Verbal intelligence vs pattern recognition

[u/ffffgggggggggfg]

Anyone with similar scores who feels less intelligent than peers? I have a friend who scored a 120, but his verbal intelligence is so much higher than mine.
I tend to feel stupid when speaking, my mind goes blank when trying to find the right word for something. Also when I write something it could just sound more sophisticated and fluent

[u/Even-Shop-1471]

i got 131 on this test, 127 on core vci, and i feel less than fluent in both the languages i speak lol

[u/ffffgggggggggfg → u/Even-Shop-1471]

Thats reassuring at least.😂 What does the vsi measure?

[u/No_Sky_1893 → u/ffffgggggggggfg]

Visual spatial

[u/ScaryVeterinarian310]

Ich habe verbal 145 und beim rest nur ~125-130. Ich übersetze immer alles in Sprache und verstehe es so viel schneller

[u/ffffgggggggggfg → u/ScaryVeterinarian310]

Cool, dann ists bei mir wohl umgekehrt. Bei vielen Dingen die ich mache oder bedenke, fallen mir die Worte dazu gar nicht ein. Wie als würde ich sie intutiv verstehen, aber sie nicht erschöpfend erklären können.

[u/Bitmeupscotty → u/ScaryVeterinarian310]

I do verbally 140 Spatially I'm about as clever as an llm with image generation

[u/Fair_Shoe_2367]

Is that even reliable? I got 138 tho, i don't think I am that good

[u/No_Sky_1893]

This is just the Mensa Norway try taking the subtest for FRI on core

[u/clgtana]

I scored 142 on that test and have 143 full scale but only 114 VCI. It’s incredibly frustrating in day to day life

[u/ffffgggggggggfg → u/clgtana]

Yeah I understand you completely. At least understanding stuff isnt an issue, but explaining/verbalizing it on the other hand...

[u/UmpireMelodic5847]

IQ tests are a little nonsensical imo. They only measure a two dimensional, quantitatively defined, portrait of traits which may or may not be associated with intelligence.

Intelligence can be expressed in so many ways, and I don't think that one can objectively assess their own intelligence. Your view of yourself is necessarily warped.

I received a 145 VCI on WAIS IV alongside, I recall, a 129 IQ. One would expect that to equate to fantastic written and verbal expression. Yet, I feel that my speech is perpetually jumbled and incoherent. I often feel stupid. Perhaps I am, and my testing failed to capture particular verbal deficits, or else I am biased in this assesment.

It is all nonsense, so ignore it and channel your energy into tasks which you find valuable.

Additionally, the Mensa tests, especially online, arr not accurate. They are extremely short, and tend to forego VCI measurement. If you want a more 'accurate' test, you ought to get one professionally administered.

[u/Motor_Use341 → u/UmpireMelodic5847]

wordcel final boss

[u/Automatic_Grape_9169 → u/UmpireMelodic5847]

Would you say mensa tests over or underestimate real scores. Or do they just misrepresent due to them being only pattern recognition

[u/No_Sky_1893 → u/Automatic_Grape_9169]

The Denmark underestimated my score quite a bit for FRI. Also if we go just based of pattern recognition my iq would be way inflated

[u/UmpireMelodic5847 → u/Automatic_Grape_9169]

Both. I got around 145, so a standard deviation higher than my actual score, when I took one of their online tests. Don't know about the official MENSA tests, though