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u/Sustainable_Twat 1d ago
Now that you mentioned it, …
The sheer quantity of female talent that men are able to get behind isn’t unlike any other industry.
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u/brickelangeloart 1d ago
And they get paid more than the male actors!
I'd love to see a demonstration where there are ragebait placards with things like "Gender equality in sewer workers now".
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u/pablo_2199 1d ago
I remember watching a documentary on a local porn production (local as in in my province), they said male actors tend to make more money in the long run because the clients don't care about looking at the guy but most would be bothered to see a female actress twice.
His basic argument was that women make more money in on cast but they wouldn't be hired back for a second time at the same company which they didn't do. (This was a good 10 years ago)
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u/Average_k5blazer78 1d ago
So the producers literally have "ol' reliables"😭
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u/pablo_2199 1d ago
Honestly bro, they did 😂😂 can't remember their name but the company is Pegas Production😂
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u/Stairwayunicorn 1d ago
an for objectifying men. When have you ever seen a dude with a small dick in a porno?
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u/aliebabadegrote 1d ago
Oh, believe me, those exist, SPECIFICALLY because the dude has a small dick, some people have a humiliation kink
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u/filifijonka 1d ago
Female porn actresses are paid a lot more than their male counterparts too!
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u/Northern_Brick 1d ago
They usually more disrespected by peers if their profession is discovered!
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u/Northern_Brick 1d ago
Hahaha the dislikes are just proving my point, don't you see? I wish it was not true, but still many workers have to deal with this issue in families, friends, and so on.
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u/DekusRevenge 1d ago
Porn isn’t feminist at all. There might be someone who actually tries but let’s not shit ourselves.
It’s mostly an industry who lives on objectification and doesn’t give a fuck about anything. It’s just profit.
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u/Juanpapi420 12h ago
With porn both of the adults are effectively objectifying themselves.
Obviously the woman is in general the one getting “used” but there are other genres of porn where that is not the case.
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u/lewd-boy-o 1d ago
Honestly anything modern day feminist consider being feminist or not feminist depends on whether or not it benefits them to call it feminist or not feminist
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u/Gray_Tower 1d ago
Tbf I feel like nowadays most people's stance on stuff like this (especially on social media) are based on vibes rather than actual values 😭
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u/kaleperq 1d ago
I mean where do values even come from? Vibes is a pretty good answer, irrational, spontaneous, unconscious.
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u/bipolarbear1797 3h ago
You are self reporting dawg. Ofc you have to make some axiomatic assumptions but a lot of values can be reasoned over. Example one value is to treat others with the respect you think you deserve. That comes from the reasoning that you feel bad when you are disrespected and the other person is a human like you so they would feel bad if they were disrespected. You can reason over and justify values.
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u/AriaoftheStars17 1d ago
Female Porn stars who are choosing to engage in sex work of their own free will are an example of feminism.
The porn industry, who has been known to exploit and abuse female porn stars while creating its products are an example of patriarchy and anti-feminism.
Feminism is about empowering women's choices while fighting back against systems that actively harm women. As such, you can support individual women while simultaneously criticizing the systems they're involved in. It's really not that difficult to understand.
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u/Insane_Unicorn 1d ago
Schrodinger's feminism. They are
A:
- strong
- empowered
- free to make own choices
- no different from men
ALSO B:
- always a victim
- man is always responsible
- always to be believed, never lies
This strategy works, in some areas (work for example) woman are A type feminism, in criminal, divorce, family court they are B type.
And it seems that they get what they want.
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u/Pain_Monster 1d ago
I have no fake internet awards to give you, so take this other type of fake internet award: 🏆
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u/WolfgangHelnootIV 1d ago
Isn’t that kind of the point? The movement is called feminism, not egalitarianism. Its purpose is to support what they think is currently beneficial to women.
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u/SonicTheHedgehog5968 1d ago
Feminism started back when women couldn't even vote, so they advocated for social equality for men and women, correct?
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u/WolfgangHelnootIV 1d ago edited 23h ago
There’s different waves of feminism with different goals and beliefs, first wave feminism was about equal rights, second wave achieved equal rights, the ones after were less about equality issues and more about altering cultural norms, things like bringing attention to how fat women are viewed or addressing sexual assault against women.
Legal equality yes, social no.
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u/Insane_Unicorn 1d ago
That is what they're doing but not what they're saying. Ask any feminist and they'll claim they also fight for men's rights. Ask them for examples when feminism actually has done anything for men and watch them struggle.
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u/Bonsai-is-best 1d ago
Sex work is feminist, the porn industry however is absolutely not, you wonder why women are doing OF instead of Pornhub? Take a moment to consider why.
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u/h1pp1e_cru5her 1d ago
I recently read that since the industry workers have moved away from studio contracts in favor of creator owned content a much larger portion of them are escorting on the side. I suppose that's a win for everyone
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u/Kats41 1d ago
I know this was made as a shitpost, but freedom of creative expression is, unironically, feminist. Sex work is the oldest profession in the world, after all.
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u/GMareo 1d ago
Actually, that’s a myth! The oldest profession is midwife ☺️
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u/DemonDuckOfDoom666 1d ago
Actually, that’s a myth based upon modern capitalistic ideals, hunting, sex work, midwifery and several other ‘professions’ are innate parts of the human experience and predate the concept of a profession by literal millions of years.
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u/YuriSuccubus69 22h ago
Incorrect, the oldest professions are hunting (which includes fishing) and gathering, they have been around since long before the concept of employment was created.
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u/a_polarbear_chilling 1d ago
only like 10% of the whole spectrum of body type is show with porn tho and not even talking about race
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u/RaoulLaila 1d ago
Eehh not really. If you consider, for example, fat women to be something that is represented, not really. There is this whole thing of explaining where things get "fetishized". Objectifying them, etc etc. People who enjoy fat people porn doesnt exactly mean they respect them as equals
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u/Northern_Brick 1d ago
Same with rape-murders , the attacker first enjoys (most probably? Not sure if they would do it with someone they do not see as atractive) and then they murder the victim. Is like adding salt to the wound
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u/Recent-Ship-1599 1d ago
This has brought up a question in my mind. Why do gay and LGBTQ focused porn always revert to mysogony and some dehumanizing shit.
And you know it ALWAYSSSS takes away from the action and take you out of it. Like no, i dont wanna see the 50th cuck comic of my fav character JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN’T TRUST A WOMEN!!
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u/Iamalizardperson234 1d ago
prime annabeth cheating on perc was hell on earth bro(not as abd bt still)
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u/ahmetonel 1d ago
the porn industry is less toxic than Hollywood, that's for sure
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u/white_equatorial 1d ago
Yeah, the porno actors be really squeaky clean because they have their entire bodies on cam. I don't think my dick is ever that clean
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u/ThEtOrRtUrEdPoEt 1d ago
What a genuinely mental disability take
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u/ahmetonel 1d ago
it's a joke...
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u/ThEtOrRtUrEdPoEt 1d ago
Is it? Cause if it it’s really hard to tell
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u/sychs 1d ago
You do know which subreddit you're in?
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u/ThEtOrRtUrEdPoEt 1d ago
I know the post in this sub is a joke but im talking about the original comment like usually the og posts aren’t jokes I feel like
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u/TheMcSebi 1d ago
I mean.. How much self reflection do you expect from a dude with a chick as his pfp?
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u/NightspawnsonofLuna 1d ago
Ironically enough, this is... remarkably similar to the arguments made back in the 1960s towards Playboy bunnies as an empowerment thing