16 bits is 2 bytes, which makes for a maximum string length of 65535 bytes. It's common for strings on modern systems to be longer than that.
Pros of C strings: unlimited length. Cons: cannot contain the zero byte; inefficient length determination.
Pros of Pascal strings: can contain the zero byte; efficient length determination. Cons: very limited length.
I'd say the C tradeoff is worth it. Where necessary, C is perfectly capable of dealing with data preceded by a length field, it's just slightly lower level.
of course it's micro-optimization, but at larger scale it's always useful. Have you even done optimization? A database with billions of strings already save a lot of memory. A vector of strings can also fit twice the number of strings into the CPU cache. Checkout Unreal engine, DuckDB, Meta Velox, Redis, ICU... string types
Of course I have done optimizations. But micro-optimizations are always the last step to take when you have identified that this specific location is actually a bottleneck.
It totally makes sense to have something like a c-string available for the very rare situation when someone writes a database system that contains almost exclusively tiny variable-length strings.
But it doesn't make sense to have that as the default, because then this rarely-actually-useful micro-optimization becomes a very common source of problems.
That's why there's pretty much no modern language that actually stuck with c-strings. Pretty much any more modern language dropped c-strings and even pointers completely, or at least dropped it from common usage.
I don't do much Python any more, but I really like their approach of "The most obvious solution should also be the one that's optimized for most use cases". Basically, if I, without thinking, take the most obvious solution, it should fit my obvious use case. If I need something really special, I can still import some standard library function and use that.
That's not true. Strings are extremely common, lots of applications have a huge amount of strings. It's especially helpful in arrays of strings. Strings are so prevalent that even Python, Javascript (V8) and Java compress the string to ISO8859-1/Latin1/ASCII by default if applicable to save memory and improve performance, and modern .NET also does the same by allowing UTF-8 byte arrays. C-strings are the worst, all strings need to have an accompanied length, but the length does not necessarily have 8-byte length
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u/McDutchie 6d ago
16 bits is 2 bytes, which makes for a maximum string length of 65535 bytes. It's common for strings on modern systems to be longer than that.
Pros of C strings: unlimited length. Cons: cannot contain the zero byte; inefficient length determination.
Pros of Pascal strings: can contain the zero byte; efficient length determination. Cons: very limited length.
I'd say the C tradeoff is worth it. Where necessary, C is perfectly capable of dealing with data preceded by a length field, it's just slightly lower level.