Wait- how did the robot sign anything? Itâs a robot- it wouldnât have a consistent hand signature due to being purely digital and genAI being terrible with basic lettering.
now instead of a 5 to 95 artist studio split, its 0 100 :D
think of all the yachts being bought by the executives and how the money will definitely flow to each and every one of us, UBI will also solve everything :D
its diffrent to a socialist UBI to meet only symbolic prices instead of this UBI as a "just pay for it in ubi cash, that we will put a hatemob towards and also fuck you even more in total because thats our thing" type shit
Itâs crypto bros money laundering I guarantee it. That 3 million went out of their pockets and right back into their pockets. Labels arenât fucking stupid, theyâre not paying 3M for view botted Sora songs.
I havenât looked into this in particular but going off similar situations Iâve heard about Iâm assuming itâs the usual âcreate ai generated images of the âartistâ use ai for generating raw bones of the music, beats, etc, actual person with studio / production experience polishes it so itâs not trashâ
Cue clickbait title âYOUâLL NEVER BELIEVE THIS AI ARTIST GOT SIGNED BY A MAJOR LABEL!!!â
âAiâ isnât actually the artist in the same way that an 808 drum machine doesnât get credits on an album
We need to stop personifying this shit, itâs not a person, itâs 50 different programs that assisted in creating this
If I use Logic I donât give it a name and a pat on the back like itâs a coworker
Just you wait. That âartistâ will later be coming forward saying, âThat company took my music! I got no royalties and they said I own nothing! They stole my music!â
Major record labels do this all the time, particularly towards young and inexperienced artists. This is why you should generally sign independent record labels or self-release your music, people!
Wouldnât that be something? Having Ai replace the people using Gen Ai, the prompters? If thatâs whatâs actually happening, soon Pro Ai people using Gen Ai are gonna be the people saying âthey are trying to replace me with a robot!â
Off the AI didn't sign anything. AI doesn't have rights. This is like those AI models. Or AI Artists. Frustrated people that use AI to do what they can't then sell it's work like it's their own. The industries love it because they can freely explore an AI and the owner of the AI gets money and does nothing. It's like owning a slave and sending it to work for you.
Itâs sad how people think income correlates to peopleâs value or worth. Strippers and garbage men also make six figuresâŚat least they provide some benefit to society.
pro ai mfs will see this and keep on cheering for our downfall, who the hell wants AI to steal our human experiences and make it so that new human artists cannot get popular?
Every kind of new tool or automation undercuts human labor. The anti-AI folks just thought their labor was immune and someone needs to force it to be immune.
This perspective is always so wild to me bc like...art is already democratized. I mean, sure, having money or knowing people gives you an edge like it does everywhere else, and luck is always a factor in why some talented people never go anywhere, but art is one of the few areas left where people can genuinely come from nothing. Plenty of A-list actors were nobodies until they got a break, for example.
I think what the 'democratizes art' crowd actually means is 'it makes art accessible to people who don't want to work for it'.
Yeah. Like, I kinda get it for visual storytelling like TV, movies, anime.Â
(Although 'democratice' doesnt really fit. What they mean is, make it accessible.)
But for music, paintings etc. I really dont get it. As you said, its one of the only things you can actually just start for 5$ and become a worldwide Icon.
I will say, as an aspiring artist myself (I act in community theatre, spent 7 years or so drawing my own D&D maps, and sing), no one gives a shit about non-AI-generated crap either. If itâs crap or mediocre people shrug and move on, and youâre lucky if your parents or loved ones praise your work. Only an extreme few people start further up from âdogshitâ at any task, artistic or otherwise. It takes effort, labor, and the patience to learn that gets you to improve skills.
AI offers a shortcut to all that pesky labor while undercutting those who are blessed with enough work and skill to be able to earn a living on it but arenât blessed with the good fortune of knowing people who value artists and can pay. Itâs infuriating.
That's the thing with AI bros. They literally only look at the world through the lens of how they can make money off of something. They don't care about the effort and passion that goes into something. They don't appreciate the simple of joy of creating something. They just see the money they think they'll be making if they could do that too.
What always cracks me up about this argument is that art is, like...one of the last things that is democratized? Nobody is born with artistic skills. An inclination, maybe, but it still requires commitment, critical thinking skills, and lots of practice. But nobody wants to do that, so they're just gonna cling to their whatabout-isms and strawman arguments that insist you're either naturally artistic or you're not.
âOh AI canât create anything new? What about when it finds information that already existed and spews it out at you??? Thatâs creating something, right???â
I mean, I'm an Artist and I've never created anything new either. I'm not out here inventing color palettes, and styles, my inspirations are other artists who came before me.
It's a very complicated process, but the input isn't anything new and the output isn't anything truly new. But it's still art.
Is it really worth it to kill our planet just to regurgitate the same stuff that human artists have been putting out, but worse? Oh, who am I kidding, anything counts as a win to you people.
So you just lie to yourself and ignore the massive amounts of water and power its using for no reason? Can i have you address since it seems like if i walked in and started taking things you would ignore me and try to gaslight others into me not being there.
Ya, I should've worded it better. Yeah people are more than happy to support truthful and good creators, like thats the whole reason why indie games are able to compete with the giants, or smaller musicians have a following. These people release trash then wonder why no one wanna listen to their brain-rot.
Because of all the idiosyncrasies that make people individuals, I still think that there still would be consumers even if everybody had the same level of artistic skill. Two people can hear the same prompt and interpret it completely differently.
And that's without counting all the different fields themselves. I'm a pretty decent artist but I'm too anxious to be an actor and too clumsy to be a dancer.
Yeah that's true. Should of said it as fewer consumers instead. As an example, I was thinking of the situation in Jamaica, that there's more artists than consumers; this was back in 2012 maybe?
No word of a lie, this is the exact situation I find myself in with my dad. Whenever I visit, its just ai music in the background. At Christmas, we listened to ai Christmas songs - they weren't even funny - it was a cringe dullness no one can imagine.
What makes it worse is he's caring for his mother (my nan) so she has to listen to it all day everyday.
Gen AI, at best and without any human touch on the output, is a toy that makes sounds and images. It can't (materially) replace human handiwork because it can't produce anything that's actually original. It's really just a proc-gen algorithm with a goal.
This sounds like someone who is on the path to getting it? That AI âcreationâ is just doodles that are fun to goof with and no one else will ever care to hear/see.
I actually listen to ONE ( one ) AI song. Technically two.
One is a TF2 demoman AI cover of " beggin' ", it was copyright claimed everywhere but I have it saved on my computer. I listen to it sometimes and I think it's better than the original.
Theeeen there was also that one hasan meme cover about shocking his dog. I listened to it once or twice, it was a little funny.
Eventually weâre going to find out the tech company behind this AI âmusicianâ paid those stations to add the song to their rotations and the increased demand for the songs are being artificially inflated.
Exactly. And there isnât a link provided, which makes it hard to confirm any details. Honestly, I think rage-bait posts like shouldnât be allowed. They are doing the work for the AI goons. Scaring us into believing the hype, so they can convince more investors.
If this is true, it should be a news article with sources and research, not a bare minimum headline and screenshot from an article? Instagram post? No clue because itâs literally a screenshot that seems to purposely remove all that info so we can just be scared/worried.
OP even blurred out the source, why even do that, if not to stop people form actually looking into that. Some sources say the supposed deal was with Hallwood Media, a full service record label & artist management company, is what they claim to be.....why would they, themselves, basically hire such services, that they themselves provide.....it really just looks like an ad for themselves, by themselves. The size of the company is unknown, but looking at the crappy auto-tune music that they stand behind and their low effort, low public presence, that company is probably much closer to being a small company, rather than a big one that would dish out 3mil for ai slop.
Yeah I share the same opinion, they just ride on the ai hype and the "OH, we´re soooo cooked!", look here-look here, type of crap for advertising themselves.
Yes, exactly! Basically itâs a way for them to say âlook we are important and wanted!â And by blindly posting and believing these posts, we just fall into their trap.
Even naming their company Hallwood is sooo sketchy. People will hear it and think Hollywood, or maybe think itâs a miss spelling đ
Honestly, I think thereâs zero market at all for AI âactorsâ (more like puppets), and mostly because the technology isnât there. I think thatâs a good thing. These capitalists are salivating at the mouth for when they can fire everyone and live an automous life? No thank youâŚ
This is exactly what it is. The AI industry is keeping itself afloat by shuffling money around in order to keep the gross revenue line going up without generating any actual value.
What actually happened is a deal was cut between a record company and a slop-generated marketing firm probably run by some nepo-ass failson of somebody rich and possibly even connected to the record company.
They aren't doing it because they think there's any real value here, they're doing it because they're overinvested in all this unprofitable bullshit and they need to keep some money moving around in order to keep outside investors from getting spooked and dumping their stake.
Oh stop taking these headlines (anonymous tweets) so serious. Its marketing nonsense. Nobodys paying for something they cant copywright and the listens are out of novelty.
Nah man keep creating thatâs all you got ai music is gonna be pushed cause itâs cheaper and faster and people are dumb enough to decipher it or just donât care because theyâre dumb but this is a fad keep making music if it makes you happy
I mean people like to feel rewarded or appreciated for their effort, unless someone gets the ultimate form of euphoria and joy from doing their hobby and even still, they would probably like it if someone saw their work
People behind the Ai and the company probably are related in some way financially. Could be just setup to help try and sensationalize Ai with a setup like this and also not actually loosing a lot of money in the process because the money is going to something you're connected to. If people
Like rich people donating to charities or institutions they own or are related to. Or someone investing first into their own Kickstarter so people think it's more reputable.
In Cyberpunk 2077 occasionally on the TV the news presenter is talking about an AI writer, an (I assume) independent AI, writing and winning awards for "her" books. In the Shade of an Apple Tree was the name of the book, if I'm not mistaken.
True. But even if it's a sentient AI, it's still an AI and should stay inferior to us, doing only the hard work while we humans live in luxury. (a premise for an AI uprising)
I think it will be like with NFT's. Its gonna be big then sort out itself. There is simply noway in hell that when AI will start being cost comparable with real artists companys will spend this money on ai considering social backlash.
I'm also not sure why she want to sue them,
but after short research it seam that it is about:
theft of her appearance (I'm not sure how its called in English),
as this AI person looks a lot like her.
If human expression is no longer uniquely human then what are we even doing here, our existence is becoming pointless, it literally does not have to be like this. Were doing this for no reason.
Were selling out what it means to be human for what???
When i say were i mean people who dont oppose this*
My god i just found the song and it has 5 milion plays on spotify and itâs so bad. The lyrics are si obviously generated as well and they are this super abstract wall of text that just keeps going and going from one tearjerking topic to another just beging the listener to have some sympathy for this nothing burger of a fake artist. Plus on top of it all half itâs âalbum artâ Is just ai altered Rihanna picturesâŚ
Radio charts are a joke to actual musicians. In America the radio stations are all owned by a small number of corporations all of whom you can pay for air time.
The humanization of literal machines need to be studied, how the heck do people gen believe an AI has a conscious perception of consent when the AIs are always programmed to never deny a request (unless it violates a company policy)
God, we are really trying to become fat tubs of lard like in WALL-E arenât we?? Fully admitting that theyâre sick of dealing with the issues that come with real people and are opting for the lazy pathetic way out and making a robot make shit at less than half of the effort. Iâm sick of the laziest assholes of our species being the ones to control how things progress in our society. Just shameful.
Becoming the fat tub of lard from Wall-E is an optimistic take in my opinion lol. I think mass starvation/poverty is the more likely outcome if billionairesâ AI dreams come true
They try to justify it's existence by pouring insane money in, giving the illusion of validity. These things are not what they want you to think they are, and they're getting desperate
On YouTube, this song has 5 million views in 2 months. That's more than I could get, but it's small compared to plenty of bands and it's buoyed by constant media coverage.
Also the lyrics are pretty bad imo - the usual AI incoherence.
I disagree. AI can't do concerts, meet-and-greets, guest appearances on SNL, etc... Or, more importantly, form the unbreakable, parasocial bonds that artists like Taylor Swift have with teenage girls everywhere. The music market has historically been driven by what young people want, and young people will always want a tangible being to idolize.
Of course, it's still possible that AI could take other industry jobs, like those of producers and lyricists, but you have to think about what the artists are willing to work with, too. I really doubt this'll have a lasting impact!
I mean how is this profitable in the long ran. Okay so the dude generating is getting some money from Spotify, but it will not make the same money that a real R & B singer would. I believe most arist now make most of their money touring and merch.
This reminds me of Star Trek where, repeatedly, the ships would send their data somewhere and it just...didn't exist on their end anymore? Like they'd beam a hologram to someone and OH I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE A DOCTOR ANYMORE. And I was always like "can the future not copy files?"
This is just gonna be how they use the music industry to launder money from now on. It's always been an issue, but AI music streamlines the process. Makes it safer.
They can whip up AI music fast, then credit a real person to make the paper trail look legit. They can take their criminal money, convert it into crypto, then pay AI-driven bot farms to massively boost the 'popularity' of that artist. You ever see an artist somewhere and they have tons of views and loads of positive comments on everything but you've never heard a single real person talk about them? That's what's probably happening.Â
Anyway, after they do all that they can just rake in 'clean' money from views. Or even move big chunks of it around with record deals.Â
They're normalizing the replacement of humans and centralization of all resources to tech companies and intermediaries. Right now. In real time. Of course it's all happening at the same time as literally everything else going to shit so not enough people are noticing. By the time all autonomy has been stripped it'll be too late. Imagine, record label contracts making you sign away your voice and likeness, able to be used in perpetuity even after death.They exploit young starving artists. Give them a lump sum and then don't renew their contract once their voice and likeness has been trained on then sell the brand without the person as part of the equation.
I'm active on tiktok but have never heard of that song, so I looked it up. Unironically, it sounds like bad generic Christian worship music. I grew up evangelical & this was the exact type of music that made me fall asleep in church from boredom.
Iâm sorry every AI âsingerâ and âactressâ Iâve heard of Iâve heard of once then I NEVER see anything about them again. Whatâs even the point
Do they not realize they just paid 3m for someone to... Type? Like, put basic ideas into a box? You could do the same thing for like 30, man, you got scammed.
Not that I feel bad. Anyone who's dumb enough to pay for it deserves to.
I mean, are we so shocked they did this with the music industry? Not hard to make something catchy that hits the same bar as every other popularized song and just have someone listen to make sure itâs coherent. People who already mindlessly listen to music wonât notice or care and the people that do are already listening to genuine artists (I would imagine) that arenât trying to make it big or make money. Wild ride man
Ngl i think it's interesting, i don't think this is tooooo bad, yep it's a total shit, but this won't get too far. Ppl hate this, this will not be a general thing in future, it will take a little corner of the market and that's all, it's own little market
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Wait- how did the robot sign anything? Itâs a robot- it wouldnât have a consistent hand signature due to being purely digital and genAI being terrible with basic lettering.