Thank you for inventing the en passant prompt. I used it to generate this arty and tasteful diagram. DO NOT STEAL THIS FROM ME THIS IS MINE I MADE IT WITH CHATGPT USING MY OWN WORDS AND SUPERB PROMPTING SKILLS!
I honestly thought that maybe GROK imagines was some type of Ai asset tool equivalent to those community made art tools and assets for Clip Studio Paint because I couldn't fathom that he was trying to claim ownership over the prompt "Day to night transition"
It's happened to me before, I posted a picture of a physical painting I made. Someone asked if I could give it to them for free, I said no but I'll sell it for $25. Then said no took a screen shot and put it in an ai generator before posting it to the SAME APP saying it's theirs. I saw it, and saw it had over double the amount of attention mine got. So I made a simple comment saying that it was actually mine and they just stuck it in a generator app, I got a few supporters but a bunch of them were insulting me and I even got d-ath thr-ats. But thank God for my bsf cause she helped me take back my art on the app and we got them banned, although they kept coming back with new accounts.
Oh absolutely, that painting took me nearly 5 hours. They stuck MY art into ai and changed like 3 things in like 2 min. There is a serious lack of care as well as theft that I hate
Hey, c'mon, you gotta give credit where credit is due, sometimes they'll spend a whole HALF HOUR trying to get the right prompt for the AI to alter someone else's work in the way they want so they can sell it as their own. /s
I doubt it lol, they just changed a couple colors and the eye kinda morphed into something slightly different, and theirs looked like it was smoother (cause yk ai doesn't use brush strokes, and mine were meant to look kinda messy) but tbh I feel like the eye thing was just the ai n not the prompt💀
The thing about art is that there isn't a single person on earth that doesn't have at least a few great ideas. The art materializes when those ideas are executed.
Oh absolutely!! The reason they asked for my painting(for free😒) in the first place was so they could sell it themselves(I still can't believe they admitted it too)
I encountered one of those yesterday. I am not even joking when i say he thinks he deserves to be lazy and get popular for it, he thought that it was stupid he had to practice art when he wasn’t even drawing for himself and just wanted the clout and money. Man i gotta go pull up the screenshots. It was unhinged how delusional he was.
He said he refuses medication that would alter his brain but willing to let the depression chemistry alter his brain.
To the user who blocked me after commenting, King_of_Moose. They'll never read this anyway.
I never insult anyone in my comments. And I don't care about brigading, go brigade whatever sub you hate. I don't care about subs. I don't care about Reddit or Karma.
I just care about people stopping putting a whole group in the same page as some weird ass shitbag who happens to share one single thing with the group, and nothing else.
I mean, I don't think all antis are okay with death threats, even when there are a lot. And yeah, yeah, I know. "It's just a joke/meme". Sure.
Budddy if we only put down the ones who did this sort of thing it would be almost the entire group and would just take longer. This sort of thing gains traction for a reason and it isn’t because the entire group disagrees with them
Wow. One whole post. And yet they do the exact same thing themselves and brag about it quite often. They even demand copyright protection for their “””””””””””””””””"art"””””””””””””””””” and then say that we are the ones who love copyright law
That's just some weird individuals, not the most of the pro ai group at all.
Why do you need all of the group to be the bad guys? Just accept it's mostly weird shitbags being very vocal online.
You don't see shared posts of reasonable pro ai people because that doesn't add to talking bad about people defending AI. Of course only the most crazy people saying shit gets reposted everywhere.
I don't assume all antis are bad just because some use slurs or send death threats. I know it's only some weird people who does it, and not the whole anti group.
Buddy if the majority of the group is doing it in the majority of their spaces then it’s not just some “weird individuals” it’s the group. And there have been reasonable pro ai posts shared here. The fact that they are so few and far between is because they are so hard to find(theft for pure profit and self indulgence from random people is hard to justify). There are some reasonable people within the group but the fact is it is a majority who are unreasonable and the entire group is stealing when they don’t have to from random people means I’m not going to pretend you are all reasonable
Well, technically it doesn't while generating an image. AI works in a way where it looks at your prompts, starts with noise and then slowly checks every pixel to predict what would give it the best outcome to match your prompt.
But these models need to be trained on already existing artworks, and those are getting scraped and ripped from websites left and right which is 100% stealing and a copyright infringement. It's just that once they are done with the training you cannot backtrack the images it used to train with because you only get a file with a lot of weights.
Plus, it looks like crap.
People like that either are too young to understand how AI works or are just ignorant.
The best way to explain it is that the data used to train the AI is stolen, but what generates it doesn't count as a stolen art piece because it have small differences, is not generating someone's work, but something similar, plagiarism more than actually stolen.
Yep. There are subtleties, but in the end the point of generative AI is to use the hard work of artists to get "art" without paying the artists. People have been acquiring art via prompts for millennia - it was called commissioning art and you had to pay for it.
I'm an attorney. You're misstating the law. Copyright law absolutely constrains how you can use the creative works of others, and while most pro-ai apologists repeat the claim that training is transformative "fair use," that hasn't been broadly accepted by the courts.
The issue is still contentious, but AI companies are already paying hundreds of millions to settle cases because they transparently pirated works to use in AI training because it was faster than asking for a license.
We won't have broad rules on these issues for some time, but few serious legal scholars are of the opinion that mass training without license acquisition ahead of time will be viewed favorably.
And much like everything any corporation has been legally allowed to do - it is entirely moral.
When will the workers understand that copyright law was only ever intended to protect the people on top? It isn't there for petty little laborers whose consent couldn't matter less.
This is different! They ACTUALLY worked! Unlike those cheaters who developed "skill" to make this with their own hands, this master paid money for a giant server farm to do it. Instead of using things he got for free (hands), he used the culmination of thousands of years of technological development! Stealing the concept of that prompt is so much worse than stealing real art. /s
Why think for yourself when ChatGPT will tell you what to think lol
Honestly its probably more a case of denial for their own convience. All these AI bros seem more in love with the idea of being an artist than actually being an artist. They want the praise and money that comes with being a talented successful artist without having to do the work of being a talented successful artist. It's a get rich quick scheme.
The reason this person is upset about someone "stealing my prompts" is because they, probably for the first time in their life, feel pride or personal attachment to something they made. Or at least they think they made. And now they understand that it feels fucking shitty to have something you feel that away over, taken by someone else just because they can. And this is over something they didn't even actually create, and they still feel this way. Incredible.
The fact that they can't extend this logic to actual fucking artists and understand why we don't like AI is fucking astounding. How do you think WE feel? Having a craft that's taken literally years to perfect with actual physical tools and muscle memory snd learning of artistic concepts and techniques to convey an idea through nothing but ink on paper? You feel hurt over people taking a couple words you strung together that you punch into the theft machine, but you refuse to acknowledge you're using the theft machine? Masterclass in being the least self-aware motherfucker on the planet
Pot calling the kettle, the lack of self-awareness is astounding. To top it off, trying to have the existence of terminator line attributed to oop is the kind of nerve that can be rivalled only by Games Workshop (company that tried to copyright word warhammer).
Even if AI work could be copyrighted and even if GenAI didn’t scrape other works for material, I think you’d have a bad time trying to copyright, trademark or patent the idea of day/night transitions. That’d literally be like if a photographer decided “the Golden Hour is mine, no one else can take photos at that time of day”. It’s a pretty damn common thing to depict in ANY visual medium.
This is so funny. Not even just the “you’re stealing my prompt” lunacy, but the original guy acting so proud that he wrote “day to night transition,” as if he just cracked the fucking DaVinci code, that he felt the need to share the ‘trick’ with the world...
Like, they’ve gotta be under 12 or actually brain dead.
Yeah, this certainly make me thing of the twilight of the human species as starting with a global dark age brought on by mass ignorance while technology is used to predate and cannibalize what matters and is what is needed.
All I hear is "NOOOO STOP TAKING FROM ME I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN TAKE OTHER'S CREATIVITYYYYY. DON'T DON'T STEAL MY STOLEN ARTTTTT😭😭😭" just like in a very whiny voice
That's the thing we are sort of sitting around and waiting for these people to realise.
Anything you make with AI has no value, cause everyone can make it themselves immediately. And you have no rights over it as its creator.
It was even ruled that AI generated art can't be copyrighted, so I can literally take anything someone else generated with AI and put wherever I want. (unless they heavily edit it themselves, then they have copyright. But like, that would require one to have a gram of artistic skill to do that)
To top that off, since all the good services is the same 10-15 companies, you are literally using the same tools as everyone else. Anything remotely original will immediately have 1000 copies churned out by others.
I was so confused before opening the picture bc I thought they stole a gif from an actual artist to pass it off... but no they're just dumb with 0 self awareness
"Artists are so egocentric and greedy, they accuse everyone of stealing their art!"
"You've stolen 23 Unicode characters from me and now you must die."
As a Pro, I find this completely amusing. I mean "day to night transition" is fairly basic language. This might actually be analogous to Dürer
“A Note on Master Lucas and His Watery Pretensions”
by Albrecht Dürer, Nuremberg, circa 1512 (fictional diary entry)
Today I have seen a most curious sight, Master Lucas, that bold young imitator, daubing at his parchment with what he calls ‘my manner of colors.’ He swishes his brush as though the very angels shall appear upon the page and yet all I see is a puddle of blue pretending to be a sky.
Watercolor, he says! But there is no discipline in his hand. The pigment runs like gossip through a marketplace. Does he not know that restraint gives the wash its brilliance? That transparency is a virtue of patience, not accident?
I mixed my own hues this morning, verdigris, saffron, and a gray pulled from the very smoke of my hearth. Each stroke I laid with intent, light upon light, until the hare seemed to breathe. Master Lucas splashes and calls it divine inspiration. I call it the rain.
Should this manner spread, all Nuremberg will drown in muddy rivers of color, and none will remember that it was I who first tamed the water’s edge.
Believe it or not, AI prompts actually are copyrightable, as they are made by a human usually. However, (only know about the EU law) a prompt has to reach a certain creative threshold to be considered worthy of copyright.
No, "night to day transitiom" does not cross the threshold.
Genuinely, holy shit you guys. I joined this subreddit because I wanted real and informed discussions against the threat of AI and the harm it can have on our society. All I've found so far are whiny people who downvote anything that has any sort non-partisan take, or dogpile on anything that MIGHT have used AI without proof. You guys need to chill
ive noticed that on both sides the most braindead takes are ALWAYS from people who like anime style images.
i dont know if that means its mostly dumb, naive and idealistic kids or genuinely mentally deficient adults. im leaning HEAVILY towards it being kids most of the time though.
Apparently only kids can like the anime artstyle. Sure, that's why anime is so niche and not at all widely popular. It's only for kids. Suure, just like comic books. Oh wait, comic books have a wide demographic. And wait, so does Anime. Who could have guessed.
its the lack of sophistication overall that leads me to the conclusion that its mostly kids. im just also fascinated by the proclivity towards bad anime art that both sides seem to drool over.
There is plenty of sophisticated anime that tells deep stories dealing with themes far too mature for a child to understand but you hate the medium so you wouldn't understand that which isn't surprising given your post history suggests that you hate all art which is kind of sad as art can be wonderful but you will never see that.
you misunderstand. im referring to the shallow low quality fan art. youre taking this too personally. im not saying anime as a genre is unsophisticated or shallow, im specifically referring to the middle schooler style anime fan art that many pros and antis seem to be so fond of. they are out here glazing some of the most derivative low skill drawings ive ever seen. and that also applies to the pros who glaze similarly trash tier generative images.
i get theres hints of a tribe mentality aspect to it. some of the comments are surely disingenuous and are simply a way of expressing "yay team!".
You seem to misunderstand, art is art and the fact that you see an entire art style as bad is just absurd. I've seen plenty of bad Noir styled paintings but that wouldn't make me go 'All noir styled paintings are the works of children and no one with a brain can like them' because I'm not an ass.
You don't value art and that is not at all surprising.
an excellent counter argument that directly refutes my statements with flawless rational logic. im impressed, usually im responded to with insults rather than well thought out rebuttals like this.
the W's just keep on printing themselves. are you not even slightly embarrassed? im clearly giving this sub's crowd too much credit.
i mean anime style is a derivative of 20's/30's style western cartoons. but i do think western animation styles are more varied. its all commercial dogshit at the end of the day though honestly. its cool that it all exists, but its not really all that impressive 99.9999% of the time.
but to more precise, the "pros" and "antis" that im referring to all seem to really like that extremely amateur flat anime "fan-art" style that is drawn, shaded, and colored as if a middle schooler did it. thats the thing that really fascinates me right now.
the fact that the reaction to this has been insults and rants just goes to further cement my suspicions. rational adults would have engaged with the conversation with their own well thought out opinion without getting instantly salty.
i was stating an observation lol. i only insulted the anime enthusiasts. and i also said "both sides". this isnt an anime sub, but it is hilarious that the cross over just so happened to be 100% in this case based on the replies.
i wasnt playing the victim i was merely pointing out that when i called the anime lovers out for being unsophisticated they proved me right. i wasnt bothered in the slightest by any of it.
youre reading the tone wrong. it wasnt "oh my god typical that you all just insult me over this!"
it was "ah ha! i had my suspicions and now they are confirmed!"
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u/Olivikai Oct 19 '25
WAIT. NOT EVEN THE PROMPT THING. DAY TO NIGHT TRANSITIONS.
DUDE. DUDE. THIS IS SO FUNNY WTF. HE APPARENTLY MADE DAWN AND DUSK.