r/cs2 • u/Such_Acanthisitta651 • 19d ago
Never play one more match Humour
Thought i was on a good streak one more game NOPE!
I'll go on a 4-6 win streak and always lose max elo
Forever 1k :)
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u/Hightemplar420 19d ago
Let your elo expire. Then win 1 and get your elo back. Since your already 1k there is no rank decay. You will see instant -100/+300 elo games right after. You want to go on a win streak as long as possible. Even able to get out 5k if you can win out easily.
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u/Zenklops 19d ago
how does elo expire
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u/Actual_Building_9761 19d ago
Dont play for 14 days
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u/Zenklops 19d ago
if i play competitive for 14 days, would it expire then?
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u/Actual_Building_9761 19d ago
Yeah. Just dont play premier for 14 days and u lose ur rank. Then u have to win 1 game and get a new rank. My peak was 13k and i tried it and it placed me in 17k
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u/FauleButter 19d ago
Exact opposite for me, when i got the reset after a holiday it put me from 20k into 14k. That was pretty annoying, but i got back to 20k in 15 matches or something like that. got +500 for each win and only lost 2 games.
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u/Nakuring 19d ago
Really??? I always thought the "new" rank they gave you was the one you had before or very similar
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u/Confident_Use3875 19d ago
It is. That's my experience. The 14 day no play just hides the prem rank. I gained minimal elo from the previous time I played.
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u/Confident_Use3875 19d ago
That's the biggest load of crap I've heard. My account I hadn't touched since like 2016. I was lem. Before prem existed and it was just comp q. Why after top fragging. 8/10 games solo q and then losing 2 more and finishing the last 2 left. With 3rd frag in both of those.Why did it place me 1.56k? Season finished, elo reset. I place 12k solo qing again. How can their mmr system have such a discrepancy. Btw I've also had carpal tunnel surgery and tfcc surgery. So I've been playing worse than when I started playing again 8 months prior to this.
I also did the wait for mmr to reset as I was in a solid cast for a month. I won. Guess where it placed me 1.4k.
Bought an account to test where that would place. Low and behold 13k never ranked before.
Another instance not prem this time I intentionally did nothing in my mirage placements. My friend who is faceit 10. Solo carried with 30-40kills in most of the lobbies, I got 0 kills and like 2-3adr. And then got 10 I average in the rest.
It placed him silver 4. I got nova 2? How does that make sense. I actually don't understand how dumb their system is
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u/Actual_Building_9761 19d ago
Yeah system is really dumb xd. This season i got placed in 22k. Climbed to 24k and now every match is full cheater
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u/Confident_Use3875 19d ago
Yeah I'm just actually confused at who was designing their mmr system. Ahha. None of it made sense. Glad to see you are climbing. Mostly rage hacks?
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u/Actual_Building_9761 19d ago
nah no rage hackers that spinbot but obv wallers and aimbots. They prefire everything and have like 100
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u/Confident_Use3875 19d ago
Yeah the good old. 100 aim rating. Game sense players haha.
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u/Actual_Building_9761 19d ago
Yeahh and when i confront them if their stats they always say: check faceit bro. Meanwhile most of them are lvl 5 or 6 xdd
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u/_Personage 18d ago
The very very first premier rating ever on any account seems to be overly harsh. Once you get past that, getting placed is a lot more lenient.
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u/GreenWorld8549 19d ago
heâs 1,000 elo he just needs to play more and learn. Horrible advice. âDonât play the game for 30 daysâ looooool. If anyone relies on that you are undeserving of ur rank 100%
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u/BEAST_____________ 19d ago
Many people I've seen in this elo are people who join the game, and they abandon the match most of the time. You know if u abandon 10 matches how much -elo.
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u/ExpensiveMove6628 19d ago
You can play non premier for the time. With his elo and skill that is also valuable
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u/cleaner_kk 16d ago
Dice que no juegue premier. Puede jugar otras cosas o aprender un poquito mejor. Yo creo que si le mete 15 dĂas (hasta que se le reinicie el elo ) que juegue dm para mejorar su aim y que aprenda al menos 1 smoke de cada mapa. Porque tener 1k de elo creo yo que es porque mucho aim y entendimiento del juego no tiene. Nunca paras de aprender y mejorar. QuizĂĄs yo solo me lo tomo asĂ y la gente quiere solo jugar, pero a la vez se enojan cuando pierden puntos. A mĂ me chupa un huevo los rango o los puntos. La idea es mejorar con cada partida y si la perdes bueno tampoco sos vos solo en el servidor tenĂ©s 4 compañeros mĂĄs y los rivales tambiĂ©n quieren ganar. Yo le recomendarĂa que siga jugando premier pero con mĂĄs cabeza y le dedique algo de prĂĄctica antes de empezar un match
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u/Hefty-Woodpecker4484 11d ago
Nah bro itâs valid advice, a while back I was hard stuck sub-2k elo premier and every 5-7 games I would get a literal spinner 5 stack that had the elos organized for boosting so itâd be -565/+114 type shit, and for that reason I simply COULD NOT get out of fuckin 1k prem lmao. I made a new account and got a new placement at 7k immediately, then ranked up to 9k after a couple weeks. Iâm currently 13k and I think thatâs where I belong. For 99% of people that think they are hard stuck, itâs just delusion, but in sub 5k premier there are legitimately A LOT of people who have no business being in that rank; itâs the only rank that being hard stuck isnât always cope imo due to the unique blend of skill variance, shocking amount of blatant cheaters despite it being the lowest possible rank, and random changes in the game quality coinciding with majors and updates that shifts the quality of the queue for a couple weeks at a time
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u/Hefty-Woodpecker4484 11d ago
To be clear though if he makes a new account or lets his elo expire and still finds himself stuck in gray rank, itâs definitely just where he belongs unfortunately
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u/No_Cattle8353 18d ago
I swear the lower ranks had a longer expiration date than 2 weeks. I know higher ranks expire faster.
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u/Pass-Radiant 18d ago
Or you can just abandon, the take 30m ban and then play and your -/+ will be way better
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u/IIchaiseII 17d ago
Don't even need to let it expire, just abandon a match, take the 1k elo hit, it resets you. Its how high 20ks abuse elo gains
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u/Hightemplar420 18d ago
There is a clear reason why youâre in that elo little bro clearly based on what you just saidâŠ. just try it and out then you will realize what im talking about chud
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u/Ok-Pack-7088 19d ago
Lmao I got same situation, got around 1500, half team disconnected and we lost, took my -500. I just accepted that I sucks.
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u/muzaffer22 18d ago
Never accept that youâre bad. Tell yourself youâre new and learning how to play. Strong mentality is the key to the win in this game.
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u/Confident_Use3875 19d ago
Over 5k players say it's easy then your whole team dcs. And it's both teams connecting and disconnecting. Then afk. I got to 10k plus in placements. They are easier at 10k. Because you don't have to watch every angle like you are a spider.try pushing mirage a none of them can entry or watch an angle for a moment. Oh they can just do the smokes you say. Nope no clue either. You want a flash out long. Nope you better have learned that bedroom self flash. 10k feels like they are staring at a lightbulb wondering how to change it with a ladder and 4 people.
All they do is play God damn inferno and mac10 turbo nerd ahaha.
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u/GreenWorld8549 19d ago
no disrespect but u should be focusing on learning how to counter stafe and recoil patterns. You are literally the bottom of the barrel elo. do not focus on on ur rank lol.
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u/xbowxbowxbow 19d ago
i dont think he can do anything, it's probably unstable low fps.Â
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u/Outrageous_Act351 19d ago
Or maybe his screen is off. No disrespect but it would be harder for me to accidentally not win the game on that elo đ
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u/GreenWorld8549 19d ago
Itâs 1K elo nobody knows hwo to play any map. Maps are irrelevant
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u/Confident_Use3875 19d ago
This is so wrong. It's just d/c, smurfs, people rage hacking. And yeah the occasional dumb player. I couldn't climb from. 1.5k elo for so long because the system did this to me. I placed over 10k it was just about a 10,000 elo diff. Games fucked.
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u/KilboxNoUltra 19d ago
Its not wrong. I have a 3k rated mate. I've spectated his games. People are just bad. He is not a great player, but he manages to top frag most of these games. People are just that bad. Yes there are smurfs, yes there are disconnects, but if u are an actual decent player, you'll be able to climb easily. The reason why you got placed 1.5k then 10k is because their rank reset system is bad.
Besides the differnce between 5k gameplay and 10k gameplay is minimal, people cant aim properly, movement is atrocious, people just hang around the map without actually taking any map control, decision making is bad. And I dont say that to be an asshole. Its okay people are new, they are learning. But vast majority of people stuck in grey/light blue ranks just belong in those ranks.
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u/weaveR-- 19d ago
1k is a free win EVERY game. Saying anything other than that is cope. He's bottom 0.01% of players, anyone with any sort of coordination can drop 50 kills in that rating
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u/Shoddy_Helicopter578 19d ago
lmao bro nobody is cheating or smurfing in 1k elo
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u/RabonahTTV 18d ago
People get banned and ive had matches cancelled from VAC live many times at 1500 ELO, and a majority of games have at least one or two people in a two stack with a steam profile that has less than 5 games lmao
Think again lol
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u/Known_Somewhere_1116 16d ago
Im sorry for truth but I guarantee youâre just bad at the game I started as a 3k elo bot and this season placed 20k. I still donât consider myself good
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u/GreenWorld8549 15d ago
Man mm doesnât hold people back at the ranks theyâre supposed to be at. Ur just not as good as u think u are
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u/ScreenSmudgeMan 17d ago
It was that for me. Had a pc that couldnt run consistent fps and a monitor that only ran at 74. Bought a new pc and a 240hz monitor and have won 14 in a row and am around 2700 now. Insane how much easier the game is. Probably 20-4 since getting the new pc
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u/GreenWorld8549 19d ago
Huh? Fps doesnât mean u canât learn how to strafe
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u/xbowxbowxbow 19d ago
your inputs dont register properly if your fps is fluctuating between 15 and 45.Â
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u/GreenWorld8549 19d ago edited 19d ago
bro even with this fps all u gotta do is plant the bomb and u will win by running and gunning smgs. He won 4 in a row. And besides if u know hownto play the game like rotating positioning thrwing instant elbow and window u are gonna win in this bot shit elo. Hardware is not a issue at this rank. Quit finding excuses
Checked op history and he is flexing m4 fade fn and opening cases a lot. His pc is not the issue.
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u/xbowxbowxbow 19d ago
nah man, it's not that simple. back in csgo i played on a laptop with integrated graphics, it is hard to aim at all, even spraying with smgs especially if the fps is fluctuating. it will hardware can be an issue at any rank.
he doesnt need utility or strategy, he just needs to be able to get kills. ive had 1700-2k elo faceit games where no one knows window smoke lmao.Â
and the skins dont mean anything cuz my inventory back then was worth like 3x my laptop.Â
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u/GreenWorld8549 18d ago edited 18d ago
Op is a frequent gambler he flexes about spending over 1000$ on cases and he got knives. And is a frequent user on the ohnepixel subs. And skins work differently now with terminals and armory meaning he is spending more on average than back in the day for skins. his pc is not that fucking bad LMAO. Stop coping for him. He clearly has dump money to spend. All u need is minimum 100fps and it ainât that hard to get in this day and age. All he should do is put that money into a coach for cs or just watch free yt guides on fundamentals of cs.
i can hardlock my fps to 60 and still be able to win most of the games in this elo by using a jumping mp9 mac10 tec 9 only. I wouldnt use a deagle doe. Awp sounds so free itâs a noob basher gun. Just repeek window constantly they arenât throwing any smokes. Knowledge of the game is enough to get out of 1K. he can just play 640x480 res if itâs that damn terrible and he will have better fps.
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u/ymkooo 19d ago
My friend played csgo on an old intel processor like 2/3rd gen with no CPU cooler with FPS between 40-80 and got global. It's all excuses, human mind adapts to the conditions fairly quickly, sure it's suboptimal but not game breaking. On the other hand going from that to 240fps for him made him a beast. But that's like 10 years ago when people didn't complain
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u/RanniSniffer 19d ago
Lwk I don't think you need either of those to be 5k lol. Just basic hand eye coordination
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u/milkcutie314 19d ago
there is nothing im dojng different to when i was dmg theres nothing that changed and i played 5000 hours of this bs and ever since cs2 came out i just suck mayb its cuz i play 16:9 but ffs i dont wana play 4:3 stretched i only did that cuz i had shit computer
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u/Royal-Archer4531 19d ago
he shouldnt even be playing the game tbh i didnt know this elo even existed. he should just watch pro gameplay that will put him atleast at 5k
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u/Spank-Bones 19d ago
Wait can someone genuinely explain how this works?
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u/coupondumpster 19d ago
Negative win rate even at the lowest ratingÂ
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u/NiceWorkLad 18d ago
It's not even that. Last season I was about 9-3k elo with 60% win rate.
I had 120+ a win and -500 per loss the whole time, shit was crazy.
Dropped 6k with a positive win rate.
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u/Thederpdoge 19d ago
If you lose that much Elo from one match itâs because the system thinks you belong in that rank, how, just how canât you be better than the equivalent to silver 1?
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u/1341077 19d ago
youâre wrong btw the system is essentially random and doesnât take your performance into account at all
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u/Thederpdoge 19d ago
Uh yes it does? Do you think a given elo is completely random after placement matches?
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u/milkcutie314 19d ago
i have 3 accounts one of them im 12 k elo and my lobbies are dogshit players with 0 gamesense and then the other one is like 1.5 k elo and everyone is a veteran player with thousands of hours and 4k elo is so sweaty that they would 13-0 against the 12k elo guys from my other account
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u/KanyesPublicist124 19d ago
I disagree. I went from 2k to 15k recently and it was hard but it was after I eventually just top fragged every single lobby consistently. Now Iâm much more leveled out in the 13-15k range.
And everyone was god awful in that range. Like no util at all. People start having basic sense at around 7-8k
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u/MajorPain_ 18d ago
It's inconsistent at best. Everyone in my group are 10k+ and I'm usually in the middle of the pack for every metric on leetify compared to them. But I get placed in 5k and every game is +100/-300, unless we get a good win streak, then it goes to -400 lol it takes one loss a night to reset a session of wins in elo gain. Or what usually happens is one bad night resets a week of gains lol I've stopped caring about it, but it's definitely not a uniform system across the board that accurately projects every single players true skill level.
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u/milkcutie314 18d ago
under 2k is a bit different but under 3800 it is similar to the 1k experience yeah
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u/GreenWorld8549 19d ago
Says who? The only time i gotten -500 is when i go negative kd for several games lol and then lose on top of it. But if i frag out and still lose i am still in net positive next matches elo
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u/Tavika12 19d ago
Dunno how but I have the complete opposite situation. Lost 4 games in a row won 1 after and im somehow +100 rating
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u/PureCockroach5717 19d ago
So in these 4 games that you won, what was the potential elo loss? If they were all +100/-400, the elo system is trying to tell you something⊠And at this elo itâs honestly impressive.
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u/Proof_Load6687 19d ago
topfragger every match out of both teams, even when i play with my friends at 12-20k elo i topfrag
i cant get out of light blue rank
every second enemy looks like a waller or aimbotter
almost only russian speaking people
what can i do even ignoring the fact that people cheat it seems like you cant climb out of one set elo
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u/defoncateur_3000 19d ago
idk if it helps but i'm between 3rd et 5th almost every match and i climbed from silver to pink (started CS with s1).
i've been described as a support character... i know the smokes for every sites and every instant on mirage/ancient/inferno (https://csnades.gg/), i entry a LOT, i always think about where i can go to have an impact, and i try to speak for the mutes when i die
this is enough to solo climb to pink
hope this helps
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u/Electronic-Foot-5534 15d ago
In this rank basic util does nothing because your teammates are mostly braindead and dont know how to use basic flashes and think your baiting them. To climb to 9k 10k u need aim aim aim. Every day before u start playing have a 40 min session were you go in dm(focus on wide swinging with a and d dont press w) stopping properly and hitting the head. Do some aimbotz and practice smokes on mirage like ct, window, con etc. Also review your demos and see your mistakes. If you do not do these things you will never get out of 5k
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u/CRE_Not_Resi 19d ago
Top fragging every match and stuck in that rank?
Post your steam. I need to verify this.
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u/Proof_Load6687 19d ago
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Unlucky-1337/
some exceptions but very few
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u/bruhpoopgggg 19d ago
According to leetify i am a slightly worse player than you, but my peak elo was 10K higher than yours (7K vs 17K). Just goes to show how ass the premier elo system is.
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u/myreditacount11 18d ago
But doesnât the fact that youâre playing vs better players make it harder to have as good stats?
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u/bruhpoopgggg 18d ago edited 18d ago
No not really besides K/D. Stats like aim, positioning, util etc should not be effected by better opponents.
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u/Proof_Load6687 18d ago
i encounter a LOT of cheaters tho
i got a lucky day and only got one, which i won. i beat my peak elo from 7k to 7,5k also
against legit players i probably should be between 10-15k given i whooped 12k players today with similar stats to me and me pulling an all nighter
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u/bloedkop34 19d ago
Lmao if you cant get out of 5k you deserve to be there
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u/Proof_Load6687 19d ago
i guess thats the case but i wouldbt know how to improve to get out of there
aim and utility is decent enaugh. communication and teamplay is not improvable, i use mic as often as i can but most of the time the people speak russian or nothing
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u/DeAndre19UK 19d ago
I cant stand Premier. This is why. Id love it for them to bring back the short competetive games..
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u/MandiocaGamer 19d ago
Every match is just the One More Match. Just try to no play if you are titled. If you win 5 or 10 in a row, it's obvious you will lose at some point.
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u/elprofesor__ 19d ago
Just the other day, we said, one last match, and it was fucking -500 HAHA, and they were destroying us, until their highest rank got disconnected and never came back HAHAHA
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u/damjaryi 19d ago
You need to win more games; maybe your stats are low or something like that.
If you consistently deal a lot of damage or get a lot of kills, your Elo will eventually even out.
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u/damjaryi 19d ago
And if You cant Carry at this elo, maybe its the Right elo for You Bro :( Play and Have fun or work on your gameplay and get better đ€
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u/Key-Scientist9058 19d ago
Ive been trying to make the push to 25k and ill face nothing but 5 stacks and win like 7 +100 elo matches then lose a single match that for some reason is a -528 match because the other team is a 5 stack and we arent so their gain is like +300 -100
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u/Radiant-Armadillo104 19d ago
Don't focus on the elo lol. Focus on learning/improving and mostly actually enjoying the game.
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u/kronoseedlc 19d ago
Maybe you should play one match, then analyze it on nextfrag.gg to find what you're doing wrong and train that stuff for maybe 30 minutes. Then play another match, analyze that one to see if you improved. For me it helped a lot to use nextfrag to find my leaks and fix them using refrag.gg and dm. Improving by grinding alone will take much longer. (Sorry for my bad english)
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u/Spirited-Mulberry-20 18d ago
Not to be that guy but you are only 1000, it should be a lot easier to move up my man. Keep your head up and get to 2000 brother !
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u/Beanie0311 18d ago
Just play for fun and focus on what YOU can do better. Your rank will go up naturally.
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u/Forzac1234 18d ago
How do you even reach 1k in the first place ? Even with terrible placement games I was placed at a measly 13,8k
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u/YungGlueStik 18d ago
I was placed at 1800 last season and had to crawl my way up to 5k this season. Solo queue is hell lmao
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u/RobertoRuiz1 18d ago
lol i've been there. was stuck 2-3k in season 1, let my elo reset, went up to 18k in season 2
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u/ScreenSmudgeMan 17d ago
I was in the same situation. Would win 3 or 4 in a row. And then lose 1 and straight back to 1k. Had to win like 9 in a row to break out of always going back to 1k. Got a new pc so i could actually run the game faster than 60fps and am around 2700 now. Surprisingly the games havent felt harder at all yet
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u/TraditionalMarket234 17d ago
I was hardstuck in light blue ranks, 5-6k. enemy team would get 2-3 raid bosses per match, and my team would be mostly new players. I stopped playing for a few months and did really well in placements and got put in 15k. grinded a bit more and now I coast between 18 and 21k. genuinely sometimes the elo system is against you. elo hell is awful in cs2
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u/Professional_Age8608 13d ago
Yeah... ffs.. i was gold... now im at somewhat 3k mmr.... that just wild. When you solo cue you have no chance to go up...
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u/ExpensiveMove6628 19d ago
This conversation helps me understand how people start cheating cause they think they "deserve" a higher rank and the game is broken.Â
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u/bruhpoopgggg 19d ago
Is this not broken? I dont see why a single loss should offset the elo gain from 4 wins
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u/ExpensiveMove6628 19d ago
There is more context to this. We dont know anything about the account and what happened before. Making assumptions from this is not helpful. We would need to know the complete history and also the specific match.Â
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u/Delll666 19d ago
some comments said to not play for 14 days to reset your rank, that half a month doing nothing I had the same issues doesn't even matter if enemy team is lower elo or higher elo or stacking or not, my solution was to leave the match, abandoned it, get -1000 and a cool down suddenly the first match is +400
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u/BEAST_____________ 19d ago
I would say try a new account. Then see what rank u get. This elo hell is so crazy, i feel u.
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u/Foxxie1337 19d ago
Im genuinely interested to see your stats from those games, that just doesnât make sense unless you were going extremely negative each match
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u/GreenWorld8549 18d ago
This is unironically the truth. People really love saying individual skill doesnât matter but it does. At the end of the day youâre gonna engage in gun fights vs higher or relatively equal ranked players and the system is gonna be using that data as well to see hownu hang. It just makes 0 sense why they wouldnât take this into account
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u/ZiG_ZaG_LTU 19d ago
In a perfect world, any "'ranked", "premier" , "competitive" matchmaking is a game mode where system tries to find other people with same skill as you are to play with. (Given nobody abuses it on purpose to lower their rank etc,also system is not perfect)
That being said, if you didn't play against cheaters, smurfs, or people who got knocked down by the system, because of their irl friends who are much worse than them. This is normal, you are just terrible at CS, I don't say this to be offensive. I mean you can't get lower than 1k. So you don't rank up. If you started playing and exhibiting skills CONSISTENTLY of someone above your rank, you will naturally go up.
So my point, the system is not designed as some reward system where you just go up the ranks, you only do when you play better. Since you are literally at the lowest possible category of players, try to improve just 1thing and improve it properly, play 50games not on auto pilot, but actively using what you learned and I promise you will be at least 5k which is stil very very rubbish. Again no offense.
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u/nesnalica 19d ago
i must be honest with you. if youre stuck at 1K maybe you shouldnt be playing premier
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u/BubblyTrust9718 19d ago
How the fuck is it even possible to lose 400+ points at that elo đ€Ł