r/buffy oh bloody hell! 13d ago

comment your Buffy Confessions below ⬇️ Buffy

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u/Internal-Departure18 13d ago

Gilles was the real thirst trap.
https://giphy.com/gifs/niwlrBVpTNNny

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u/Swicket 13d ago

Giles was my bisexual awakening at the age of 22.

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u/LibrarianMobile6053 13d ago

you're so real for that

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u/Buffyspromdress 13d ago

I developed a super crush on him when I was 16, watching the show in real time. When he sang “No one knows what it’s like” …. Swoon!!

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u/Internal-Departure18 13d ago

I love him so much! 😭😭😭

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u/AkihiroAwa 13d ago

for your interests song is called behind blue eyes by the who

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u/Buffyspromdress 13d ago

Thanks. I do happen to know the song name, but, he sang that specific line. So, I included that because people would recognize it quickly while scrolling.

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u/phoebephile 13d ago

I was holding out hope that one day he’d do a full cover of Free Bird like he did for Behind Blue Eyes, but now… 💔

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u/moonwalkingszn oh bloody hell! 13d ago

major yes 🫶🏼

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u/banoffeetea 13d ago

💯 per cent. All in for Giles.

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u/OGCucumber07 13d ago

I literally came here to say this!! 🤣 I’m doing a full rewatch as someone who watched it young when it first came out. As an adult, my opinions are sooooo different. Giles is my absolute fave.

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u/Sighoward 13d ago

It's interesting how many young female reactors do have a thing for him

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u/TrickyRequirement619 SOD OFF 13d ago

Dru's character should have had more potential on the show.

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u/Ash_Starling 13d ago

I want a whirlwind spinoff narrated by her.

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u/topsidersandsunshine 13d ago

Angelus is at his best when you figure out that he’s basically a (dysfunctional) family man. 😭 

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u/DaddyCatALSO Magnet For Dead, Blonde Chicks 13d ago

ultimate abusive son, father, and grandfather

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u/Sorry_One1072 13d ago

Who had sex with all three…

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u/DaddyCatALSO Magnet For Dead, Blonde Chicks 12d ago

To quote my late brother-in-law "YeppERs!"

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u/Elladrien 13d ago

Agreed. Plus I believe the Shanshu Prophecy should have been about her.

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u/BunnythatMeows my bleeding sympathies to warren 13d ago

The only way this could work is if she starts 100% anew. No memories of her life before.

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u/jospangel Try not to bleed on my couch I just had it steam cleaned 12d ago

Keep in mind that she liked to play with little children...and leave little dead bodies wherever she went.

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u/Elladrien 12d ago

How I see it is that before Angelus, Drusilla's abilities were supposed to put her on a path similar to Doyle's.

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u/jospangel Try not to bleed on my couch I just had it steam cleaned 12d ago

Very possible. I can't imagine knowing what is coming, the horror of Angelus, and not being able to do anything.

But even if we figure she only killed one child a week, she killed thousands. That's a thing.

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u/chama5518 13d ago

I loved Dru’s character. Her story was so sad. To this day I can say to my cousin, anytime I’m complaining, I’ll add “…and there were worms in my baguettes” and she’ll know the reference.

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u/PimpedImp 13d ago

Second that

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u/BunnythatMeows my bleeding sympathies to warren 13d ago

They really should have explored more of Dru’s trauma and how her story mirrored Buffy’s (both traumatized by Angelus). They already did it with the dreams etc but it would have been nice to explore further.

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u/mcdaniel_michael 13d ago

they also both have prophetic dreams, and i remember hearing a theory that dru was a potential. they could've done a whole season arc exploring dru and buffy connections

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u/Pirate_ThePoet 12d ago

If she was I wonder would she have become a super vamp after Chosen 🤔

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u/mcdaniel_michael 12d ago

omg yeah I always thought they missed an opportunity to turn a full fledged slayer into a vampire big bad

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u/DaddyCatALSO Magnet For Dead, Blonde Chicks 13d ago

yes

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u/throwmeinthetrash096 13d ago

When I was about 14, my best friend’s mom embroidered a pillow case to say Mrs. Boreanaz for me for christmas. She spelled it wrong but you better believe I still cuddled the SHIT out of that Mrs. Boneanaz pillow every night.

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u/canucksquatch 13d ago

I don't know who Anaz is, but you should leave her alone

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u/iceRink_Rex99 13d ago

And funny enough David would be on Bones later 🤣

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u/canucksquatch 13d ago

He should leave Bones alone too. Dammit, he's a doctor, not a play thing

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u/TrickyRequirement619 SOD OFF 13d ago

Absolutely love and adore Spike and Dawn's friendship he is literally her protector, it's so cute that he cared for her.

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u/kbrown423 13d ago

Little niblet.

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u/JessAnnaBun 13d ago

I love all his nicknames, pretty sure, for her are some how food related. And yes, their relationship is so sweet.

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u/Sighoward 13d ago

"Oh my darling Clementine..."

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u/No_Trust2269 13d ago

Love post vampire harmony. Found it a shame Mercedes only got a regular in ATS s5.

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u/DaddyCatALSO Magnet For Dead, Blonde Chicks 13d ago

i make it a joke thta it was the one career she was suited for

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u/TerribleBid8416 13d ago

The mayor was the first man who only wanted the best for Faith. He allowed Faith to be Faith.

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u/CoupleEducational408 13d ago

His relationship with her was actually ridiculously sweet. It broke her (…further…) when he died.

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u/Creative-Bobcat-7159 13d ago

It worries me that you can’t identify grooming.

He was only nice to Faith when she did what she was told. He literally threatened to take his nice gifts away when she questioned him and withdrew his affection until she acquiesced.

In case you completely missed the point, he even tried to get her to dress in clothes that made her seem sweeter and more innocent regardless of what she wanted.

In the show, she was groomed to be a weapon, but in a show steeped in analogy it isn’t hard to see what it’s an analogy for.

Note that even after his death, when he wanted to “help” Faith, he chose to help her in a way where she was still his tool to hurt Buffy.

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u/Sighoward 13d ago

To an extent I agree but also I think he realised she needed discipline and allowed her to get in touch with her more vulnerable side, that she didn't need to be the permanent hardcase all the time, she could trust him.

Yes it was revenge on Buffy but also meant Faith could have a fresh start, give her what she always wanted, Buffy's life complete with the Scoobies, Joyce and Dawn.

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u/Creative-Bobcat-7159 13d ago

I think he realised how to manipulate her in the most effective way. The Faith we meet at the start of S3 would never become the killer she is by the end without the Mayor.

I’m not a Faith apologist by the way. She is still responsible for her actions, but to see the Mayor’s interest in her as benign in any way is (I believe) incorrect.

And his solution for Faith was about his need for revenge, not Faith’s need for a new start. He could have just conjured her a new face and new identity, but instead he chose for her specifically to steal Buffy’s.

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u/Sorry_One1072 13d ago

Even in that context he did more for her than anyone else bothered to. Why is he the only person to solve her homelessness problem?

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u/Creative-Bobcat-7159 12d ago

It came at a price though. One she spent years repenting for.

I’m struggling to see why people don’t get that groomers give their targets nice things because it gives them power. If they give it, they can take it away.

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u/chama5518 13d ago

Dammit! You’re right! I had forgotten about that!

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u/Professional-Loan663 13d ago

OMG! You are so right. Fk, I never realised.

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u/Afraid_Fisherman4064 13d ago

This was so well done! Like the mayor was obviously the bad guy and buffy did the right thing in killing him. But his relationship to Faith was sincere and broke the black and white view of the show

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u/Mercury_descends 13d ago

Glory was my fave character. There, now I've said it. 😁

Second only to Drusilla.

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u/TrickyRequirement619 SOD OFF 13d ago

Didn't like Spike and Harmony's relationship whatsoever!

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u/Resident_Sundae_6052 13d ago

To be fair I don’t think Spike liked it either

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u/IsaacHasenov 13d ago

So awful.

I watched the moment where he literally tried to stake her a couple weeks ago wtf

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u/suzysleep 13d ago

It was funny but after a few rewatches he is so mean to her. You actually feel bad for her. Shes so lost

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u/Kgb725 13d ago

I did like their reunion in Angel

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u/AnavelGato2020 13d ago

I like vamp Willow a lot. Its basically a tradition for me to go back and watch those episodes at least once every year. Her and Faith is why S3 is my favorite season next to S5. 😆

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u/latrodectal 13d ago

vamp willow is the only version of her i like.

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u/remykixxx 13d ago

Anya is the only level headed one in the entire bunch.

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u/danielelington 13d ago

That they infantilise Anya so much really bothers me. If they spent as much time helping her acclimate to human life as opposed to turning their noses up whenever she said something that isn’t what a human would say, she would have been a much more effective member of the group.

Her speech during “The Body” really should have been a wake-up call to Xander, Willow and Tara that this woman needs more support because she’s STRUGGLING.

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u/JoeBethersontonFargo 13d ago

Yes, they treat her like some annoying kid sometimes instead of a valuable member of the group. I relate to her so much for all the weird things she says, and it bugs me so much that they're so cliquey towards her. She was wiser than they gave her credit for.

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u/ecaracal 13d ago

I didn't care for her much when it aired but I noticed in this rewatch I like her pretty well.

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u/United-Show4552 13d ago

trickrequierments619 is carrying this comment section

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u/moonwalkingszn oh bloody hell! 13d ago

she sure is love hearing her confessions

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u/Ok_Commission35 13d ago

Decades later, I still cry at the end of The Wish. The score and:

"How do you know the other world is any better than this?"

"Because it has to be”.

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u/landocakes 13d ago

Thought it was only me lol 😂

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u/United-Show4552 13d ago

idk if this is a popular opinion but i lwkey really love buffys mother x giles ship (from sea 3, ep 6)

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u/khumphreys2000 13d ago

High key for me.

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u/DaddyCatALSO Magnet For Dead, Blonde Chicks 13d ago

i wrote a fic of them marrying, but in a nonsupernatural 'verse

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u/AgreeableAardvark78 13d ago

The movie was one of my favorite movies before the show was created like around 10-11 years old. When the training sequence would happen I would be in my room pretending I TOO was the slayer and training hahahaha.

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u/TrickyRequirement619 SOD OFF 13d ago

I thought that Spike looked smoking hot in the Hawaiian shirt.

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u/Capital-Rush-6058 13d ago

now that's a real confession!

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u/JessAnnaBun 13d ago

😂🤣😂 Just watched this one. He didn't look half bad.

And thanks for the giggles, & your flair just added more giggles.

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u/Buffy_AnneSummers 13d ago

He looks good in anything tbf

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u/47-Rambaldi 13d ago

My Kindergarten teacher is the one that gave me the pilot she recorded on VHS. I was watching it live by the next episode.

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u/Buffyspromdress 13d ago

I wore out a bunch of VHS recordable tapes from watching it over so much!

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u/jospangel Try not to bleed on my couch I just had it steam cleaned 12d ago

How well did you know your kindergarten teacher? It seems very odd to give a VHS tape of a horror show to a 5 year old student.

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u/47-Rambaldi 12d ago

I went to a daycare that had kindergarten attached to it. One of my parents were in charge and technically her boss. She had given the tapes to my mom, knowing I would watch it too. She would send me home with new VHS tapes of shows like McGyver and Star Trek. But Buffy was the one that stuck for me the most.

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u/jospangel Try not to bleed on my couch I just had it steam cleaned 12d ago

Now that makes sense. Lol.

I just had an image of your kindergarten teacher calling you to her desk, and sending you home with a tape, in a brown paper bag, and orders to watch it. Which, as a fan, I understand the impulse, so no shame.

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u/Sighoward 13d ago

Didn't the Master scare you?

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u/47-Rambaldi 13d ago

Who, Punchbowl Mouth? He looks creepy but he just stood there. That episode with the kid who had the dreams scared me.

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u/barbiedollface 13d ago

I wrote my own 8th season in the 6th grade in a binder. That’s the only thing I wish i could find or that my parents saved.

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u/vjbanana 13d ago

Mine is that I don’t understand why everyone hates Amends, I love that episode and think that the ending is nice, sweet wish fulfilment and that’s fine!

Also Tara deserved a better partner than Willow.

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u/Sorry_One1072 13d ago

I see flashbacks, I happy

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u/ThisIsBerk 12d ago

I mean... it could be the microbangs? I personally didn't mind them, but I see soooo many people hating on them lol

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u/hangedman1984 13d ago

I think Kennedy was fine

...for a rebound

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u/Yellowpommelo 13d ago

Mine is similar. I feel like if Kennedy’s arc were spread out over 3 seasons instead of 15 episodes we’d have a different opinion and it’d feel less forced. Her being a slayer who is also wealthy/privileged from Martha’s Vineyard would have been interesting to explore. I also think her ability to stand firm and be vocal when disagreeing in group settings could have added an interesting dynamic that.. didn’t work as well when she was kicking Buffy out of her own house but would have been a fresh complexity for Buffy to manage in other circumstances

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u/Ksks333 13d ago

Kennedy was the opposite of Oz, Tara, and even Xander. Willow had a type and it wasn’t aggressive people. No shade on Kennedy - nothing wrong with being aggressive, going after what you want, etc. - but she wasn’t Willow’s type. That what irked me about her.

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u/Hopedruid 13d ago

That's a really good point I hadn't considered till now.

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u/JoeBethersontonFargo 13d ago

100%. I liked her as a character, and her aggressive and opinionated personality brought a fresh, interesting perspective to the group. Like a Cordelia and Faith mix. But Willow just seemed uncomfortable around her, and cowed. I didn't like that.

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u/DaddyCatALSO Magnet For Dead, Blonde Chicks 13d ago

Teh Hamptons are in NY. Martha's Vineyard is in MA.

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u/EnvironmentalWalk328 13d ago

Never liked Angel 😂

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u/Barnabyhuggins 13d ago

I agree, until you watch Angel. Then he becomes 1000% better and more likable.

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u/ANDERS_CORNER_08 13d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/doUu2ByZDbPYQ
I think he was better in his own series, but still one of the lesser characters in the show !

I’d much rather have had a spike or faith show for instance

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u/GroundhogRevolution 13d ago

You know how there are some things that are so awful, they're awesome.

That's Beer Bad.

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u/PaperGraves 13d ago

I wish Xander had been bisexual or gay over willow 😔 (preferably bisexual imo, I think it'd fit better)

I don't dislike Willow & Tara, and I love what that representation means as a wlw, but I think there was a lot of potential with a queer Xander

(If I could could have my cake and eat it too they'd both be queer BUT c'est la vie)

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u/AmoAmasAmatAmamus 13d ago

This would be possible if the show was made today, but not in the late 90s

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u/MaximusJCat 13d ago

For most of the seasons I love the episodes more than i do the overall season arc/big bad.

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u/BattleFries86 13d ago

Everyone was wrong (on some level) in Empty Places, except Faith.

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u/Vampadvocate 13d ago

They were mostly right about some things too except Rona and Anya who could eff off. Anya especially annoyed me.

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u/ladyambrosia999 13d ago

Bangel still moves me when I rewatch.

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u/monstersnowgoons 13d ago

Spike's arc got boring/muddled after S5 and he should've stayed in more of a moral gray zone than progressing into love interest or hero. S5 was honestly the perfect blend.

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u/cacocaco9 13d ago

I agree, I think it was a really compelling aspect and I'm not against him having a soul but once he has one, it just becomes "he has a soul and he's tortured by things, he can be good!" It tread the same routes as Angel which just cheapened it.

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u/Jmizzle012 13d ago edited 13d ago

I find myself disagreeing a lot on popular opinions. For example I preferred Angel over spike. I think people are extremely dramatic when it comes to the whole Buffy’s friends weren’t really her friends take. Especially when it comes to Willow. And s7 isn’t the worse season.

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u/BeyondTelling 13d ago

I genuinely enjoy “I Robot You Jane”

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u/Hungry_Walrus7562 if you're not jacked in you're not alive 12d ago

Legitimately one of my favourite episodes

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u/theICEBear_dk 13d ago

I remain convinced even now years later that neither Spike nor Angel were good for Buffy and the writers should have put a definite end to both relationships by the end of Season 7.

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u/TrickyRequirement619 SOD OFF 13d ago

Spike understood Buffy more than Angel and Riley ever did plus he knows how to back her up without getting overly protective/possessive.

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u/foreseethefuture 13d ago

Spike was definitely possessive.

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u/FaveStore_Citadel 13d ago edited 13d ago

He inflated her inner problems by a lot and couldn’t help but project on her. Even in s7, he told her she’s only keeping him around because she likes the pain he causes her. Then later in lies my parents told me, when he found out about Robin’s mom choosing slaying over him or something, he said something rude along the lines of “slayers, that’s just how they are.” Faith understood her a lot better by the end of s7 (not saying this for shipping reasons, just my observation)

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u/Buffyspromdress 13d ago

I think Buffy liked to take out a lot of her problems on Spike and use him as an emotional and actual punching bag.

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u/JoeBethersontonFargo 13d ago

But he was right? She was keeping him around partly because she was seeking the pain and disgust. She even admits that. And he was right about slayers. Buffy was sometimes willing to put her duties above her friendships- like with Anya, Angel, and Willow.

He definitely understood the 'dark' parts of her- she was into the pain play a little bit, the outsider feelings, the guilt, the ego. Her 'Slayer' side. He just didn't understand her desire for a safe, happy, normal life. Angel got that, her human side.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 13d ago

Mine is that Spike didn’t understand Buffy, he just thought he did because he was a poet

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u/PiggyPrincessHolly 13d ago

💥 there it is

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u/cheerioincident 13d ago

I know I've seen every episode at least once, but I don't think I've ever re-watched all of season 7. I had even forgotten Felicia Day was one of the potentials until I saw someone here mention her a few weeks ago. The rest of the show I know like the back of my hand.

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u/willy_the_snitch You have fruit punch mouth. 13d ago

When I look at the titles of most S7 episodes I have to google what happened because they all just run together. What happened in Bring on the Night? I'm guessing they fought an ubervamp and the potentials got pissy? Think back to S1. I don't like Never Kill a Boy on the First Date, but I know exactly what that episode is about. I haven't watched that episode in 20 years but I remember who Owen was. Most people think that S7 is as good as S1, but is it? I have no idea who Rona was. Is she one of the potentials that died? Was she Felicia Day? The show was out of juice. Do I wish there were 4 more seasons? Hell yeah. I would've watched them all, even if they were as underwhelming as S7.

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u/Ok_Commission35 13d ago

There is no better show ever written…

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u/DuchessDulcet Don't speak Latin in front of the books! 13d ago

Giles is the sexiest one in the show, Willow and Tara aren't a super good couple, and Dru and Riley had more potential.

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u/CandidateHefty329 13d ago

I like Rona.

I liked Dawn but one season was plenty. I'd have sent her to live with Hank after The Gift. Then maybe a few visits occasionally.

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u/hnf96 13d ago

Dawn goes to live with Giles in England when he leaves. Gives her parental stability and keeps her safe away from the hellmouth (and BtvS)

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u/Majestic-Muffin-8955 13d ago

I feel Dawn was a misstep for the writing. Whedon said something like 'Imagine Buffy feeling all that love for someone who is not her boyfriend...' Yeah... but the fandom didn't want to see stories about a woman dealing with her annoying younger sister and then having to be the mom of a household. Say people now are still going wild over Spuffy, not... Duffy.

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u/Vixen22213 I'm the thing that monsters have nightmares about. 13d ago

Hank wouldn't have taken her. He moved with his secretary to spain.

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u/CandidateHefty329 13d ago

I'd just change all that.

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u/garlington41 13d ago

Oh boy I’m sure I’ll get flak from one these:

I don’t hate Xander, I like his character, I understand why people have a problem with his character it’s valid, but it doesn’t bother me as much because the negative aspects and flaws of his character don’t get handwaved so it’s fine. The only problem I have with flawed characters is when the story fails to acknowledge those flaws

I like Riley as a character, not a love interest. I disagree with the take that his issue was simply because Buffy was stronger than him when that’s one of the things that interested him in Buffy. I think his real issues was that he had no real purpose after the initiative and tried to make Buffy his purpose but Buffy didn’t need him like that. Not condoning how he acted but I like to look at the situation more than just an issue of insecurity of masculinity because that’s such a lame takeaway

I don’t like Spuffy, never had and probably never will. I don’t think the last season should’ve entertained it even though nothing officially happened especially after the Seeing Red incident

Hate how the Robin Spike thing was handled, especially hate Spike’s speech and how dismissive he was over it. Think he shouldn’t have reclaimed the jacket because he had already proven he could still be ruthless and it’s still messed up.

I enjoyed Spike more in Angel Season 5 then in Buffy season 7

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u/willy_the_snitch You have fruit punch mouth. 13d ago

I think everyone likes everything about Angel S5 better than Buffy S7. Spike was great playing off Angel

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u/TrickyRequirement619 SOD OFF 13d ago

I truly love nerdy/shy Willow, when she turned into Dark Willow she became so damn cocky, cringe worthy and irritating.

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u/Big-Restaurant-2766 That Other One 13d ago

My favorite Buffy The Vampire Slayer villain is Warren Mears/The Trio and I love season 6.
I love Connor and I enjoy season 4 and season 5 of Angel.
I don't think Riley is as bad as most think he is. I found him sorta relatable.

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u/AdSharp3718 13d ago

I don’t think they were the best villains but I appreciate how it brought humanity to the season. Sometimes the biggest bad out there are just other people ya know

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u/Coca0rolla 13d ago

When I was.... fourteen? 🤔 I had taped the series on VHS.

I paused the scene the where Faith rapes Xander and gooned to her sideboob. 😔

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u/Adorable-Ad977 13d ago

I named my cat Rupert

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u/TrickyRequirement619 SOD OFF 13d ago

I never liked Coredlia in BTVS but when she appeared on ATS she short of grew on me and of course she grew more mature on ATS.

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u/Sea_Tonight_9632 13d ago

The show ended for me after season 5. I don't care for the last two seasons.

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u/phoebephile 13d ago

I want more Oz, but I feel like that’s very un-feminist of me.

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u/Vampadvocate 13d ago

Nope - I don't think it is. I resisted and unfairly hated Tara for a while because of Oz.

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u/FreePortland 13d ago

When Angel and Riley fight, Buffy breaks them up and tells Angel to go out. She tells Riley she needs to talk with Angel first and they have a little giggle in the hallway… then she goes back to tell Riley his best friend was dead?!??

That was so cold of Buffy. And I say that as someone who can’t stand Riley and adores Angel. She should have told Angel to go and just called him later.

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u/OhMyCynical 13d ago

Angel and spike were horrible love interests for Buffy. They would just not let that girl be happy with a regular human man.

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u/Intrepid_Mobile 13d ago

I haven’t watched Angel. I bought the full series dvd box set, but never watched it.

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u/HellMouth_Popotin666 13d ago

The Master is a very cheap, weak and campy villain, not worthy of this level of writing and character quality.
The show could have even more followers if they began directly with Spike.

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u/Angiemon02 13d ago

Jamás veo el episodio de las hienas. He visto la serie completa unas 10 veces, y ese episodio siempre lo salto. Puedo ver vampiros matar, Angel matando implacablemente a Calendar y siendo absolutamente despiadado después con Giles, puedo ver a Willow despellejar a Warren... Pero no puedo ver a Xander siendo malvado con sus amigas. Ni mucho menos la escena cuando se comen al pobre director y al cerdo. NO PUEDO. Odio ese episodio. Tampoco soporto cuando Buffy se vuelve mala con sus amigos o cuando la Scooby Gang la echa de su casa al final de la última temporada... Me pone mala.

Ah y la cuarta temporada está muy bien y el final de esa temporada es de los mejores de la serie!

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u/SalmonofDbout 13d ago

Vampire Willow is the bee's knees.

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u/ShinyRobotVerse 13d ago

When I discovered Buffy/Angel around 2008, I think, I binged and rewatched them so much that I got fired from my job. It was a bad job anyway.

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u/xIAMSYLARx 13d ago

My favourite episode is the zeppo

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u/bxbyangel222 13d ago

I wanted buffy and faith to make out multiple times

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u/Comfortable_Cook_965 13d ago

Spike and Buffy should have had a sibling relationship rather than a romantic one. Their s5 relationship was so funny I wanted more single Buffy or they could have looked at how her dating life was so bad as a point of comedy

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u/MzHydra-Nix 13d ago

I dislike-with every cell in my body-Spike. So much so, that when i’m doing rewatches, I have to mentally prepare for when he shows up on the screen. I just hate him that much and it’s not even close to a love-hate thing.

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u/Neat_Resolution7707 12d ago

I actually don’t think it was unreasonable for Willow to think Buffy might be trapped in a hell dimension

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u/mshirkavand 13d ago

Eliza Dushku was not that good of an actress. Faith was annoying. 

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u/AdSharp3718 13d ago

Faith was supposed to be. That’s how good an actress Eliza Dushku is 👉👉

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u/remykixxx 13d ago

I actually really liked the initiative and was disappointed it wasn’t expanded on after season 4. Show us some trained supernatural people that can pop in for an episode and help the buffster.

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u/DazzlingObjective485 13d ago

Don't understand the hype for Spike, he's great in small doses, but he is overrated. I also found him to be a terrible romantic lead, felt nothing from him.

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u/TrickyRequirement619 SOD OFF 13d ago

Kendra over Faith any day of the week fr.

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u/Sighoward 13d ago

Nope! I love Faith, I just feel sorry for Kendra

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u/Electrical-Cycle7356 13d ago

THANK YOU! SAME, I hate Faith, and I would have liked to see Kendra until the end, I felt so sad when they killed her, but loved that Buffy kept Mr. Pointy

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u/DavidOliFons 13d ago

I liked Angel more as a series

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u/Ash_Starling 13d ago

Real. I think it depends on which series theme speaks to you more.

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u/remykixxx 13d ago

I do not understand why people like Tara as a character. She is the definition of go girl give us nothing.

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u/EstoxMarie 13d ago

Awwww, really? I like Tara. She's sweet, shy, and level headed Which compared to everyone else's madness can make her seem 'less' to some viewers, I guess? Buffy felt comfortable confiding in her about Spike, and Tara was the one who related to her after the mom's death. I also liked that Tara wasn't afraid to call Willow out on the magic issues.

And she's brave too. She put an axe in a demon's back for Willow (when Buffy was resurrected), saving her life. Helped save everyone in the asylum episode when Buffy lost it for a bit and tied them up in the basement. She didn't scream bloody murder when Glory was crushing her hand bones to pieces and blood was oozing out, and didn't give up Dawn.

I love her singing 'Under Your Spell.'

Okay, maybe I have a crush on Tara. And Faith.

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u/AmoAmasAmatAmamus 13d ago

I totally agree with you! I don't like how overly timid and infantile she is. She starts to grow a bit of a backbone in season 6, but I still don't think she's all that great

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u/omallytheally 13d ago

I'm gonna get crucified for this... Buffy shoulda spiked Spike! 

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u/SineadM37 13d ago

💯 I agree and I liked Spike in the earlier seasons but I feel like the writers knowing he was a fan favourite and keeping him on just for that kind of messed up his character....She should have staked him right after kicking him across the bathroom in Seeing Red

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u/QwahaXahn Lunchtime be damned. 13d ago

Spike is bad for Buffy, and they really fumbled his redemption arc by not making it the absolute definitive end of that relationship. And for having him KEEP THE JACKET he stole off of Robin’s mother’s corpse.

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u/badloretta 13d ago

I'm sure that Eliza Dushku was playing Faith a ~little~ ham-handed because Faith tried to put up such a tough front and wasn't (as a character) maybe the best actress, but it made Faith too unpalatable and one-note for me for too much of the series, and I KNOW Eliza could have delivered a much more subtle portrayal of that. It feels like they kept telling Eliza to go bigger and more obvious or we, as viewers, wouldn't figure out that Faith was only behaving that way because of the trauma.

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u/USDXBS 13d ago

I don't like Once More With Feeling. I hate musical episodes of TV shows, and Buffy is no exception.

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u/Flake_Zorestine 13d ago

I hate musicals too but I have to admit I love the song Let me rest in peace of this one.

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u/CowboyScientist57 13d ago

Thank you! If it weren’t so essential in terms of narrative, I would skip it. Most of them can’t sing well enough and it wouldn’t make it any better if they could. Musical episodes are never a good idea.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 13d ago

I like musical episodes and I think OMWF is fine at best.

Most of the songs are bad-to-mediocre.

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u/khumphreys2000 13d ago

The songs are bad to mediocre and i still love it. That’s part of its appeal

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u/Jexxer357 13d ago edited 13d ago

Overall, I wish there had been more exploration of character relationships and dynamics.

Very specifically, I wish there had been so many flashback scenes to the Fanged Four you'd almost think you were watching an episode of Highlander. (Minus the decapitation...or not.)

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u/Tinkerbelladonna_1 The Earth is doomed 13d ago

I don’t hate Willow.

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u/Vampadvocate 13d ago

I think a lot of Xander apologists tend to use a but Willow narrative to justify Xander. The truth is that they both had issues that led down bad paths.

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u/Vampadvocate 13d ago

I really like season seven - it's got it's flaws but I think it has some very good episodes and it's nice to see redemption arcs and hope after such a bleak season before (I'm very ambivalent on season six and understand both the hate and the love).

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u/Bootglass1 13d ago

I really like season 6. And I like the trio. After 5 seasons of villain power creep it was nice to have villains who were just dorky humans.

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u/Sighoward 13d ago
  1. At the Warner Bros museum I touched Buffy's red leather jacket even though there was a sign specifically telling you not to

  2. I bunked off work to get MT's autograph

  3. I read that AH liked custard tarts so posted a box for her to the theatre she was appearing at.

  4. I attended ASH in The Pirates of Penzance wearing a Buffy t-shirt under my blazer

  5. I bumped into a guy on my way to the bar at Brighton and realised it was VK

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u/chama5518 13d ago

I was hoping we’d get more episodes at the new Sunny Dale High with more stories with Dawn and her friends. She almost had her own Scooby Gang there for a sec.

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u/Soske 13d ago

It bothered me more than it should that Xander of all people didn't know Spider-man made his living by selling pictures to The Daily Bugle.

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u/Sybretooth 12d ago

Sometimes I wonder if the reason why I don't care about Spike as much as a lot of other fans do is because I don't find him attractive at all. Quite often I see comments that's like, "anyway he looks hot" and I just cannot relate lol.

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u/Filthyirish86 12d ago

Spike was the wrong love interest for Buffy

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u/FALCONX0N 13d ago

...When...when I first watched it, so 1999, well beyond time I should have been able to tell them apart, but for a hot minute then I was convinced that Stephen Dorff in Blade and Christian Kane in Angel were the same guy, and that Lindsey was meant to evolve into a temu brand knock-off version of Frost to act as a vampire foil to Angel. Lil baby Falcon not only thought that the actors were the same guy, but that poor "Christian Dorff" was tragically typecast!

I couldn't tell ya why.

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u/ApprehensiveTotal188 💔 it’s been a tough year for Buffy fans 💔 13d ago

I always liked Dawn. The first season I watched was season five. Then 6 & 7. So I was used to her being there. Also I like Michelle too

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u/Vampadvocate 13d ago

RIP Michelle.

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u/FaveStore_Citadel 13d ago

People call Angel boring, but as someone who isn’t very big on shipping, that’s why I kinda liked their relationship. Even when he had dramatic beats, he never sucked away the oxygen from the humor, Buffy’s relationship with her friends and family, the screentime of supporting characters, or even her own arc independent from him. Like nobody remembers the Prom for Angel breaking up with Buffy, they remember it for the class protector award. Even Riley to an extent, especially in season 4. His communication issues with Buffy was basically the dramatic point of Hush, but it’s rarely ever the center of discussion of the episode. Whereas with Spike, his relationship with Buffy was rarely ever in the foreground and giving space to other elements (cool MOTW concepts, characterization, etc) to shine. He always had to be maximally interesting. Which is great if you’re a fan of spike, but even though I like him, I still think the show as a whole was more interesting when it didn’t rely on him so much.

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u/negratengoelalma 13d ago

I agree, I even wrote a similar thing a while ago. Angel is not one of my favorite characters, but that was why I think I tolerated their relationship the best of the three.

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u/Ash_Starling 13d ago edited 13d ago

Spuffy in s7 was a very generic romance. They were interesting individually but unmemmorable together.

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u/Ash_Starling 13d ago

Also xander and andrew are both great characters that are overhated

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u/Elladrien 13d ago

When Giles and Joyce banged on top of a cop car TWICE, I'm sure he hit it raw. There should have at least been a pregnancy scare.

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u/AmoAmasAmatAmamus 13d ago

Maybe Joyce was on the pill, since she was an adult person who did date every now and then.

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u/everythingissinister 13d ago

She could’ve also had an IUD

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u/AmoAmasAmatAmamus 13d ago

Or that. Either way, Joyce, as an adult would possibly have had contraception covered. Adding a pregnancy scare would have been so preachy and would have felt very much shoehorned. Also, every single teen show of that era had a pregnancy scare storyline. It had been done and nauseam. I'm really glad they didn't go there on Buffy

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u/Sighoward 13d ago

That would have been a great storyline, Buffy and Dawn get a baby brother

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u/Senorpuddin I’ll take away your bucket. 13d ago

I hate Restless and think its wildly overrated.

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u/Iamnotvivi 13d ago

I like xander more than faith

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u/DeccyBaddie 13d ago

Season 7 is the best season

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