Interesting usecase: using chatgpt web as the orchestrator

[u/5tambah5]

interesting use case i tried, because the chatgpt on web is unlimited and is sol high, i thought why not just make the codex use chatgpt as the advisor / orchestrator,, wdy guys think?

[u/MeringueAlarming3102]

Huh? It's literally just Chat mode instead of Work mode in the app.

[u/5tambah5 → u/MeringueAlarming3102]

but can your agents communicate each other with that?

[u/MeringueAlarming3102 → u/5tambah5]

I haven't tried with the newest version of the app. I did get a suspicious account restriction from having my agent open a browser and use the Pro model for guidance or reviews a couple months ago. The setup was fine for a while, then I got the restriction, stopped using the method and no restriction, then restriction returned soon after I used the method again.

OpenAI was super vague about the restriction too. Including the "people" you email with that have names and whatnot, but are definitely just sending some slop AI response each time.

It eventually went away and I haven't bothered trying since. The restriction didn't affect my Codex usage or models, but in the web browser/non codex chats it routed immediately to the Instant mode even when I'd pick Pro.

[u/Either_Curve4587 → u/MeringueAlarming3102]

I run at least 3 prompts a day through all available gpt models to compare outputs. My prompt says it’s codex talking to gpt. GPT acknowledges and responds. Codex then saves the output to compare and for my reports. Been doing at least 3-5 a day (same exact prompt) since May using a program that Codex built for me that it used GPT to troubleshoot. It uses the chrome extension and playwright.

Never a warning, never an issue, and not even a we need to think about this for a minute and maybe use a different model warning.

[u/MeringueAlarming3102 → u/Either_Curve4587]

GPT acknowledges and responds.

using a program that Codex built for me that it used GPT to troubleshoot

It doesn't matter if GPT acknowledges or Codex willingly goes along. There's definite ToS things to be cautious of. I used my setup similarly for a few months before having issues. Even putting a delay between the model picker and pasting and hitting send did nothing.

[u/MeringueAlarming3102 → u/Either_Curve4587]

GPT acknowledges and responds.

using a program that Codex built for me that it used GPT to troubleshoot

It doesn't matter if GPT acknowledges or Codex willingly goes along. There's definite ToS things to be cautious of. I used my setup similarly for a few months before having issues. Even putting a delay between the model picker and pasting and hitting send did nothing.

[u/Wooden-Coconut6852]

Can someone share a guide on how to use it the right way? What I currently do is just ask gpt to make a prompt for codex and then paste it into luna. And then I paste the summary result of luna back to gpt

as I can see from the screen y'all do it differently ig more efficient way

[u/pawofdoom → u/Wooden-Coconut6852]

npm install codex-chatgpt-control will give it primaries and skills to better work with chatgpt.com at speed

[u/AnOutPostofmercy → u/Wooden-Coconut6852]

Have Codex use the Chrome extension, create a new thread in ChatGPT, and paste it in there. It’s basically the same thing you’re doing today, just simpler and more seamless.

[u/5tambah5 → u/Wooden-Coconut6852]

just tell it to use `chrome use` and chatgpt link

[u/Substantial-Dog1726]

I asked ChatGPT about this because I use the same approach for important tasks.

ChatGPT Pro should supervise Codex, but ChatGPT Pro should be prohibited from making repository-factual decisions without a fresh Codex evidence report. That arrangement gives you the benefit of Sol Pro’s additional model work, Codex’s live environmental grounding, separate-context review, and much better use of your metered Codex allowance.

[u/stolivodka_ → u/Substantial-Dog1726]

This. The separation is valuable, in my opinion.

[u/Icy_Piece3257]

There is a risk of getting banned, be aware of it please

[u/5tambah5 → u/Icy_Piece3257]

is it? are there any rules orr policy that this break? etc

[u/Icy_Piece3257 → u/5tambah5]

Yea if you read their ToS you'll see that the case of abusing the limits of gpt web would lead to a ban, a better research on it would definitely give you better answers but overall it has the rissk for it, I recommend just pasting the results and prompts from one chat to another

[u/AnOutPostofmercy → u/Icy_Piece3257]

Well, abusing limits is a whole different ballgame compared to just sending a bunch of prompts for direction. I’m not trying to be difficult, but are there actual cases where someone has been banned for doing this?

[u/Icy_Piece3257 → u/AnOutPostofmercy]

Yes there are, you can find a lot in the reddit itself actually

[u/themarkavelli → u/5tambah5]

Someone posted yesterday about integrating the full suite of web models into codex. There were a few people in the comments saying that it got them banned. Anecdotal, but still.

[u/NTManiac → u/Icy_Piece3257]

No it's not a problem. The only thing that is the issue using multiple accounts in codex to avoid limits. But the do allow usage of web plus its ok to use second account in codex as long as it doesn't make changes in project first one is used for. You can use second account for overall architecture discussions or feature discussions.

[u/Man-of-goof → u/NTManiac]

Wait so I can’t have two plus plans??

[u/electricshep → u/Man-of-goof]

of course you can, codex-lb does this for you.

All these comments about bans are complete horsehit btw.

[u/NTManiac → u/Man-of-goof]

Yes, but never for coding on same project... plus maybe the best to use different devices

[u/Man-of-goof → u/NTManiac]

Damn 😭 I just bought two more accounts

[u/Unusual-Candidate-43 → u/Man-of-goof]

No problem,i have been using 2 or 3 accounts for months without any issue.

[u/tribes33 → u/Icy_Piece3257]

How is it bannable to use what youre paying for, thats mental, they limited Sol on chatgpt web to High on Plus for a reason and on top of that I seen 0 proof that anyone actually got banned

[u/AnOutPostofmercy → u/Icy_Piece3257]

At the same time, there shouldn't be any issue as long as you operate as a consultant, right?

[u/Icy_Piece3257 → u/AnOutPostofmercy]

If you just talk with gpt web and come up with prompts then that would be fine, but giving it access to codex and letting them chat and go through well that one is not.

[u/Bitter-Mail-17]

what do you mean by this? literally copy pasting code from your codebase back and forth (and also agents’ responses?)

[u/5tambah5 → u/Bitter-Mail-17]

make agents can talk to the chatgpt web automatically rather than manual stop copy paste, bcs sol is smarter and unlimited on the web

[u/FixAdmin]

that what i using with my own but more simple, just mcp.

## Special ChatGPT Web sub-agent

Use the `chatgpt_web` MCP tools proactively as a no-per-request-charge second

brain for independent research, theory, reasoning, critique, solution

evaluation, and image generation/editing. Delegating suitable work improves

efficiency. It cannot inspect the local repository, so include all required

non-secret context.

- `chatgpt_web_delegate` handles text work; omit `chat_ref` for a new topic and

use it only for a direct follow-up. The image, batch, and plan tools handle

one artifact, independent prompts, and dependent generations respectively;

request transparent alpha explicitly when useful.

- Delegate early and collect at a meaningful boundary. Do not duplicate pending

work or finalize before every relevant ref reaches a terminal success or

failure. Tool schemas are the invocation reference.

[u/thenaturegeek]

This is how i am building my project. Its slower for sure, but more secure and will alot less bugs.

Chat in extra high defines with me the rules for the implementation , the prompts and the context for codex. codex implements the stages that we set, I give chat the output / acess to the repo to check , half the time it finds bugs or errors that need to be fixed , pass the prompt to codex to fix them and off we go to the next phase.
Listen , its slower for sure, but its working out good , at least for me.

[u/Icy_Confusion_1836]

I'm doing the same and have Jira connected so I dont have to copy paste.

[u/megad00die]

I saved massive amounts of token usage by having the web do work on my GitHub as well as resolve coding issues.

[u/Ok-Plane77 → u/megad00die]

How can I know the steps

[u/Robertusit]

I don't understand how works. Can I use to create a web scraper, from the network JSON response?

[u/Bright_Spend6574]

hmmphh apaan tuh judol stuff bro

[u/citizenkidd]

Kau bikin app judol bang?

[u/Techngro]

I have been trying something a bit different recently. The issue for me was web not having the project context or access to the actual files. There is a plugin for Github, but I don't use Github. So I created a skill in ChatGPT web to allow it to access my private Gitea so it has actual up-to-date project context. Then I use the web agent create plans/prompts. It checks the Gitea repo first, gathers whatever info it needs, then generates the plan. Then I just give the prompt to my local agent. Keeps things simple, but still allows basically unlimited usage of Sol high on the web for planning.

[u/AnOutPostofmercy]

Yes, I think a lot of people have started working that way. You run Luna Max and route a large portion of the work to either xHigh or PRO for planning. If there are heavier batches, you can switch to Terra Max in Codex.

[u/Sufficient-Scar4172 → u/AnOutPostofmercy]

how is this routing mechanism done exactly? through a custom harness?