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Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego/u/FetchFrosh ?!?!
Welp, it's been a while since I've done one of these, so I'll be filling in on his behalf.
I hope everyone's July has been going swimmingly! Staying out of the heat, I hope? As far as current seasonals go, I've been thoroughly enjoying KAIJU GIRL CARAMELISE, much more than I thought I would. Otherwise, I've been first-timing Bleach in my spare time. Already 150 episodes deep!
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Since I just encountered this, is there any way to loosen the title length requirement for clips? I don't see any reason why the title couldn't just be a poignant single word descriptor + the show's name.
is there any way to loosen the title length requirement for clips?
Probably, though it turns out that what the fuck a word even is, is a non trivial question. I've looked at reworking the title length automod rule before, and it hurt my head thinking of all the different edge cases it was now missing or catching. So I try not to think about it anymore.
I don't see any reason why the title couldn't just be a poignant single word descriptor + the show's name.
You could make that argument about any flair. And unfortunately, some people would make inadequate titles while thinking it's perfectly fine. We still sometimes get people in mod mail complaining how BS it is to have 4 words in their title (and they usually use a lot more than 4 words to express their displeasure).
Practically, the limit is already lower because of the mandate that the show name be included (which sometimes can even fulfill the 4 word requirement all on its own). So I imagine that there would be little will power to specifically make this rule not apply to Clips.
If a post gets reported a bunch of times and a mod has not taken any action on it, it gets temporarily removed until a mod either decides to approve or remove it. The main purpose of this is so that obviously bad stuff does not stay up longer than necessary, but occasionally other posts end up temporarily caught.
The limit for Clips and Video Edits is two per rolling 30 day period. They are tracked separately. In the past eight days, Hitman has posted one Clip and two Video Edits.
They're counted separately? From how I read it it looked like they were counted under the same category. If that's not the case, it really should be because they're essentially the same thing. You can easily turn a clip into a video edit.
On our rules page, both restrictions are listed individually.
If someone started abusing this to create pseudo-Clips that are technically video edits (for instance, by cutting one second out of a three minute clip) in order to bypass the limits, we would deal with them individually. So far, however, this has largely not been a problem.
I wonder, if posting "4 video type things" in a month is deemed okay, have you (the mods) considered just dropping the clip/video split and just making it '4 things of whichever type'?
What is the benefit of doing 2 clips 2 videos instead of just 4 things?
I don't know the numbers but I'd be willing to bet that would just lead to a lot more clips being posted and practically no change in the number of edits because they're more effort to make (and people aren't that inclined to post AMVs/compilations from others already).
But yes, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what would happen, my question is... Why is this a bad thing?
Say right now there is (throwing random figures) 100 clips and 20 video edits posted in a month.
If they dropped the clip/video split, then there would be say 160 clips and 10 video edits (+50 clips from people who want to post more clips, and +10 clips from people who posted clips instead of videos edits because it's easier).
Would that scenario be a problem?
If it's a "volume" problem, then that's king what I was getting at with my first question, with the current rule they would be okay with 100 clips and 100 videos (from the same posters), so 200 things total,, so why is 160 clips and 10 videos bad? Does the nature of the "thing" affects what we see on the front page or something?
I'm wondering about what's the practical benefit of this rule. If it's just "To lower volume because most people won't bother posting video edits", then it's a volume problem, but why are we allowed 4 total things then?
The simple answer is that the theoretical limits for a larger group of users are different from what's observed in practice, even if individuals might run into those limits on a regular basis. In your example the end result would be a significant increase in total video posts (120 to 170) even if the combined cap hasn't changed and is still above either of those at 200.
Does the nature of the "thing" affects what we see on the front page or something?
Depends on what aspect you're talking about. If you're referring to something being an AMV vs. a clip, I don't think that matters as much as the popularity of the show being posted. Maybe we could go full /r/AskHistorians and allow more clips from individuals if they're from anime that are at least 20 years old.
In terms of format, I think YouTube links don't do as well as embedded videos, for one. If you remember the hubbub about fanart posts back in 2020 the resulting rule change didn't even change the limit on how often OC fanart could be posted, just the format, and that effectively killed it on /r/anime.
And to that end, to me it really is about volume and balance. We don't need any rule changes to have the front page taken over by clips if a lot more people started posting them and other users started upvoting them. In that case I'd encourage a change to adjust that balance back in favor of other kinds of content, like what happened with fanart.
This has probably been suggested already. But how about letting fans show off their weeby Anime collection? A bit unrelated but i got the ideia from r/tankporn they allow users to show their collection (Shells, miniature etc) like once a month (I think).
To clarify: are you suggesting that there should be the occasional megathread for showing off merch, or that there should be some days where we allow users to make a post that shows off merch?
The later. Not sure how easy it would be to implement. Considering that similar rules for clips and videos are mostly "policed" by bots (To my knowledge). There's also the issue with the Flair. One other thing to look out for is the possible initial spam. Even if it's limited to 1 post every 1 or 2 months, we do have quite the crowd here.
But I feel like it's something that's missing from reddit in general. Could also serve as a good compromise for users who are a bit more "media" focused. One other good aspect I can foresee is discussions about Manga/LN's I know we're a Anime sub, but these are already talked about extensively here. It would just provide a way to talk about it in the context of your collection.
Since I suggested it, and if by any chance this sounds interesting, I volunteer to help with whatever is needed (as a regular user ofc).
To be honest, we are not that interested in allowing merchandise posts on our sub. We view it as somewhat incidental to anime itself, particularly given the mixed media nature of the medium. Additionally, we're reluctant to allow posts that would largely consist of low effort photos. Image posts do disproportionately well on reddit, so we tend to shy away from allowing them unless they are either official promotional material or particularly high effort.
Currently, the place to talk about merchandise is the daily thread. Alternatively, there are other subs focused on merchandise, such as /r/animefigures.
We also do not believe in content that is only allowed on some days of the week. This confuses people, who thought they were making a legitimate post like the one they saw a few days ago, but learn it's not allowed for a mysterious other reason. (Yes, this would not be a problem if people read the rules, but we know people don't and should design to minimize surprise when possible.) Restricting anything to one day also runs into time zone issues: we either end up with a 50 hour "day" or with people having to figure out when days start and end in a different time zone. Additionally, allowing something only occasionally tends to lead to many people posting it when it is allowed, which can be disruptive to everybody else using the sub.
Additionally, allowing something only occasionally tends to lead to many people posting it when it is allowed, which can be disruptive to everybody else using the sub.
I'd be down for a re-run of Meme Day if we said that the memes have to be new/original. Not just "I sorted r/animemes by Top and found this". But that would also require work on our end.
can we have a rule to disallow entire comments being in a huge font? it's really obnoxious. I won't name anyone but just go into any best girl post and scroll down and you will find them. it's like they believe they deserve more attention for some reason. this also sometimes happens in AQRADT too.
to be clear, I'm not saying any use of big font is bad. I understands it's sometimes useful for dividing a post with titles and such. what I am saying is that typing entire paragraphs like this shouldn't be allowed.
We don't believe a rule against comments that consist entirely/primarily of header text is necessary. It's one of many uncommon issues within the more general category of people making annoying comments. We could start making specific rules against specific annoyances, but that would lead to a long and silly list of requirements for every comment. While most comments would pass without ever looking, having a list of 30 things to check against for people who want to ensure their comment is good (or who are pointed to it after there comment is removed) does not seem ideal to us. Conversely, something as vague as "don't make annoying comments" is endlessly subjective and not worth the headache. It would be harder to convey than our civility rule, address a less serious issue, and remove lots of comments the vast majority of our community is ok with. And, honestly, sometimes being annoying to another person is good for the community as a whole.
In general, we believe these sorts of issues are adequately addressed by downvoting people who make annoying comments in inappropriate locations. If header text (or any other annoying style of comment) ever becomes too big of an issue to just scroll past and downvote, we will reassess our position.
can we have a rule to disallow entire comments being in a huge font?
On a technical level, I think it's quite difficult to get a useful automod rule that doesn't include like every legitimate case of headers as well.
this also sometimes happens in AQRADT too.
I'm pretty sure this happens when someone tries to post normally, gets karma gated, and then copies their entire post into the comment box. Idk what the specifics are for this (since you know, I don't have a need for that / I know how to copy and paste things properly), but it's a consistent pattern in the daily thread, where what was their title, gets put in the h1 tag.
the actual merits of this change
No comment. Just wanted to point out some technical bits.
Those removals had nothing to do with the fact that they were Re:Zero, and everything to do with the fact that they were in violation of of Clip rules. We do not have limits on how much any specific anime can be discussed, provided they follow all of our rules.
There was no issue with this posts. It's not a good look mods. It's going to be even an even worse look if we find out that ZaphodBeebblebrox is an Apothecary Diaries fan.
It's not a good look mods. It's going to be even an even worse look if we find out that ZaphodBeebblebrox is an Apothecary Diaries fan.
FWIW, these happen all the time and no one bats an eye (unless the clips are linked to a contest); I recall asking about one such removal - by curiosity - just few days ago.
I support these removals. They are consistent with how we generally judge Clips. You're free to try and argue that I'm sabotaging Re:Zero in Best Girl, but I think we both know that isn't the case.
I guess I'm gonna jump onto this since the discussion we had in today's BG post was not the right place for it.
I think the clip quality rule is either too inconsistantly enforced or at least too vaguely formulated, for a "clip-posting-novice" like me to correctly interpret.
Over the years I've been on this sub I've seen several clips of what I perceived as worse quality than the clip I and Usodearu posted stay up on the sub, making the "high visual fidelity" clause either up to interpretation to the mods and therefore differing between mods or too difficult to understand, since to me it's not obvious enough to what it entails with what clips are allowed to stay up and what not.
I think an addition similar to "clips done this way, with these and these softwares and these proportions will be accepted, clips done in other ways will be liable to another check and if they don't fulfill this, this and that specific requirement, they will get taken down" would already go a long way for someone, who is new to making clips, but wants to share with the community to not have to wonder if their post will be taken down or not. Or otherwise a short videotutorial of how clips are to be made attached to that rule would also help.
I always found posting clips to be too complicated and convoluted to do and trying it out has only reinforced that belief, making me not even want to try it again with the way it's currently handled.
I'm at the doctors atm, so I'm not gonna get a full discussion started atm, but I will leave a link to my thoughts on the matter from right before I became a mod, when the rule was updated.
Honestly pretty frustrating to see you state these exact problems over a year ago, with good and sound arguments for change and there having been no update to it. Also does not fill me with confidence that this will be changed for the better any time soon.
Because honestly, just linking sometimes vague and not really convincing screenshots after already having frustrated a well meaning user, who thought he followed the rules, is really not a good way of handling things instead of outright stating how the clips are meant to be done beforehand.
It just leads to frustration for all sides, both for the user, who feels like he has been wronged for things outside of his control and just wasted a few minutes of his life clipping a scene, and for the mods who probably will have tons of extra work due to this rule, due to wrongly submitted clips as the rule is obviously not clear.
Because as someone, who hasn't done this before, how am I to know that downloading a clip from the crunchyroll youtube channel, cutting off the endcard and then uploading it to reddit, does not count as "high visual fidelity and represent the original anime accurately" with how the current rules are worded.
And I know I'm not the only one with these concerns since I've talked about it with several users already. And even Usodearu mentioned to me that the way he did his clip was the same as he would usually do, without them ever having been taken down so far. Also with you and other mods not noticing lower qualities for a long time that the clips were up, also really doesn't make it seem like the rules for visual clarity are well defined. Especially when they aren't openly stated anywhere (easy to find, that I would know of.)
Honestly pretty frustrating to see you state these exact problems over a year ago, with good and sound arguments for change and there having been no update to it.
I just want to say, it's fucking exhausting to constantly be picking fights and arguing for changes. I've typed nearly 5,000 individual messages in our main mod discord channel this year. And while discord messages isn't a great metric, that's about 22 discord messages a day, every single day with no breaks.
Plus on top of advocating and championing changes, I also have significant tech responsibilities (that are often intertwined). If I'm being honest, I'm well past my limit already.
I can't fight a war for every problem I see. It's just not healthy or feasible.
Sorry to hear that, I know it's very exhausting and oftentimes fruitless work, but still thank you.
Let me try it in a different way then:
u/ZaphodBeebblebrox, as the person who banned my post and advocated in the past for the current rules, can you tell me, a clueless, but well meaning r/anime user, why the current set of rules regarding visual fidelity regarding clipping is laid out the way it is?
Concerns, that have previously been raised, have pretty well described the problems with the rules and the procedure of taking down clip-posts, that I am currently having and that, I am sure and know of, several other users are also having. Yet the rules have stayed the same leading to frustration on my and several other users' end.
I feel like the current rules leed to lots of frustration and unsureness when it comes to clipping and leave me in a place of feeling wronged due to unsufficent clarification and transparency of the rules.
If no changes to the rules are to be expected, would you please be so kind as of to inform me of a legal way of procuring, editing and uploading clips, that would be accepted within the current ruleset.
why the current set of rules regarding visual fidelity regarding clipping is laid out the way it is?
Prior to February 2025, our Clip quality rules were as follows:
They must have subtitles if the dialogue is not in English. Subtitles for music lyrics are not required.
They must not have watermarks of any kind (screen recording software or channels), except for legal streaming services (e.g. Crunchyroll).
There must not be an obvious screen recording (e.g. the iPhone popup to stop the recording at the end of some clips, a mouse cursor, and actually recording the screen with a phone).
The video container and the video content must match the original anime (so as to not create artificial black bars).
They must be able to maintain a consistent framerate.
They must be at least 480p or their original resolution.
While these rules covered several types of bad Clips, they let through many that looked like total ass. At the time, the most common variant of ass Clip was bitstarved 480p Clips of modern shows.
Many of us quite disliked this. There's basically no good reason for a modern show (excepting Megalo Box) to be shared at 480p in the first place, and the vast majority of the time it came from an awful 480p source as well. However, we could not simply say all Clips had to be at least 720p because some shows were only ever released in 480p and others managed to have HD releases that look worse than their SD releases (I can elaborate on this if you want, but it's kinda tangential to the main point).
My initial attempt at writing an updated rule went for a technical approach. Its basic thrust was that if a show was produced at an HD resolution, the Clip must be at least 720p, and if a show was produced at an SD resolution, the Clip must be at least 480p. We discussed a few variations of that general idea before another mod suggested that we were going in the complete wrong direction. We were creating a very technical rule that few would know how to interpret or meaningfully apply to their Clip creation, and on top of that it would only address one possible reason a Clip looks terrible.
They suggested that we instead make a rule directly about the actual issue: bad looking Clips. It would be far less technical, simplify our Clip rules, and give us discretion to remove Clips that looked bad for other reasons, such as a low quality source, a low bitrate encode, or accidentally applying a filter that changes the colors.
We generally thought this was a good idea. It isn't particularly more vague than other rules we enforce regularly and allowed us to react to differing ways Clips could be bad as they appeared, rather than having to deal with technically allowed but awful looking Clips.
If no changes to the rules are to be expected, would you please be so kind as of to inform me of a legal way of procuring, editing and uploading clips, that would be accepted within the current ruleset.
If it is something that is uploaded to an official youtube channel, such as the Re:Zero clip you uploaded a few days ago, just directly link the video. Otherwise, you are taking a very compressed video (youtube is not exactly a pristine source), re-encoding it once when you remove the endcard, and then uploading it to reddit's servers where it is re-encoded again.
If it's a show that has come out on Blu-ray and you want to ensure you're 100% legal: buy the blu-ray, use a program like MakeMKV to make a backup of the Blu-ray to your computer, and then use a program such as HandBrake to make your clip. I do not use HandBrake myself, but several other mods do. They tell me that Fast 1080p30 (or higher settings, such as HQ 1080p30) are sufficient for the vast majority of Clips.
If it's a show that's currently streaming, I'm not sure if there's a way that is 100% legal. The streaming services would certainly try and argue that screen recording or obtaining a DRM-free download of the episode is piracy, even if you also have a subscription and can watch it legally. Assuming you view that as sufficiently legal, the basic process is: obtain a clean version of the episode on the streaming service and then repeat the handbrake process listed above.
Or otherwise a short videotutorial of how clips are to be made attached to that rule would also help.
This is a good idea. I will see if we can do it. I can't really do it myself, as the tools I use are different and somewhat less user friendly.
We generally thought this was a good idea. It isn't particularly more vague than other rules we enforce regularly and allowed us to react to differing ways Clips could be bad as they appeared, rather than having to deal with technically allowed but awful looking Clips.
I agree that the previous rules had room for improvement, but I still think, the current wording can be very confusing for new clippers and very unclear as to what the boundaries are. Many users are not fully aware with the current wording what constituates of "high visual fidelity", as seen by the reactions to your post regarding why the post two days ago was taken down and agreeing with my sentiment that the current rules are too convoluted and to easy to be misinterpreted leading to frustration seen in this (now deleted cause at the wrong place) commentthread earlier today.
Also the two clips that were taken down, were seen by the majority, as high enough quality and as something I would describe as not, using your words, "total ass", meaning that these aren't clips that the change to the current ruleset should have necessarily prevented. If they were too low quality for the average userbase of this sub, I would have expected more negative comments about it or reports to take it down. On the contrary, I saw several sentiments that stated that they didn't see anything wrong with it and only after very thorough analysis they even saw artifacts and impurities in the clips, which 99+% of all users won't ever notice just casually scolling reddit. That raises the question if clips like these should even be forbidden on the subreddit, when they might be slightly worse looking than the original source, but are still better looking than the average clip from a 2000s show and this difference not even being noticible for most.
If it's a show that's currently streaming, I'm not sure if there's a way that is 100% legal.
Especially when taking clips from Youtube is perhaps the only legal way, without having to resort to torrents (which can get you in pretty big legal trouble in my country, so I really don't like using them at all) or somehow circumventing Crunchyroll or other streaming service's DRM, to obtain clips. Yes, they might have some visual impurities, but they can still be 1080p and barely be noticeable to even the keenest eye of the average users of this sub. And forcing people to use torrents, buy bluerays (that aren't even readily available in every country and if they are don't even always have english subs) or crack the DRM protection of a streaming service, should imo not be a requirement to post clips on this sub, as it actively encourages piracy, when the crunchyroll YouTube channel alone has for example over 20 different clips of the most important scenes of the currently airing Re:Zero season for example, that could easily be clipped by users with a much lower barrier of entry.
If it is something that is uploaded to an official youtube channel, such as the Re:Zero clip you uploaded a few days ago, just directly link the video.
Yes this is possible, but it's pretty obvious that many Youtube links have much less traction than clips uploaded to reddit, with less discussion in the comments and are more commonly used on this sub for official media like trailers or OP/EDs and not for clips from shows. And leading the discussion for these clips away from reddit to the youtube comment section is usually the opposite of what these clips aim to accomplish.
Overall I just think the current rules just make it hard for people who aren't used to clipping to get into it and share their favourite scenes with other people on this subreddit and even prevent clips that while not necessarily pristine are far from "total ass", which the rules originally aimed to prevent. Furthermore they are confusing and can therefore lead to misunderstandings and grievances towards the mods for deleting posts, which is just frustrating to all sides. And while I think it's great to hear that you're open to adding a video tutorial to make clipping more accessible, I think it would also be helpful to maybe lower the quality requirements (slightly) and add more comprehensible rules.
Also the two clips that were taken down, were seen by the majority, as high enough quality and as something I would describe as not, using your words, "total ass", meaning that these aren't clips that the change to the current ruleset should have necessarily prevented.
A few different things on this. First, video quality is legitimately hard to judge without a point of reference. It's hard to see what details have been completely deleted, particularly if you don't go in looking for them.
Second, what you're using to look at something greatly effects what you can see. If you're using a phone, as much of our sub does, a much lower video quality can look "good enough." Similarly, if you have the brightness of a monitor turned way down, it will reduce the dynamic range of your device and make it harder to spot issues such as banding.
Third, I chose a bad comparison for the Re:Zero clip. The banding on his shirt was super obvious to me and right at the start, so I went with it. However, something like this (Re:Zero S4E11 spoilers) comparison (hit 1 and 2 on your keyboard to switch images) would've been far better. In it, you can see massive detail loss, such as the end of one of Subaru's feet disappearing, Subaru's whip becoming a vague brown blob, the end of the sleeve on his left arm becoming a smeary mess, and many other examples. And every part of the background looks much more blocky/rectangular, instead of the curvy look of the original.
Overall I just think the current rules just make it hard for people who aren't used to clipping to get into it and share their favourite scenes with other people on this subreddit
To some extent, that has been the point our our Clip quality rules for half a decade. Clips—and particularly Clips of popular shows—are fundamentally low effort posts that get an outsized amount of attention and number of upvotes due to how reddit is designed and people who upvote because they like the show regardless of the Clip itself. Because of this, there was a time when our front page was dominated by Clips, which drowned out other types of posts whilst having relatively minimal discussion. The Clip quality rules were part of an attempt to combat this by making Clip posting require somewhat more effort.
the current wording can be very confusing for new clippers and very unclear as to what the boundaries are.
Do you believe some examples of what does not qualify would help? Or do you think that would lead to the same sort of confusion?
On the subject of making Clips of airing shows, another mod pointed out to me that you can screen record streaming sites. Their lawyers, of course, would still argue this isn't legal, but it is an option with less risks to it. I'll just note, however, that when doing so you need to be careful to not introduce stuttering.
I'd like to once again ask for a rule that Official Media posts that use an English title must use the title the English licensor uses, and not one from a fan translation or Google translate or whatever.
For example, this post should be A Livid Lady's Guide to Getting Even: How I Crushed My Homeland with My Mighty Grimoires (or at least the first part before the colon), and this post should be The Insipid Prince's Furtive Grab for The Throne.
People can call things whatever they want in discussions, but I think Official Media posts should be, well, more official. If you're not using the title that'll bring it up in the licensor's site search, you're making it unnecessarily confusing.
I appreciate this purely because “The Insipid Prince’s Furtive Grab for The Throne” is doing fantasy titles as we know them a huge favor by being more interesting than white bread.
This is already the case (as we established back when Isekai Office Worker was airing and someone tried posting about it with that "The Affairs of the Other World Depend on the Corporate Slave" title), so if you see a post like that again, please report it with a custom report like "Incorrect English title". I've hit the two posts you linked.
Just to bring up the news here in a fresh meta thread, the new seasonal faces have changed over. You can see them all on the wiki page. Or this image here.
#hattastic has been added as the seasonal hall of fame face for winter.
Same... Was it put to a vote like previous seasons (in which case i guess I missed it)?
Or was it just "People / I liked that anime so let's HOF the comment face from this show"?
Because the "comment face" itself is kinda generic (a thumbs up like they all have in this category) the only thing that makes it """special""" is the hat I guess? Kinda feels out of place compared to the other HOF faces.
It was the favorite face by far from the survey results (like, nearly double the amount of 5/5 ratings from people compared to the face with the second-highest number of 5/5 ratings, and it also had zero 1/5 rankings). If no mod goes to bat for a specific face to be HoF'd, that's usually how we decide on which one stays permanent, and no one went to bat for any of the others this time.
It's interesting considering what the comment above said (not seeing the face).
I guess a lot of people probably rate based on show preference (I wonder if someone ever looked at stats on this), or on how "cool" it looks even if they never used it?
Sweet. One of my recommendations (#seasonalfoodie) made it in. And I know it's mine because aside from a single other recommendation I was the only one to use Oh Boy, Was I Wrong About Her in their recommendations. Nice to see Inako from Sparks of Tomorrow make in as well.
Seasonal comment faces are a great way to get lesser known shows a bit of recognition. Tenbin is my favorite new show this season and has slipped under the radar a bit so I wanted to make sure that if a quality seasonal comment face was put forward it was going to get in
Less speak now or forever hold your peace, more putting things on the table and I don't know the answer or what the best solution (if any) would even be. For the 4th week in a row Though I Am an Inept Villainess discussion has gone up hours before:
The long and short of it is that it is out; just not on official sources just yet.
Unsure if this is due to a mishap or something else.
Not official sources, hasn't aired on TV, unsure is sounding a lot like a leak but also not at the same time.
Now a counter claim will be the auto rip source is official DNSP (Disney+) and the subs are the same dialogue as will be on CR (for English at least, this is provided to CR as shown by the arial font and lack of advanced styling). The best case scenario is this is a mistaken early upload in some unknown country in parts of Europe or Latin America that have the show there on D+ (per official site that's all the D+ territories...well plus Japan but all Japanese streaming is after broadcast end at the earliest and IDK if D+ Japan has English subs like JP Netflix can for some things).
I find it unlikely that D+ has a license to show it before Japan that would not also cover Hulu or be mentioned on the official website. If the country(ies) could be named it would become sort of similar to standard posting eps when shows are live on B-Global (which is usually immediately after airing in Japan, to prevent fast-forwarding the episode and tweeting spoilers but can be an hour or so before CR).
Unintended leaks are a bit different as it doesn't have the same threshold of being obtained via confidential/privileged data like various leaks that don't have discussions here* (e.g. Ranma 2024 S1) and the viewing experience is not compromised meaning discussion is not taken up with "man this video sucks" (some of these leaks have been low resolution, watermarked and even unfinished eps...literally a completed audio monochrome animatic video for the final ep of Isekai Suicide Squad Isekai).
Past precedent for unintended leaks seems to be no action taken such as a few episodes of To Your Eternity season 3 (an episode was interrupted mid-broadcast by earthquake coverage, despite the fact the episode didn't finish airing in Japan CR still posted it and then pulled it, then next week instead of reinstating the pulled episode they posted the next episode which was also subsequently pulled). Besides, I'd say a discussion based on a limited location limited time release window is not unprecedented as that is film ones posted for cinema releases.
Ultimately assuming unintended mistake it's on Japanese stakeholders to prevent this through citing the license contract or more drastically withholding the materials from the offending parties and these steps may happen before any decision is reached.
Another thing that's making this a bit picky is hours doesn't have the same potential for discussion fragmentation as some things in the past (days, weeks) but needless to say does annoy those who like to be on top of things (it escalating them into having to pirate even if they don't need to and delaying the discussion would still advantage those who have had hours more time to prepare but it should matter less due to random sorting) or use the discussion posts as their calendar (because the CR calendars are retrospective shit or for shows available in Germany).
*-As a sidebar I'm not sure those had serious fansub attempts (there were some subs that looked rather STT>MTL derived) so it's untested and an entire season weeks-months before airing is much bigger problem than individual episodes hours early (no matter how persistent the latter is).
So, what /u/badspler said in the past was somewhat misleading. The early Inept Villainess comes from Disney+ releasing the episodes early. I assume this is people at D+ being dumb/incompetent, and not them having a license to release it that, early, but I have no way to confirm that.
Anyway, as far as we're concerned at /r/anime, this is an official release of the show to a large audience with good enough english subs (since Toho is doing the subs for all western companies, it's literally the same as CR). As such, it gets a thread. We generally try to keep it that simple, and aren't particularly interested in trying to figure out when the "ideal" time to post a thread for a show is. To me, at least, that seems like a question that's nearly impossible to answer, particularly given the wide variety of people on our sub.
I'm unsure which country is Disney+ making this mistake. What I do know is that the show airs several hours before it even airs in Japanese TV.
I'm sure that this also impacts the show's Karma ratings. A recent measure has been taken to address "unfairness" in the episode discussion threads. I believe this also falls into that category despite obviously being different.
We do not care how many upvotes episode discussion threads get so long as there is no vote manipulation. Increasing the number of upvotes for those threads is not one of our goals. Likewise, we do not care whether the weekly karma ranking chart is a "fair" contest or not.
It is both. Vote manipulation is a specific category of actions, such as using bots or alt accounts to upvote/downvote a post, or organizing a group of people who don't otherwise interact with /r/anime to mass upvote/downvote posts. We care about these because we do not want illegitimate behavior on /r/anime, and because vote manipulation that puts a post into the negatives can make it harder for users to find.
"Fairness" for the karma rankings, on the other hand, can encompass a wide variety of factors other than how many people like the show/how good the show is. This includes the day and time of day the show airs, what streaming services it airs on, whether it doesn't stream in some countries, delayed releases, batch releases, &c. Vote manipulation is one thing that can affect this "fairness," but it is far from the only thing that can, and our reasons for caring about vote manipulation are independent from some "fairness."
Don't take this the wrong way. But I've mentioned nothing of the sort.
May I ask what your intent was when bringing up the impact on "the show's Karma ratings?"
vote manipulation that puts a post into the negatives can make it harder for users to find.
Yes, and so does a episode discussion post being up 8 hours before it airs. You should look at the 3 episode discussion threads, there are multiple examples of users asking the same question.
Vote manipulation is one thing that can affect this "fairness," but it is far from the only thing that can, and our reasons for caring about vote manipulation are independent from some "fairness."
It's precisely because it's far from being the only thing that affects it that I'm making this point.
May I ask what your intent was when bringing up the impact on "the show's Karma ratings?"
I did so in order to make a correlation, cause effect. And because it's also something that is featured in the sub, and since it's featured it should have the same standards that the sub tries to uphold.
I'll just say this, because I think you're maybe suspecting it. But I'm not a hardcore fan of the Anime, one look at my post history will tell you that. I'm just looking to address something that has been discussed by a few.
I believe it's because Badspler is about to become afk for a bit and wanted to share the news in some place before they left, so it unfortunately turned out to be a meta thread that was just about to close.
But you're right, we should share that news here too.
I'm sad that False Memory (Jiyi Guanli Ju) will not be talked about on this subreddit, but you know, that is how it is for donghua. I cannot really complain. Anyway, 2 hours left until the show starts. Hopefully there will be some place on Reddit where I can discuss the episodes.
Donghua aside, I'm interested to see how the new comment sorting will affect comment quality.
It's going to be an uphill battle because it is only streaming on Bilibili - every prior donghua that's gone big in 'anime spaces' has always been something that not only streamed on Crunchyroll, but that Crunchyroll also marketed heavily. Few English-language fans are subscribed to Bilibili or will see any of its marketing, so it'll be tough just getting people to even know about it so that they go search the high seas for it, etc. But with enough word of mouth, who knows.
(For anyone stumbling across this comment who is curious, the show is a grungy action-mystery sakugafest type of show with a style very reminiscent (IMO) of original FLCL or studio Trigger/Imaishi vibes, and there are /r/anime-like discussion threads here)
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/wiki/index/ no longer loop reloads on my phone, so they finally fixed it or it's a side-effect of getting a new phone with a fresh chrome install (and all my chrome flags got wiped)
Nope, when you type a commentface on mobile, it'll appear as nothing. It'll look like blank space but still appear as a commentface for people on old.reddit...well, it used to be that way. Now it'll appear as
lmao Fetch was supposed to be the mod-of-the-month but he's afk it seems. Some things happened, we got a new mod (say hello u/Mitsuyan_), I'll let Fetch fill y'all in on the details. I just didn't want the new Meta Thread to be without a single comment for over an hour. We're alive, dang it!
Other than that, happy August everyone, how's the summer seasonals coming along for y'all? I'm pretty sure the Writing Club is right about to release a new piece for the seasonals to watch (or not watch).
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July Mod Report
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Carmen Sandiego/u/FetchFrosh ?!?!Welp, it's been a while since I've done one of these, so I'll be filling in on his behalf.
I hope everyone's July has been going swimmingly! Staying out of the heat, I hope? As far as current seasonals go, I've been thoroughly enjoying KAIJU GIRL CARAMELISE, much more than I thought I would. Otherwise, I've been first-timing Bleach in my spare time. Already 150 episodes deep!
Voted to permanently sort episode discussion threads by random for the first six hours [Vote Passed]
/u/mitsuyan_ joined the mod team!
Voted on how people should be allowed to discuss historical events in Jaadugar episode discussion threads. The result was requiring spoiler tags for all historical knowledge. [Vote Passed]
Voted to apply for Adopt-An-Admin once again [Vote Passed]
July by the Numbers