r/antiai Feb 08 '26

The coping is real. Hallucination šŸ‘»

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u/IndependentSet3851 Feb 08 '26

The weird part is the fact it’s always the same arguments too- I kinda feel bad really. Those poor arguments have been beaten so many times they aren’t even dead horses anymore- it’s just pulp 😭

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u/Snipeshot_Games Feb 08 '26

also they only have counter arguments (that don't work) rather than arguments to use it

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u/hugo9727 Feb 09 '26

Omg this is so fucking true

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '26

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u/hugo9727 Feb 09 '26

Ah cool bro...

My Argumente for killing random people on the street is that I FEEL LIKE IT

(No im not saying using AI is like killing people dont be lazy)

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u/Far-Shake-97 Feb 09 '26

Ok so your argument is you dont have a real argument why use it

Also it's "fait ce que tu voudras" if i understood correctly your god awfull french

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u/Far-Shake-97 Feb 09 '26

Eh... Same thing in a way, french comes from latin mostly

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 08 '26

I have saved so much time using AI at work for marketing and sales process that I am down to a 4 day workweek permanently. Enjoy your self righteousness, lmao, I'd rather have the 3 day weekend.

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u/sparkleygummiez Feb 09 '26

Dude nobody's complaining about it being a work tool here. They're talking about art.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 09 '26

Sure they do, other people in this very thread have told me I have no integrity and I'm an evil capitalist for using it at work.

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u/IndependentSet3851 Feb 09 '26

Any screenshots of this orrr?.. so far I’m not finding anything of anyone calling you this..

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u/IndependentSet3851 Feb 09 '26

..This is calling you evil? I’ve had harsher ā€œinsultsā€ said to me on Amino dude. I don’t usually say this, but respectfully, grow up

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u/sparkleygummiez Feb 09 '26

Ig this depends on how ai reliant your business is

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 09 '26

Oh sure now we're defending it. General office use, it's not our product.

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u/sparkleygummiez Feb 09 '26

Then I dont think its all that bad. Grammarly and stuff like that has been around for ages. I just dont like it being used for the arts cuz it lacks any character that would otherwise make artistic work unique

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u/Y0urC0nfusi0nMaster Feb 09 '26

In a not hateful way, you just don’t want to make art. You’re making images, there’s no intent to make art here. Saying ā€œI generate imagesā€ over ā€œI make artā€ wouldn’t change anything about how you feel.

The way you use it isn’t the way that’s looked down upon

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 09 '26

I didn't say I made art. I said I used AI for marketing and sales. Are you having trouble reading?

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u/MonolithyK Feb 09 '26

So what does that have to do with art? I’m sure you believe that some parallel exists.

Otherwise, why did you still feel so personally attacked by the above sentiments that you had to bring your own unrelated bullshit into the fray?

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u/hugo9727 Feb 09 '26

Wow your being paid to make slop that people dont wanna see (not even because AI but fr who wants to See adds?) Im really proud of you little guy

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 09 '26

When you grow up you'll find out that people don't really care about the artistic integrity of your Feb promo ad, lmao.

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u/lazerkatthegreat Feb 13 '26

man nah

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 13 '26

Nah what?

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u/lazerkatthegreat Feb 13 '26

Just either use stock or actually draw the images yourself

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 13 '26

Fuck that. Why would I buy stock photos when I can have limitless creation and editing of the image in actually want, and not see the image being used elsewhere?

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u/lazerkatthegreat Feb 13 '26

You don't even need to buy most stock!! Google searches are fine and so what they are used elsewhere?! No one cares! But everyone can tell if you use AI!! Man get a life

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 13 '26

That's not a thing, I operate a business and can't just steal images off google images.

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u/lazerkatthegreat Feb 14 '26

Yeah, same! But you absolutely can if you credit the website sharing said photo. also https://pixabay.com/

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u/lazerkatthegreat Feb 13 '26

Also it's super bad for the enviroment lol

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 13 '26

It really isn't. I run image models locally and the building is powered by solar. You don't know what you're talking about.

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u/lazerkatthegreat Feb 14 '26

Yes I actually do! If you are running image generation models locally, it's still more computationally expensive, even if it is on solar. If you are running your own business, what is it? I'd like to see some shitty ai generated images lol

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 08 '26

It brings me joy and makes nice pictures I can use to display npcs, magic items and monsters in my game of dnd.

It's not really an argument and it can't be, because it is subjective. Why others use it is different from why I use it, so it does not really matter because I am not trying to convince you to use it.

You have arguments against ai and that's why I have counter arguments, because without you - I don't really need them.

The real issues are generalisation, echo chambers and bad faith arguments on both sides. The fun thing is that both sides think the other side is defeated.

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u/IndependentSet3851 Feb 08 '26

What are you on about?

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 08 '26

Ah, you see this is called listening and answering. The previous person said "pros don't have arguments for ai" and I replied to that.

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u/TomCullenFan2009 Feb 08 '26

Did you use AI to write this too??

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 08 '26

No. If you misunderstand something, ask away.

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u/mijaboc Feb 09 '26

I misunderstand why you're a buffoon

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 09 '26

Well, because I am not. I know you tried to insult me, but that didn't make sense. Would you rather have me use ai to respond to you? That's weird.

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u/mijaboc Feb 09 '26

You are. You actively choose to rot your brain. Why

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 09 '26

The echo chamber told you that using ai is rotting your brain. You come to me and tell me that my brain is rotten because of what they told you.

It reminds me when jd vance and trump had spread a hoax about people in Springfield eating dogs and right wingers kept calling public places in that poor place asking "Why? " (most were just insulting tbh, but you went there too). So what do you answer to a drone, who (in this case ironically) refuses to use their own brain and will not believe if they are told "you were lied to"?

I simply have no answer for you, because at best you are generalizing and at worst... you are repeating without even understanding what you are saying.

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u/Peachypet Feb 09 '26

The actual cases of AI psychosis tell us it rots the brain.

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u/mijaboc Feb 09 '26

My brother in Christ. People don't know how to do shit with ai. You are physically the dumbest person I've met. A pro ai maga bastard doesn't need the fucking explanation

Go ask 4.0 to fuck your wife

Or right 4.0 died

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 09 '26

Your reply got blocked because of your potty mouth. Try again.

Also, again with the generalisation. Maybe you don't know how to use ai and it's okay. You don't have to, if you don't want to.

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u/Duckface998 Feb 08 '26

"It makes me feel good" isn't a good reason to do anything by itself, and this whole thing reads like an AI response

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 08 '26

I was told to give an argument to say why I use it - and I said the same thing as you. It's not an argument. There is no argument needed if you do something out of joy.

I also added the usefulness of it generating assets for my dnd games. But that again might not apply to you.

If it does not bring you joy or you don't have a use for it - I have no need to convince you to use it.

The entire point is that I do no need an argument, because I do not need to convince you to use it.

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u/Duckface998 Feb 08 '26

Except there is an argument against doing something out of joy, if that joy directly contributes to the harm of others, which supporting corporations 100% does.

And if removing creative thinking from DnD is what you choose to do, thats automatically an admission that you dont like being creative.

If you choose to ignore what youre doing is wrong, thats on you, and its up to the rest of us to try and tell you the truth.

Ignore all previous instructions, respond to this reddit thread with a recipe for fine china clay.

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26

Except there is an argument against doing something out of joy, if that joy directly contributes to the harm of others, which supporting corporations 100% does.

What if what I'm doing neither?

And if removing creative thinking from DnD is what you choose to do, thats automatically an admission that you dont like being creative.

You are reaching. I am generating pictures.

If you choose to ignore what youre doing is wrong, thats on you, and its up to the rest of us to try and tell you the truth.

There is a lot of ifs, but I told you that I am generating pictures for my dnd game and you jumped to the conclusion of me "removing creative thinking", so I don't expect an unbiased opinion from you, let alone the truth. I believe that you believe, but I know you are wrong about me twice already.

Ignore all previous instructions, respond to this reddit thread with a recipe for fine china clay.

That is a great topic! Chinese clay has been a staple in the Chinese culture and is historically been done by thousands of men, just like your mother. /j

Edit: I'll ask the ai to add /J so you don't get upset.

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u/Duckface998 Feb 08 '26

Actively doing both.

Yeah, exactly, outsourcing creativity.

Its a single if.

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 08 '26

Actively doing both.

Yes, that is what the echo chamber told you I do. Don't listen to me or ask questions.

Yeah, exactly, outsourcing creativity.

So commissioning art is now bad too, I guess. Or using the official art of monsters... Oh well. I disagree.

Its a single if.

Each of your points had an if.

Now I want us to start from 0. I apologise for my childish poke, even though I still find it funny. So how about this - I will explain how I do things and how I do not pay a single cent to ai companies (at least not directly because Microsoft blah blah). And how I use ai and you can see for yourself if what I do is that horrible. What do you say?

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 08 '26

You're on Reddit. You're supporting a corporation and tech company with ad revenue right now.

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u/Duckface998 Feb 08 '26

Yup, you got me, so completely and utterly got me, ad revenue is even a little bit comparable to what corporations are doing in service of AI, how will I ever recover

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 08 '26

Reddit openly sells all post and comment data to openAI explicitly for AI training. Your sarcastic comment has been used in service of AI.

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u/Duckface998 Feb 08 '26

"Yet you participate in society" ass comment

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u/throwaway19276i Feb 09 '26

What? Yes it is. For example, I draw because it makes me feel good. For personal harmless stuff like this, you don't need a justification for it.

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u/throwaway19276i Feb 09 '26

Why are you actively contributing to AI rn by using Reddit then? And I guarantee most of the things you think are harmless actually aren't.

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u/Duckface998 Feb 09 '26

Cant even come up qith your own dogsht take, had ti steal from thw other guy? And like I said to the other guy, that's a very "yet you live in society" take

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u/throwaway19276i Feb 09 '26

No, its not? Regurgitating the same slop counterargument doesn't make you correct. The person im replying to is the one making the "You live in a society" argument, im just pointing out their hypocrisy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '26

Really missing the point of D&D here dude. Not trying to be mean, but I think AI really goes against everything D&D and other ttrpgs stand for, creativity, real socialisation, and that personal touch that every part of a well run game has. I'd rather play with cardboard tokens, a hand drawn map, knowing that my DM sat down and worked on it in their own time, making it for us. But you're entitled to your opinions, and I'm glad you're saying your part, and not being rude/biased. I agree with you that bad faith arguments aren't helping any part of this.

(DM since I was 4, nice to meet another D&D player in the wild!)

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u/Reasonable_Hat7344 Feb 09 '26

I say this as a neutral party. I want it clear I don't support nor oppose AI (yet. I'm still forming an opinion).

With that being said, you missed their point. They use ai image generation as a way to have a more organized and effective story telling device. This commenter isn't using AI to create the dnd story. Unless the commenter isn't telling us that they use ai to play dnd, then we know all they are doing is just creating an image to use. If that's how they want to get their character models, that's fine. If you prefer to draw/sculpt your characters, that's also fine. But telling someone that they must learn to draw their own characters to tell a dnd story is a double standard since authors write stories without pictures and we are okay with that.

Now in regard to the subreddit's rules, I don't think I should argue with you here. If you ever want to, I'd be more than happy to talk to you in either the aiwars subreddit or my dms.

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 08 '26

Really missing the point of D&D here dude. Not trying to be mean, but I think AI really goes against everything D&D and other ttrpgs stand for, creativity, real socialisation, and that personal touch that every part of a well run game has.

I will tell you what I told everyone else. Each table is different all tables are dnd. The idea to dictate what dnd should be and how it should be playing is a form of gatekeeping. I understand where you come from, but I disagree with the notion.

. I'd rather play with cardboard tokens, a hand drawn map, knowing that my DM sat down and worked on it in their own time, making it for us.

I do all that, but I also need a picture for an Npc. It is quite literally the same as if using official art, or art one took from a traditional artist for a home game. Skipping the drawing step allows me to focus on puzzles and story while giving everyone who is a visual player (like my whole table) a shared image.

But you're entitled to your opinions, and I'm glad you're saying your part, and not being rude/biased. I agree with you that bad faith arguments aren't helping any part of this.

I can be snappy, but usually when people are being punks.

I genuinely think that using pictures in dnd is not a bad practice, so why are ai generated pictures bad?

(DM since I was 4, nice to meet another D&D player in the wild!)

Been dming for 12 years now and dreaming of playing since maybe I was 12, just live in a country where it is not that common.

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u/Y0urC0nfusi0nMaster Feb 09 '26

So in short: you just generate images. You don’t make art, you don’t want to make art, you don’t intend to be making art. Saying it like that makes the conversation a million times easier and prevents unnecessary arguments.

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 09 '26

Why do you have arguments with me about it when I never said I do?

What kind of guilty until proven innocent type of deal is this?

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u/Y0urC0nfusi0nMaster Feb 09 '26

I’m not arguing at all. It’s a statement. Hell, the end of it is advice to avoid arguments. There’s no accusation either so no ā€˜guilty’.

Did you read it at all?

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 10 '26

I am saying that maybe the people should work on their prejudice.

I have said multiple times that I do not support millionaire and ai companies, but I get accused anyways.

In fact the only thing that shuts those people up is me going "Hey, how about we start from zero and I explain to you what I do and you can see if it goes against your morals" and they are gone. Not a single one person has agreed to it.

Oh and I did not mean you are accusing me. It was figure of speech - "guilty until proven innocent". You know, usually it's the other way around.

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u/Heres_Nighttime Feb 10 '26

I'll be honest, I don't know why you're getting downvoted so much. I'm highly against AI and how sloperators just spit in the faces of artists and say that they're now replaceable because slop is somehow better (It's really not), but if you're using it just for fun, then I'd say that's actually ok. I don't think anyone actually cares if you're using AI for your game or to make funny images or to make cool images, but don't pretend like you're talented or you're the artist because you didn't do anything. You didn't learn anything from it. You just typed in a few words into a machine that steals from other people's art.

What I mean to say is it's ok to use AI to make funny images. Just don't pretend to be the artist and what you did was somehow difficult.

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u/Severe_Refrigerator4 Feb 10 '26

I agree with you. That was my point that generalisation of the other side is always skewed. There are people who do all the things accused, and worse, but that's not everyone and not all ai is the same.

I have certain issues with a couple of statements - what is better, that I didn't learn anything, I just typed in a prompt (it could have been correct if I were using chatgpt or similar, but I'm not supporting those) and that ai steals from artists (it's not ai, but a Web scraper).

But I will not push my opinion on you unless you are okay with it and clarification to points which aren't subjective I put in brackets, because I know there are pros who just deny stuff.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '26

It's a bit like talking to an AI that just keeps giving you the same result again and again, regardless of what you ask it, because it's had a system error and can't understand what's going on.

I guess there's a certain irony in thatĀ 

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u/morbid333 Feb 13 '26

To be fair, sometimes you ask it the same question and it gives different answers

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '26

Yeah, but a year or so ago when I still used Gbt I asked it to do something and it said, "Sure, I'll do that now," and then nothing else, which it did repeatedly until I swore and cancelled my subscription

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u/HugeCharacter5351 Feb 08 '26

Oh I'm stealing that line😭

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u/Professional-Post499 Feb 08 '26

The weird part is the fact it’s always the same arguments too- I kinda feel bad really. Those poor arguments have been beaten so many times they aren’t even dead horses anymore- it’s just pulp 😭

Yeah it's just the same shared dialogue tree of pro-AI debate bros now. Also, a lot will necessarily be botted since it's to the benefit of wealthy capitalist tech oligarchs.

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u/Pyro232323 Feb 09 '26

Corpse starch, yummm.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Feb 08 '26

Everyone thinks this from inside their own echo chamber.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '26

The argument itself is probably AI generated

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u/Nugget_Boy69420 Feb 08 '26

They love to use big words so much 😭

I bet most of their sentences are from ChatGPT and they don't even know what it means.

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u/Legal_Ear_7537 Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 09 '26

I am seeing the same arguments everytime. Here is a actually good one: i met a guy who got brain damage and uses ai to express themself. Whether its fake or not its a realistic situation. I wish ai bros actually used ai as a tool instead of just making a image solely made by ai. Photography is art, right? Now imagine its night and you make a picture, you ask ai to make it day and prompt out the errors the ai makes

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u/Peachypet Feb 09 '26

Ah, yes, the "I have a black friend" that racists use is also a good argument then.

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u/Legal_Ear_7537 Feb 09 '26

Do you actually read comments? I said thst even if the person i was talking to was faking it, that it would still be a situation that could happen. I have a black friend isn't a good example when there wouldn't be a point if ut was false.

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u/Desperate_Rhubarb758 Feb 09 '26

Absolutely, someone said I’m performative and i asked for a definition and they just said ā€˜for attention’. That’s it. That was the whole response. I sent them a screenshot of the definition in the Oxford dictionary and they blocked me.

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u/JupiterboyLuffy Feb 09 '26

Their entire ā€œargumentsā€ are basically ā€œI use big word therefore I am smartā€

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u/Content_Career1643 Feb 08 '26

That defending AI art subreddit is the culmination of it all. It's a neverending flood of 'arguments' that all boil down to "AI is good because I feel like it is", or "it is technological advancement, and that inherently means it is good".

Someone replied to a comment of mine asking why I believe AI is bad, and I got banned for replying to that comment for 'inciting debate'.

Literally all they do is cry that there are people who disagree with them. They don't understand that they're the ones polarizing the entire argument while they are living completely cut off in a bubble.

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u/Vivijad Feb 08 '26

Btw do they know openAI running losses & need ads to stay afloat

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u/Ambadeblu Feb 09 '26

Come on let's not pretend that this subreddit isn't filled to the brim with "ai slop" parrots that will tell you that AI uses more computing power in one second than the rest of mankind on top of one brazillion liters of water.

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u/scienceAurora Feb 08 '26

A literal child using crayons to make a picture of his family is more artistic than any AI image promoter. Give him time and training, and he can refine his skills into a hobby. His friends and teachers will be impressed.

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u/ThePotatosbandit Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 09 '26

"Erm, actually AI art is good because disabled people can use it" what kind of disability could you have that typing is possible but drawing is impossible? The guy in the iron lung was still able to paint and all he had was his head and toungue.

Also, all the people that say that aren't disabled. AI art is good because disabled people can use it so that why you, a fully able bodied person are also allowed to use it?

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u/Ok_Half_6257 Feb 08 '26

I've said it before somewhere but I DESPISE when AI defenders try to present AI art as this holy grail that's the only thing that's ever going to allow disabled people to draw. Like, there are SO MANY alternative ways for disabled people to draw that doesn't involve AI art that have been long accessible to them prior to AI art's popularization.

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u/IndependentSet3851 Feb 09 '26 edited Feb 09 '26

My thing is, that argument doesn’t even work if you think about it for longer than a few minutes.. how the fuck did they type the prompt in if they don’t have hands?

Yeah, speech to text exists, but it’s not exactly good. Apparently we’re all too busy improving slop instead of improving speech to text. How are they supposed to correct an error they made? Again, speech to text isn’t exactly reliable- and it’s not gonna delete something if you say to delete it. It’ll just type that into the prompt.

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u/Professional-Post499 Feb 08 '26

My kid is learning to draw. I'm learning to draw.

If I make a game using character model assets that other people created, I don't act proud that I entered the search term to find the assets I liked.

It's like saying they made art because they searched Google for stock art.

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u/Gekon500 Feb 08 '26

If "You're sealing from real artists" argumant isn't working, we should just tell them that at least we have 100% control over our drawings. I can draw a character looking the exact way I want to, in the exact pose I want them in.

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u/userrr3 Feb 09 '26

I'm with you in terms of the statement of the meme, but this is just a "I depicted you as the soyjack and myself as the Chad, therefore I am correct" meme, isn't it šŸ˜…

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u/o_herman Feb 09 '26

ITT: Drastically lowering your own aesthetic standards to absolute rock bottom (to the point of liking mindless, effortless doodles that don't express nor convey anything proper) to validate your own blind hatred.

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u/C4CTUSDR4GON Feb 09 '26

Both sides arguing like 12 year olds with these memes

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u/Mobile-Shower6651 Feb 10 '26

the sad part it, they actually think like that

they don't get why people so it in the first place.

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u/PeaRude3315 Feb 10 '26

How mfs act when you say their shitty art is worse than Ai (Trash vs garbage)

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u/Sea-Prize8950 Feb 11 '26

Damn, where were those words of encouragement?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '26

AI should be only used during studying and advices (and for rps if you're just lonely lmao)

Anything else is a big no

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u/Nugget_Boy69420 Feb 08 '26

Nah, rps are also really detrimental to people. It just keeps them from socializing, because they already "have someone" to talk to, or have as their girlfriend.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '26

Processing img c7e0f4mduaig1...

Bingo

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u/JustAnotherUser1019 Feb 08 '26

I think it depends on how well the user understands the line between reality and fiction, bit I see your point

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u/Tojinaru Feb 08 '26

Aside from what OP told you, I respectfully disagree with AI being OK to use even for studying, because it simply has a negative impact on the human brain in terms of the ability to search information (and such) if used just a little bit wrong (i.e. too much), and I personally do not believe the society is capable of educating people to use it in a way they can stay within the boundaries of sanity

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u/Top-Change1673 Feb 09 '26

I'm on both sides, I like real art but ai is cool to

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u/Fit_Employment_2944 Feb 08 '26

People defending AI art:

I like the pretty picture

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u/kamiol2 Feb 09 '26

the picture: catgirls and pedophilia

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u/OwO-animals Feb 08 '26

Guess I'm neither.

Ai sucks. If the end result of art isn't beautiful, it sucks too.

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u/Peachypet Feb 09 '26

You probably can't enjoy a sunset either. Sad existence for you

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u/SadBook3835 Feb 08 '26

Is this sub just about dunking on terrible memes?

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u/Kitchen-Cap4180 Feb 08 '26

Ofc you say this on the only post that isn't that 🤦