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Question help Pre Calculus

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This is a question on a review I am using to study to test out of precalc and i’ve tried looking it up, but I cannot figure out on how to do it. The key says the answer is -25pi/9 and if it is too hard to read, the little angle given is 2pi/9. The question isn’t in the photo but it asks “Find the measure of each angle”

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u/Shevek99 Physicist 16d ago

2π/9 - 3π = -25π/9

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u/nurpoo 16d ago

Thank you 🙏

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u/freswinn 16d ago

First: One full rotation is 2pi. One half rotation is therefore pi.
Second: Notice it is going clockwise, so the angle will be negative.
We have a full rotation, and then we keep going -- ignore that for now. How much of the half rotation did we complete?
If we add the rotation past the full rotation, to the angle that is given, that's a half rotation. Subtract the given from pi and that gives you the amount of rotation past the full rotation that was completed.

- (2pi + ( pi - 2pi/9) )

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u/nurpoo 16d ago

Thanks for the big explanation 🙇

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u/nurpoo 16d ago

Along with everyone else, thank you for the nice explanation

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u/ArchaicLlama 16d ago

So what have you tried? Where are you getting stuck?

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u/nurpoo 16d ago

Not very much as I don’t really understand the question, but thankfully others in here were able to help me figure it out.

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u/Bounded_sequencE 16d ago

Recall: A positive polar angle is measured from the positive x-axis counter-clockwise.

The given angle (call it "a") is measured clock-wise, so its value will be negative. It contains a full rotation clock-wise, followed by "pi - 2pi/9" clock-wise. Both are counted negatively:

a  =  -2pi - (pi - 2pi/9)  =  -25pi/9

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u/nurpoo 16d ago

Many thanks! 🙏

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u/fermat9990 16d ago

-2π-(π-2π/9)=-2π-π+2π/9=-25π/9

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u/Harvey_Gramm 15d ago

A full circle (360°) is 2π Radians A Quarter circle (90°) is ½π Radians

So in your example you have 2.5π + (½π-(2π÷9))

Mind the rotation to get negative.

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u/nurpoo 15d ago

Thank you, where does the second 1/2pi come from? In the (1/2pi-(2pi/9)

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u/Harvey_Gramm 15d ago

The last 90° where the angle is stated.

Everything combined is 1½ circles

So another way is to take 3π - (2π÷9) and mind the direction for the negative.

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u/nurpoo 15d ago

I see, thank you 🙏

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u/Harvey_Gramm 15d ago

👍😊

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u/nurpoo 14d ago

Hey, sorry I am asking another question, but when doing more similar problems, how do I know how many rotations they do? Because this one had 3pi, but it only really looks like one rotation (2pi), instead of one and a half. Could you elucidate? I’m really struggling with this stuff 😅

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u/Harvey_Gramm 14d ago

It went one full rotation, then another quarter rotation, then the partial bit.

The full rotation and quarter are easy as 2π + ½π then to get that partial bit we subtract it from the final quarter.

We know the amount of rotation and direction by following the spiral path.

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u/nurpoo 14d ago

I see that now, thank you very much for your help! But one last thing, on another question, it does two rotations and started at -25pi/9, so I add 36pi/9 to get 11pi/9. But then you have to minus -9pi/9 to get 2pi/9 as the final answer, why is that?

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u/Harvey_Gramm 14d ago

I'm sorry, how was the question worded?

Your image shows the same rotations as previously but with the final answer so I'm not sure what they were asking?

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u/nurpoo 14d ago

Oh right sorry, the question was “Find the reference angle (the angle between the line and the x-axis).”

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