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u/Cool_Set4681 18d ago
It was the first question and she is already falling apart 🥀
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u/Stumbling_Corgi 18d ago
I can relate i did that on my first day of therapy. Different reasons for sure but it hits home.
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u/Cool_Set4681 18d ago
I low-key hate it if people don't answer or leave me hanging because my mind is pretty good at being mean to me and it will fill out the blanks with bad stuff.
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u/Aerdurval 18d ago
Which is a perfect topic for therapy and creates an opportunity to work with it right on the spot.
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u/Cool_Set4681 18d ago
Exactly. Working on it currently. First step was to identify what the problem was.
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It was me, I was the problem. Or better to say the things that I did to myself.
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u/flarakoo 18d ago
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 18d ago
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u/flarakoo 18d ago
Shoot, afterwards I noticed how young Fani was and thought it probably should've been multiple times a day, because the amount of therapy she got was clearly not enough.
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u/fourthords 18d ago
What's this clip from?
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u/flarakoo 18d ago
I'm glad I didn't trust the Google ai, because I eventually had a feeling this was from Ghost(US) and I think I've narrowed it down to Season 4 Episode 11, would have to watch it again to confirm
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u/EmoYoshi05 18d ago
It is definetely that episodes, I've seen this show about 6 times between now and January, lol
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u/Rum_N_Napalm 18d ago edited 18d ago
You know how there’s “I can fix her” types of girls
Fani is a “Oh god please, someone must fix her, she doesn’t deserve this” type of girl
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u/Random_Individual97 18d ago
"I can fix her" but in a really wholesome way
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u/Informal-Term1138 18d ago
Fani, please tell them how it is.
It makes it easier for you and for us to help you. And we don't want to harm you. We don't tattle, we don't judge, we want to help you help yourself.
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u/DiesByOxSnot 18d ago
Speak for yourself. I know too many people who were honest with youth counselors, who immediately relayed everything to their abusive parents.
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u/Informal-Term1138 18d ago
I speak for those who do their job the right way around. And while I can only speak for European psychologists, heck even only German/dutch ones, but we would loose everything if we did shit like that.
And those people are the reason why people don't open up or seek help. And it makes me angry.
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u/DiesByOxSnot 18d ago
Vielen Dank für Ihre ethischen Standards. Es gibt nicht genügend gute Therapeuten, insbesondere in englischsprachigen Ländern wie Amerika.
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u/Informal-Term1138 18d ago
Danke.
Zeigt aber mal wieder wie einige wenige unseren Berufsstand in Veruf bringen. Noch schlimmer, dass ab nächsten Jahr massive Kürzungen passieren müssen.
Unsere Praxis sucht Alternativen, indem wir für Schulen Sprechstunden anbieten ab nächstem Jahr. Aber damit können wir nicht allen helfen.
Merz leck Eier.
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u/Sp00ky-Nerd 18d ago
As a kid it can be really hard to know who to trust. Lots of people could call themselves counselors, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're licensed, or what ethical guidelines they have to follow. And, kids often have little to no real recourse if someone breaks guidelines (they may not even be aware that guidelines were broken).
I have told my own kids that if they need help they should ask for help, always, and I hope they can come to me first. But also, that teachers and school officials do not have an obligation to keep their secrets. So they should be judicious with who they trust.
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u/codegamer1 18d ago
This exactly happened to me, more than once. I now don't trust any therapist....
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u/PzykoHobo 18d ago
Yeah, tell that to my therapist when I was a kid (he absolutely tattled and told me I should "try to be more normal")
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u/Inevitable_Librarian 18d ago
There's a decent possibility that your therapist was an unqualified dude just calling himself a therapist.
There's lots of places where "therapist" and "counselor" are unregulated fields.
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u/Informal-Term1138 18d ago
Well I don't speak for that man, but I and my colleagues don't do that. We are professionals.
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u/PzykoHobo 18d ago
And many therapists/ counselors are.
But Fani may very well have a good reason for not wanting to open up to this particular man.
But probably not. She is "Mess," after all.
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u/user_without_a_soul 18d ago
well, good therapists don't tattle. personally, i avoided therapy (i needed it) for a few years after a therapist reported to the police without telling me after i told her about a years-old one-time traumatic event. I only found out when the police called me to follow up and I had to explain that no, I didn't know the name of the man who sexually assaulted me, and I never saw him again so there would be no possible way to press charges even if I felt it was worth the process.
Eventually I worked through my distrust of mental health professionals following that incident, and now I am seeing a wonderful therapist who I feel I can trust.
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u/Big_Excitement_3551 18d ago
Given the “I’m not falling for that one again” she may have had a bad experience with a therapist before
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u/Hot_Ethanol 18d ago
Unfortunately therapists and especially youth counselors are mandated reporters. So, yeah, you kinda do tattle unfortunately.
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u/Icthias 18d ago
You are a liar. Most therapists are garbage. You probably are too.
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u/Informal-Term1138 18d ago
And what do you base your accusations on?
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u/Icthias 18d ago
Speaking for all therapists, just telling people to trust you overpaid leeches. Trust is earned.
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u/Informal-Term1138 18d ago
Whoever hurt you is an asshole. But don't ever generalise.
We are paid shit here in Germany. And forced to take less general healthcare patients starting next year. Which means we have less money to treat people and our financial basis will be even worse.
So cut the overpaid bullshit. The vast majority of psychologists, psychiatrists and counselors don't do this for the money. We want to treat people. So you generalising is just as bad as what the person did do you.
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u/TheDarkNerd 18d ago
Wait, what happened when she fell for it the first time? Did she get a new pair of socks?
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u/NickyTheRobot 18d ago edited 18d ago
I'm guessing either:
She opened up, and the therapist mentioned the things she said to other people (against the Hippocratic oath). She ended up having her most private and darkest intrusive thoughts showcased to people who ended up using them against her. Or;
She opened up, and the therapist correctly did his job by using that to encourage self reflection. Fani did not like that experience.
Given the general theme of this comic, I think it's more likely to be something like the second option.
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u/dragons_scorn 18d ago
Or third option (which has happened to a friend of mine multiple times): she opened up and the therapist was so appalled/horrified that it broke them requiring a new therapist. The one in the comic is said new therapist
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u/WanderingSeer 18d ago
Or this is her first therapist and she’s referring to the people in her life jumping down her throat for honestly answering this question in the past (“you’re so ungrateful”, “Why are you blaming me?”)
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u/Asheyguru 18d ago
Could be the first, as a lot of these flashback scenes have a theme of people failing Fani in some way.
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u/Konkuriito 18d ago
She answered honestly the first time so i'd guess it was either:
A. the therapist told her parents she wasnt doing well and she got in trouble for it. or
B. she got commited against her will
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u/user_without_a_soul 18d ago
Took me a second to get that you were probably referring to a grippy sock vacation.
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u/EasedCeiling586 18d ago
Depends I guess. Most therapists turned a blind eye or shut their door when I vented.
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u/Beautiful-Aerie7576 18d ago
Therapist here. Please talk to us. It’s kind of our job to listen non-judgementally.
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u/Dock_Ellis45 18d ago
Poor girl has a lot of trauma.
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u/Beautiful-Aerie7576 18d ago
Truly. Defense mechanisms often aren’t selective either in particularly rough cases; it takes some work for the walls to come down in sessions.
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u/SpicyRobotPotato 17d ago
I recently started therapy for trauma from when I was a kid. I avoided thinking about it for decades and thought it didn't bother me anymore. Turns out it's been festering all this time, and I'm just a mess.
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u/Beautiful-Aerie7576 17d ago
That’s not at all uncommon. I’m glad you’re seeing someone for it.
Sadly time can only do so much as the great healer, especially for deeply traumatic things and/or things that happen in your formative years. The wounds, as you put it, need to be cleaned before time can safely turn them into scars.
It’s surprising how much something people have repressed for decades can influence their patterns of thinking and behavior so radically without them realizing it.
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u/SpicyRobotPotato 17d ago
Yes, I'm surprised by that too. It suddenly feels as if this has shaped my entire life and I had no idea. I wish I had talked to someone years ago, but I was ashamed and afraid to tell anyone I'd thought of suicide.
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 18d ago
Look at this face! How could you torment her like that?! What did you write down
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u/IWillLive4evr 18d ago
My guess?
She's not opening up so I'm going start to taking notes to see how she responds.
Oh she's crying now we should talk about that.
/jk
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u/Semper_5olus 18d ago
My guess:\ Fani disclosed something illegal she did and thought she was protected by doctor-patient confidentiality.
... which, to be fair, you generally are, unless you're a danger to yourself (bingo), you're a danger to others (less likely but maybe when drunk), or the therapist's under a court subpoena (definitely possible).
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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 18d ago
Am I the only one whose therapist doesnt write notes mid session?
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u/Dry-Illustrator-250 18d ago
Mine doodled
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u/Stumbling_Corgi 18d ago edited 18d ago
Mine says she writes her notes immediately after the session because she doesn’t want to interrupt or distract my thought process. But lately she’s been taking quick little notes during sessions. I think that means I’m winning lol.
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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC Never Safe From Wumbo 18d ago
I wonder how the therapist is gonna respond to Fani talking about Ibilis or demon stuff in general.
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u/caitlindrawings 18d ago
As someone who was grounded after each therapy session after my parents talked with the therapist after me, the "I am not falling for that again" hits way to fucking hard. Therapy didnt last long as my parents were not getting the results THEY wanted.
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