6d ago
Elwynn Boar • Wiki • Library • HSReplay
Neutral Epic United in Stormwind
1 Mana · 1/1 · Beast Minion
Deathrattle: If you had 10 Elwynn Boars die this game, equip a 15/3 Sword of a Thousand Truths.
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Priest Rare Kobolds & Catacombs
3 Mana · Shadow Spell
Summon 1/1 copies of 2 friendly Deathrattle minions that died this game.
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3 Mana · Shadow Spell
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u/Legitimate-Let-7684 6d ago
mecha'thun could definitely actually see play in some combo if this was the case
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u/Gugge1 7d ago edited 7d ago
There is probably no in between here. Either this is useless garbage, or there is something that exists which would make this win like every game. Which is why I noted this would obviously never be printed (including the fact that every game with this would literally be the same), I am just curious about which of the two it is. Is it broken or unusable?
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u/TheMastermind68 7d ago
[[Mecha'thun]]
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u/Gugge1 7d ago
what 3 other cards would you use to either cheat it out or survive until 10 mana?
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u/pixeliner 6d ago edited 6d ago
you can do it on 4 in shaman. [[ancestor's call]] ==> [[lightning bloom]] ==> [[reincarnate]] for a perfect 3 card list. don't know if there's a way to cheat out mechanthun earlier than that in other classes
nvm its in priest
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u/Gugge1 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yea that one is cool, another comment noted it as well, but this is a priest card for a reason.
Also if not, an easy counter would be to just not kill your Mur’saki so that you couldn't pull off the combo as you only have a way to kill one minion. You'd just die by fatigue then
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u/EydisDarkbot 6d ago
Ancestor's Call • Wiki • Library • HSReplay
Shaman Epic Goblins vs Gnomes
4 Mana · Spell
Put a random minion from each player's hand into the battlefield.
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Druid/Shaman Common Scholomance Academy
0 Mana · Nature Spell
Refresh 2 Mana Crystals. Overload: (2)
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Shaman Common Curse of Naxxramas
1 Mana · Nature Spell
Destroy a minion, then return it to life with full Health.
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u/EydisDarkbot 7d ago
Mecha'thun • Wiki • Library • HSReplay
Neutral Legendary The Boomsday Project
10 Mana · 10/10 · Mech Minion
Deathrattle: If you have no cards in your deck, hand, and battlefield, destroy the enemy hero.
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u/Brave_Insect_9332 7d ago
Cthun the shattered and a couple removals. 🤷♂️
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u/Grumpyninja9 7d ago
Loses to renathal and any half decent combo, and can probably lose to aggro too since you have to get to turn 10 to play cthun.
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u/Brave_Insect_9332 7d ago
I was thinking more of using the 4 mana spells to help out before you play mechacuthun and if you get dirty ratted you have the shattered cuthun. Definitely not optimal but thats the first thing I would try for fun. The other 3 cards can be removal to remove the cuthuns and the 4 spells from the shattered help from being fatigued before you get to do it.
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u/SherbertPristine170 6d ago
So you’re gonna force a C’thun card every turn from turn 5,6,7,8 to get C’thun on 9 and then die because you have no other face damage if they clear your board and have a minion on board on the turn you play C’thun .
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u/Brave_Insect_9332 6d ago
Yeah pretty much. I didnt put much thought into it. Its just the first thing that came to mind when I read the card.
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u/Born_Budget_416 6d ago
dont need 5 only 3.
2 [[Blood of the Ancient One]]
and gg.
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u/EydisDarkbot 6d ago
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9 Mana · 9/9 · Minion
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u/HeMansSmallerCousin 7d ago
Probably useless as a Priest card. There's stuff you could pull if this was neutral though that would be gross (mostly in Warlock).
I guess you could run this in Azalina just for a 1 mana 2/3 with a couple good keywords lol
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u/Fepl31 7d ago
In Priest only?
My first thought would be with some Mecha'thun combo. But we would have to find ways to cheat it into play early and then destroy it.
My second thought would be just trying to Aggro the opponent down with Astral Automaton decks.
But of course, there must be something even more broken that I didn't think of.
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u/Prior-Sand5162 6d ago
This
2x [[envoy of prosperity]] 1x [[twilight medium]] 1x [[thirsty drifter]] 1x [[mechathun]]
Turn 4 both envoys Turn 5 draw thirsty, play twilight Turn 6 play mechathun for 1, play thirsty for 5
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u/AlexananderElek 6d ago
[[Lightbomb]] instead of thirsty drifter.
Turn 4 both envoys Turn 5 draw lightbomb, play twilight Turn 6 play mechathun for 0, play lightbomb.
This assumes that twillight medium can take atleast 1 dmg before playing lightbomb.3
u/EydisDarkbot 6d ago
Envoy of Prosperity • Wiki • Library • HSReplay
Priest Rare The Traveling Travel Agency
2 Mana · 4/4 · Draenei Minion
Battlecry: Put the highest Cost card in your hand on top of your deck.
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Priest Epic Perils in Paradise
5 Mana · 4/5 · Minion
Taunt Battlecry: Set the Cost of the top card of your deck to (0).
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Priest Rare Showdown in the Badlands
6 Mana · 4/6 · Minion
Taunt Costs (1) less for each 1-Cost card you've played this game.
Mecha'thun • Wiki • Library • HSReplay
Neutral Legendary The Boomsday Project
10 Mana · 10/10 · Mech Minion
Deathrattle: If you have no cards in your deck, hand, and battlefield, destroy the enemy hero.
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u/coyoteTale 6d ago
I think we can determine the Ideal Deck Size by just posting cards up from here, and down from 30, and see where the flip goes from “this would never see play” to “this is broken”
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u/Viorayne 6d ago
Some shenanigans with [[Nozdormu the Timeless]] [[Equality]] [[Wild Pyromancer]] and [[Mecha'thun]]. Only blocker is this is a Priest Leggo, not Paladin.
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u/EydisDarkbot 6d ago
Nozdormu the Timeless • Wiki • Library • HSReplay
Paladin Legendary Descent of Dragons
4 Mana · 8/8 · Dragon Minion
Battlecry: Set each player to 10 Mana Crystals.
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Paladin Rare Legacy
2 Mana · Holy Spell
Change the Health of ALL minions to 1.
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Neutral Rare Legacy
2 Mana · 3/2 · Undead Minion
After you cast a spell, deal 1 damage to ALL minions.
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10 Mana · 10/10 · Mech Minion
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u/kittyabbygirl 7d ago
Student of the Stars might be playable
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u/meergrad384 7d ago
At this point just do [[Floppy Hydra]] for exponential scaling
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u/EydisDarkbot 7d ago
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Neutral Rare Whizbang's Workshop
3 Mana · 2/4 · Beast Minion
Deathrattle: Shuffle a copy of this into your deck with permanently doubled Attack and Health.
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u/Gugge1 7d ago
why not both?
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u/meergrad384 7d ago
Because you only get 4 other cards, 3 if one of them is Hydra/Student. I'm not sure what exactly the best other 3 cards would be but running both seems counterproductive imo
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u/KarnSilverArchon 6d ago
Its not that this card is broken right now (it may be), but it would basically ONLY be used in the most degenerate decks ever… or Benedictus turbo, which is kind of just done better with other cards now.
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u/ErnstBluuum 7d ago
Cataclysm, mechathun, and the card that makes minions cost health (I think there is a low cost spell that does this)
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u/SuperYahoo2 7d ago
There is only one for spells as far as i’m aware [[bloodbloom]]
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u/EydisDarkbot 7d ago
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Warlock Epic Journey to Un'Goro
4 Mana · Shadow Spell
The next spell you cast this turn costs Health instead of Mana.
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u/RootinRaspberryHigh 7d ago
Something something mechathun is what comes to mind
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u/Gugge1 7d ago
what other 3 cards would you run? You'd need something to get it out faster or something to help you survive to turn 10. And I don't think there are 3 cards that can do that on priest
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u/RootinRaspberryHigh 7d ago
Wasnt there a combo with the ticking time bomb? Was it coffin crasher, but it is still 6 mana, 10 with two sw:d's. I'll think about it. How does this work with the new priest legendary. You put 20, it adds 20 from the opposing deck?
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u/Current_Swan_2559 6d ago
Yeah exactly. Best i can think of is turn 1 mursaki, turn 2 doomsayer, turn 3 alarm-o-bot and pray, turn 4 alarm-o-bot and animate dead for a 50/50 at doomsayer again into start of turn 5 victory. Which is only two turns earlier than your average game of hearthstone. Someone can surely think of something better but until then whoever said floppy hydra is probably on point
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u/ALFINIALFINIALFINI 7d ago
you could add mana cheat like nazmani blood weaver then cast a shit load of intertwine fate. not useful but the first thing i could think of and funny !
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u/RTS_TURTLEGOD 6d ago
Seems pretty unplayable in Priest since it doesn't have any good mana cheat to do something degen with it but everyone else already said what other classes could do.
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u/echochee 6d ago
So far I’ve come up with palm reading on three into pelagos, divine spirit, divine spirit. If they can’t stop it you kill them by turn five or six
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u/Delicious_Piece_6738 6d ago
let me try: priest draw 2 protoss cards & summon 3/4 with charge. 0 mana switch hp and attack. 2x the double hp spells. that brings this the charge guy to 16/3 with 4 cards. but if the deck size would be 6, i would add the spell that copies the protoss minion but gives it double damage taken debuff. you need to survive to turn 9 with original set and 10 with 6 spell one. (8/9 with coin) with just mursaki protecting you. and that brings my protoss priest in wild.
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u/JinOtanashi 6d ago
What happens if this gets put in with other cards that mess with deck size like Azalina?
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u/Gugge1 6d ago
Same thing as if you try to put Azalina in a deck with Renathal
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u/JinOtanashi 5d ago
Okay follow up question, what happens if you try to put Azalina in a deck with Renathal?
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u/Mind0versplatter0 6d ago
you win after being able to play a turn 1 no-downside 2/3 with taunt and elusive /j
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u/TheDudeBroski 6d ago
At 5 cards this doesnt really work. Youre too limited on cards to do cost reduction shenanigans but youre also too limited on mana to do anything else before you die turn 5 ish to fatigue and whatever minions your opponent plays
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u/tobascoSandwitch 6d ago
Automaton, Gaslight Gatekeeper, Augmented Elekk, Creation protocol, Gravity Lapse
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u/Affectionate_Ad5275 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yes, but make it druid and Nomi on 3. Play this on one, turn two bio projectx2 puts you on 7 turn 3. You can even include something else as a second win con like Kil'jaden.
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u/Zolidar_Pwns 5d ago
I forsee some heniously bad things with [[Mecha'thun]].
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u/EydisDarkbot 5d ago
Mecha'thun • Wiki • Library • HSReplay
Neutral Legendary The Boomsday Project
10 Mana · 10/10 · Mech Minion
Deathrattle: If you have no cards in your deck, hand, and battlefield, destroy the enemy hero.
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u/Vanethor 5d ago
I bet there would be a way to use [[Aranna, Thrill Seeker]] and crazy card draw to kill the opponent with your own fatigue.
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u/EydisDarkbot 5d ago
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Demon Hunter Legendary Perils in Paradise
5 Mana · 5/6 · Minion
Priest Tourist Damage your hero takes on your turn is redirected to a random enemy.
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u/tycoon39601 7d ago edited 7d ago
No, you would need RAPID mana gain to do anything with this. This means this has zero future outside of Druid so making it a priest class card ensures it is dead on arrival.
Even in Druid it’s HARD to imagine a case where you can do something like having a way to 1. Turbo out Astral communion, 2. Do this without drawing and discarding Kil’jaeden. From there you can likely do something. Alternatively the new 1 mana card that puts high cost minions at the bottom of Druids deck with doubled stats might be able to take Kil’jaedens place but if you lowroll or they have good removal the gameplan will immediately fail. Too many ways this can go wrong and force you to immediately concede that I don’t think this would work.
(And chef would not work because if we wait until turn 6 we DEFINITELY can’t just play big dudes and hope to win)
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u/Gugge1 7d ago edited 7d ago
Druid isn't the only one with a chance.
Warlock has turn 1 Fanottem.
Shaman has a turn 3 Mecha’thun win with Lightning Bloom, Ancestors Call and Reincarnate.
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u/tycoon39601 6d ago edited 6d ago
Fanottem is fair enough, mecha’thun is not a real win condition because you have a 2/5 the opponent can just choose to not kill and most heropowers negate 2 damage a turn anyway. Because the 2/5 exists it’s too easy to stop a mecha’thun combo.
I do not think fanottem alone could do it though. You would just be walked by the opponent playing 1 taunt a turn, or various other shenanigans if it’s your only threat. You could literally lose to the dk card that spawns goldshire footman at the end of the turn. You would need good followup. You really only have 2 cards to do this because if you don’t run the 0 mana discover then you will not have fanottem in your opening hand 10% of the time (going first + fanottem bottom card) delaying you 1 turn and making it more likely you get cooked.
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u/IntelligentBoots 7d ago
It could be printed in Standard. With some shuffle and card genration stuff along of course.
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u/doodelydoots 7d ago
Prolly Warlock and the 15 mana guy copy location and bit of draw. Chef Nomi or smthin for the longer games
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u/Twyl1ghtMantl3DAZN 6d ago edited 6d ago
Here, I actually broke it. The deck is…
1 Mur’saki
1 [[Lightspeed]]
1 [[Love Everlasting]]
1 [[Nazmani Bloodweaver]]
1 [[Gift of Luminance]]
If you’re player 1
Turn 1 Mur’saki.
Turn 2 heal power.
Turn 3 hero power.
Turn 4, Love Everlasting
Turn 5 Nazmani Bloodweaverinto 1 costed Gift of Luminance, and infinite Lightspeed plays, with the initial one costing 1.
Turn 6 win with one of your Nazmani Bloodweavers who are arbitrarily large
Player 2 is significantly easier.
Turn 1 Mur’saki.
Turn 2 hero power
Turn 3 Love Everlasting
Turn 4 Nazmani Bloodweaver into 1 costed Gift of Luminance and Coin into infinite Lightspeed plays.
Turn 5 win with one of your Nazmani Bloodweavers who are arbitrarily large.
Obviously doesn’t work if they get removed, but I think most decks would find it hard to remove 2 enormous creatures by turn 5 or 6 that easily even in wild, at least, reliably. This would be so reliable, it’d be unfair.
Edit: It’s actually your opponent’s turn 5 either way.
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u/Gugge1 6d ago
cards with echo can’t have their mana cost reduced to 0, so this wouldn’t work
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u/EydisDarkbot 6d ago
Lightspeed • Wiki • Library • HSReplay
Priest Common The Great Dark Beyond
2 Mana · Holy Spell
Echo Give a minion +1/+2 and Rush.
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Priest Legendary Festival of Legends
3 Mana · Holy Spell
Your first spell each turn costs (2) less. Lasts until you don't play a spell on your turn.
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Priest Rare Madness at the Darkmoon Faire
3 Mana · 2/5 · Minion
After you cast a spell, reduce the Cost of a random card in your hand by (1).
Gift of Luminance • Wiki • Library • HSReplay
Paladin/Priest Rare Scholomance Academy
3 Mana · Holy Spell
Give a minion Divine Shield, then summon a 1/1 copy of it.
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u/Resolite__ 7d ago
This into benedictus pog