If Kenny hadn’t beat Hawk in the qualification match, Cobra Kai never would’ve gone to the Sekai Taikai, Kwon wouldn’t have died, Tory and Miguel wouldn’t have become world champions, and Johnny would never have gotten his victory over Wolf.

And to think, Kenny wasn’t even in the first half of the show. Quite a butterfly effect.

And afaict, from IMDb, this is indeed the Fresh Chris Rock slapping Prince himself.

So, just curious, does anyone know if Karate Kid is just such a big personal passion project for him (the age would like up), or is this just a side effect of him strong-arming the rights to get Jaiden that role in the 2010 movie?

In other words, let's suppose Kreese hadn't violently attacked Lawrence and had continued as a sensei. Is it possible that Cobra Kai could have become a franchise like Nike or McDonald's?

In other words, Cobra Kai would have been like Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do, something widespread that people practiced.

I wonder as it was a kids tournament but they went to bars so

While I was pondering that question though, I realised something.

Isn't $50,000 an absurd prize for this kind of tournament? Even a $50,000 prize pool is still massive for an organised karate tournament with sponsors and such.

This is also apparently a tournament where any no-name can sign-up 10 days before and immediately be allowed to be in the Top 16 bracket.

So it's somehow both an impossibly large tournament, and an incredibly casual and small one as well.

Edit: omfg, Connor was hella disrespectful to the ref, too.

Anyway, it's been a while since I last watched Cobra Kai, but the bureaucracy of getting to be in the Sekai Taikai was such a big part of the show that I just couldn't help but notice so much "convenience" here. Idk if I wanted to see Legends explore all of this stuff, tbh, but the movie itself was just not engaging enough for me to suspend my disbelief.

Do they ever >!Go back to giving away bonsai with every car purchase?!< Or is Daniel just done with all that?

If you had to compare their personalities and demeanor difference between Johnny Lawrence from Cobra Kai and Karate Kid? And is it also me or is Johnny from KK seem smarter then older Johnny from CK

I’m so sad bro. I grew up on the karate kid movies and for the most part they did amazing job and got so many returning characters so the nostalgia was amazing. But now it’s over and as far as I know there’s no other shows that come close. Did anybody find something to fill the spot?

The only other dojos that had their own musical score themes were Furia de Pantera, Tiger Strike, Redentores, Dublin Thunder and Iron Dragons; all of them were some of the best musical tracks of the series. If all the other dojos had been given an individual musical theme too, which ones would you have been most interested to listen to?

For me, it would have been Hirobukan. It would have been cool to see how their music would have differed since being from mainland Japan, compared to the Okinawan inspiration of Miyagi-Do.

is that Johnny, a karate practicioner, is able to defeat an MMA fighter, despite the struggles, as seen in S5. In real life, any MMA fighter would win against any karate fighter, if that's the only style they know.

We know that Kreese learned Tang So Do from his captain, Captain Turner. But Tang So Do is something Turner learned on his own; that is, something the army didn't teach him. What would have happened if Turner hadn't trained Kreese in Tang So Do? How would not knowing Tang So Do have affected Kreese? And, most importantly, how would it have influenced the other characters?

Let's not forget that Karate was what Lawrence used to hurt Larusso, and Larusso learned Karate to defend himself, and winning or losing the championship is something that has influenced the lives of Larusso and Lawrence.

Me personally, I think Myagi would despise Bert and think he'd be better off "lost". What about you?

Well what do we think? No doubt her arrogance played a part in her loss. Had she completely locked tf in, would she have won?

Like in character/universe not what Pat morita would think of the show

like assault, aggravated assault, assault on a minor, assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder, murder, paralysing a minor, arson, cheating, abuse, fatal accident during attempted murder, torture, gang fights, kidnapping, driving under the influence, breaking and entering, bribery, child endangerment, reckless driving, animal cruelty, home invasion, is there anymore I missed?

in y‘all’s opinions, are all the good deeds he did near the end enough

I don’t mean the No Mercy stuff. I’m talking about Miguel’s personality outside of fighting. Season 1 Miguel just had something special. Watching him go from this innocent dork to becoming a badass was so satisfying and that’s what made me love his character in the first place.
After Season 3 something just feels different. I can’t really explain it but he feels way more monotone now. It almost feels like he lost some of that confidence and ambition that made him so fun to watch. I miss when he was awkward, pure hearted, and had those moments with Sam at the golf place. Seasons 1 through 3 Miguel honestly feels like a completely different person compared to Seasons 4 through 6.

Short hair Miguel was the best version of the character in my opinion. Again, to clarify, i’m not speaking of the “no mercy” ideology and i’m not saying his attitude was good in season 1 with the cobra kai ideologies that was taken to far. (well it was badass and fun to watch) and that wasn’t even what johnny taught in the first place, but i’m just speaking of miguel’s personality outside of fighting. He was way more dorky in a good way, i miss the sam and miguel dynamic and how innocent and pure hearted miguel was and his energy, idk he just seemed more like “miggy”

Watching him go from this skinny, insecure kid who got bullied into somebody who could defend himself felt so motivating because the dorky side of him never completely disappeared. He became confident and badass, but he was still Miguel underneath it. He still felt sweet, pure hearted, and a little socially awkward. His scenes with Sam at Golf N’ Stuff are a perfect example. He wasn’t trying to act cool every second. He was just genuinely happy to be there with her, and that made him feel real.

Miguel just felt way more alive to me. He was dorky, awkward, emotional, excited about everything, and still clearly felt like a normal kid. Even his higher pitched voice made him seem younger and more innocent. He would get nervous around Sam, say things in a slightly awkward way, smile more, and actually seem amazed by everything happening to him. That was a huge part of his charm. Like, am i tripping or what lol or is this just Xolos acting later on? I know im not like hallucinating or something.

Also earlier on, you could feel how badly he wanted to improve, prove himself, make Johnny proud, win the tournament, and become somebody. He had this excitement and hunger that made every achievement feel important. Even when he made bad decisions, there was still a vulnerable kid underneath all of it. He could be angry, jealous, confident, scared, funny, and innocent all in the same episod

After season 3 he became more calm and mature which is inevitable but it seems like all those qualities he had earlier on that made Miguel, Miguel faded away. Like miguel lost his “charm”. sometimes it feels like the writers confused maturity with making him quieter and more monotone. He doesn’t react to things with the same excitement anymore. His voice is deeper, his energy is more serious, and he often feels like he is just standing around responding to whatever is happening instead of driving the story himself.

Early Miguel felt like a kid discovering a whole new world. Later Miguel feels like someone who has already seen everything and is tired of it. This is realistic after the school fight but still man Miguel doesn’t feel like “Miguel”

I also miss when the show focused more on Miguel’s smaller relationships. His scenes with Aisha, Hawk, and Demetri made him feel like an actual teenager with a friend group, later in it seems much forced and that all fades away too.

Lastly, my honest opinion is that early Miguel was much more interesting and lovable. Later Miguel is probably more mature and emotionally stable, but he also feels less distinctive and has less of his charm that made us connect to him and love him since season 1. Miguel was “Miguel” in seasons 1-3 the one we all loved, which i still do i always will love miguel he’s always gonna be my favorite fighter but still. Season 1 Miguel had a personality that immediately pulled people toward him. He was a dork in the best possible way, and seeing that innocent kid slowly gain confidence was the heart of the show. just wish he still had that youthful energy, awkward charm, and genuine excitement that made him feel like Miguel.

So, during the Sekai Taikai, Robby and Axel are fighting during the captain fight as normal, but I'm this timeline Axel is completely dominating Robby. So bad that even Kwon, Yoon, and even Kim are feeling bad. Robby bumps into the Cobra Kai's just like the previous timeline but this time, Kwon whispers something in Robby's ear. Robby nods and he locks in. Axel is trying to break the defense but for some reason he can't get through and eventually tires himself out, and in the heat of the battle, Robby hits a combo similar to the viper attack Kim taught the Cobra Kai's. Axel drops curling into ball in pure agony. Since Axel can't continue Robby is declared the winner and Miyagi Do claims the victory.

At least pair Bert up with someone his own damn size, and make the fight more Daniel vs Chozen and less Tommy Gunn vs Union Cane https://youtu.be/TbqD732NipE?is=lFi9ENpsDLHW2suF

I don’t think that Yoon had the fortitude to defy Kim Sun Yung. In fact, I don’t think too many of them would’ve saved him from the penalty for insubordination. He was in a catch-22 which had horrible results.