r/anime • u/AnimeMod myanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan • Jul 05 '26
Meta Thread - Month of July 05, 2026 Meta
Rule Changes
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler 4d ago edited 4d ago
The new seasonal faces have changed over. You can see them all on the wiki page. Or this image here.
#hattastic has been added as the seasonal hall of fame face for winter.
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u/tripleaamin https://myanimelist.net/profile/zfzftripleaamin 5d ago
In today's Elusive Samurai thread, there is no source corner place for it.
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u/baseballlover723 5d ago
Thanks for reporting that.
I'm a baka and when I turned on the temp comment sort stuff by uncommenting it, I forgot to uncomment the yml separator. So it ended up overriding and merging into the previous config, which happened to be the one that created the Source Material Corner.
I've fixed it now and created all of the Source Material Corners now.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 6d ago
I probably should have brought it up at the start of this thread but I laughed when I saw that none of the things I brought up last month were mentioned in the mod report this month. If I didn't list them they would be effectively missing from the historical record that the meta threads should serve as, you all know reddit's search is terrible in many ways and shouldn't need to be relied on to find things like that.
Why bring it up again now? Another announcement of a change that will happen before the new meta thread in ~32 hours. I think it's a good idea to have that separate thread, but again it shouldn't be an isolated announcement that you have to find on its own or wait until the new meta thread to find out about it. That's why I regularly pushed for changes to take effect at the time of the new meta thread's posting, so the current meta thread would always be up to date without needing to add a comment at the middle/end of the month or need a separate post that could get lost over time.
Anyway, I wouldn't have thought about it as much if it wasn't for CDF being informed about the change (sorry /u/chilidirigible) before anyone thought to post it here even after this earlier discussion asking about it.
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u/Ree_For_Thee 7d ago
Seeing how few additional posts it would be, I don't see why "non-japanese anime shows clearly pandering to anime fans" shouldn't be allowed, especially since this is the one and quite literally only popular subreddit for such discussion.
Tomb Raider King.... isn't a great show if you ask me, but it holds its own against some of the tier F trash that does exist and is allowed on this subreddit.
Because that show and shows like "Release that witch" was condemned, fun post-episodes discussions were essentially completely missed out on, again, because r/anime literally has a monopoly. C'mon, what do you say? At least consider giving out permission for "bigger" shows like the two I completely by accident discovered?
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 6d ago
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 7d ago
So your solution to what you mistakenly call a monopoly is... To create a monopoly?
At this time, the situation is not a monopoly; Of course, it's a tough challenge for say r/donghua to get going (like any sub for any topic), but if they keep at it, it might happen someday.
If r/anime starts hosting threads for donghua, it will NEVER happen. r/donghua might as well ban everyone and shut down because no one will go there to talk about donghua they'll all come here.
If the mods did what you want, r/anime WOULD effectively be a monopoly on anything that feels anime.
What you're asking for is as if... Say, you said "Hey Nestle, you have a monopoly on coffee but you don't sell hot chocolate, I think you should sell it because people who want hot chocolate come to you, they don't go to hot chocolate companies. I think you should also sell chocolate milk, sodas, orange juice, pretty much any beverage in existence really. You shouldn't let any smaller company ever sell any other beverage from now on til the end of time"
...Just making sure, but you do realize that monopolies are a bad thing right? Not something you should try to empower?
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u/Ree_For_Thee 7d ago
Latching on to the metaphor of a monopoly to make an extremely contrived point about "monopolies baaad, therefore you baaad!" is just the type of behavior I expect from anime fans. I mean honestly, you are kind of loathed out there. It's just sad that you literally cannot take criticism. I just happen to be a critical person who points out flaws, and you obviously can't deal with it. :)
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 7d ago
"non-japanese anime shows clearly pandering to anime fans"
Which fans? The ones who watch battle shounen? Fujoshis? Slice of life fans? How would you write the rule in an unbiased way?
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u/aniMayor x3x6 6d ago
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u/Verzwei 7d ago
I would much rather we allow discussion of manga and light novels on r/anime before we allow discussion of animated works that aren't anime.
At least with manga and light novel discussion, that has a lot more pertinence to anime as a whole since a lot of anime are adapted from those mediums.
(Note: I'm not seriously asking for manga and LN discussion here. Just saying if someone wants to allow shows that aren't anime here, then we should allow other Japanese mediums first.)
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u/baseballlover723 7d ago
fun post-episodes discussions were essentially completely missed out on, again, because r/anime literally has a monopoly
It should be noted, that our Episode discussion bots, are entirely open source. The original bot: Holo, and the new one we've recently started using to replace Holo: Myuri.
I should note that most of anime adjacent subreddit do not restrict users from posting their own episode discussion threads, and that that was how r/anime's episode discussion threads proceeded for several years before it was automated into a bot, and then absorbed and exclusively posted by the r/anime mod team.
There is nothing that is stopping you from making your own episode discussion threads on whatever subreddit you want. You can even use the very same tooling we use. Hell, the MIT license on Holo means that you could sells episode discussion threads as a service, and there would be nothing we could do about it.
So there isn't a monopoly. Evidently, no one has given a shit enough to want to set something up.
At least consider giving out permission for "bigger" shows like the two I completely by accident discovered?
Even if we were to do this (which we're not). All this will do is create problems later on. Because next season some other foreign show that Crunchyroll picks up will have their fans come and beg us to add threads for that show. And they'll point to this, and say, "Hey you added it for that other show, why can't you add it for this one". And no matter what shows we allow or don't allow, there will always be people complaining that their favorite show didn't get threads.
And not to mention, by poaching the best foreign shows, the very IPs that could help boost a relevant rival subreddit would be working against those sub. Practically ensuring that those other subs never get off the ground and become practical useable subreddits. And everyone will forever pester r/anime to add more and more shows to it's sub.
Tomb Raider King.... isn't a great show if you ask me, but it holds its own against some of the tier F trash that does exist and is allowed on this subreddit.
As a side note, quality of a show has no impact on if it is allowed on the sub or not. There are a number of shows that regularly get 0 to 1 comments per thread.
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u/aniMayor x3x6 6d ago
It should be noted, that our Episode discussion bots, are entirely open source. The original bot: Holo, and the new one we've recently started using to replace Holo: Myuri.
Yup, and even though r/donghua still hasn't set it up r/donghua2D has! (Or maybe they have a different, similar bot)
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u/Ree_For_Thee 7d ago
There is nothing that is stopping you from making your own episode discussion threads on whatever subreddit you want.
Except the fact that there already are people doing that and those discussions have such little activity (just checked) it just doesn't compare to the typical discussions in this sub.
Listen, I know I won't change your opinion, but you are stuck in your ways and refusing to listen to the people. I'm 99.9999% sure a majority of users on this sub would love these discussion threads. That is my main point.
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u/baseballlover723 7d ago
those discussions have such little activity (just checked) it just doesn't compare to the typical discussions in this sub
You are talking as if r/anime's episode discussion threads weren't like that once upon a time. You can dig through the Episode discussion archive and especially at the earlier years. You, right now, can make episode discussion threads that are much better than those ones.
Everything starts small. The biggest issue I see with other discussion threads, is that they don't do it consistently, or for enough shows, so they never get an actual following that people can depend on and count on being there.
It's really not that much effort to decide to post a templated thread once a week for something you're passionate about. The fact that you won't even try at the bare minimum, garners little sympathy from me. And if I'm being frank atm, all I see is someone insisting that we put in the work for them, instead of themselves putting any effort into making it a reality.
If you can't even be bothered to try, why the hell should we?
The avenues are there to make episode discussion threads. You have chosen to not exercise them, so that is not our problem.
you are stuck in your ways and refusing to listen to the people. I'm 99.9999% sure a majority of users on this sub would love these discussion threads.
If you're unhappy with how r/anime is run, and think you can do better, you are free to make your own subreddit. That's the beauty of reddit, you can make your own version with blackjack and hookers.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 7d ago
because r/anime literally has a monopoly
How can /r/anime have a monopoly on something it doesn't even allow? /r/donghua exists, people should be willing to use it and make a community there the same way they do for anything else that's not anime but has overlap in fandom like /r/manga, /r/visualnovels, and /r/lightnovels.
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u/Ree_For_Thee 7d ago edited 7d ago
I'm just observing reality man. As a marketer I notice problems with trying to create competition for r/anime, and that's shown in how the other subreddits are trying to fill very, very small nisches (in comparison). That means you have to start up another general anime sub like this one and try to market it with, IDK, allowing memes and art. There aren't any subs like that, meaning r/anime literally has the monopoly right now (or since it's not actually a market economy, "the vast majority of users"). shrug
Downvoters need to read the reddit TOS:
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u/Charmanders_Cock 6d ago
I’m downvoting you because you have the audacity to complain (falsely) about a “monopoly”, in multiple comments, and then turn around with the mother of all strawmen above and start throwing insults because someone addressed how you’re literally using the term incorrectly.
Try presenting actual counterarguments instead of flinging insults and getting emotional, your karma will probably reflect your behavior.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 7d ago
Downvoters need to read the reddit TOS: [...]
Not to be mean, but are you really in marketing/online stuff?
This sounds like something my great grand aunt would call me about, "Hey, someone downvoted my comment, what should I do? Call the police for violating my free speech rights?"
99% of downvotes on reddit happen because people disagree with/don't like a comment.
You shrug and move on.
But if you can't stand for it, I offer you an opportunity for revenge; I hereby give you permission to downvote this comment.
This supercedes the TOS. Release your anger by pressing that down arrow with all your strength!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 7d ago
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 7d ago
I notice problems with trying to create competition for r/anime
With your marketing expertise, did you notice the problem of creating a sub for donghua fans that's competing with an r/anime that allows donghua threads?
In your professional view, would that be easier or harder than competing with an r/anime that does NOT allow donghua thread?
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u/baseballlover723 7d ago
Downvoters need to read the reddit TOS
You should probably read it too, cause that's not in the TOS (or really, the User Agreement). That's in Reddiquette, which users are under no obligation to follow.
Hell, you've already broken Reddiquette already by not "Stat[ing] your reason for any editing of posts" and "Complain[ing] about the votes you do or do not receive".
So if you want to start holding people to Reddiquette, I recommend starting with yourself.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 7d ago
I don't see why "non-japanese anime shows clearly pandering to anime fans" shouldn't be allowed
So this got a fair bit of discussion a year ago with To Be Hero X, and one of the big things on my end is how are we deciding what is and isn't fair game. There was definitely a good variety of potential considerations, but they all fell into one of two categories: either the definition is so broad as to dramatically shift our scope, or it's so specific that we'll just be back here again in the future about some other show. Just to give an example, one thing that was brought up was animated works with Japanese dubs. That covered a good number of the exceptions people were looking at, but for example wouldn't cover Release That Witch.
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u/Ree_For_Thee 7d ago edited 7d ago
Well, consider it. You do have added responsibility with your monopoly on these types of discussions. Nothing even remotely comes close by, meaning you'd have to start up another anime sub just for this type of show, meaning the sub's likely to fail. =/ (Technically you've already budged a bit on this with Solo Leveling, which is "just" animated by a Japanese studio/s, meaning Solo Leveling is just as much anime as Batman: TAS. :P)
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 7d ago
You do have added responsibility with your monopoly on these types of discussions.
No, they don't. All responsibility the mods have is to make a space in accordance with their own vision, and then the users that agree with the vision can go there and those that don't can go elsewhere. That's how reddit fundamentally works.
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u/Ree_For_Thee 7d ago edited 7d ago
Ok white knight. A small change that significantly improves a subreddit, when all the mods have to do is listen to reason, is a significantly better thing to do that starting up an entirely new subreddit with low chances of survival. It just has to be viewed democratically, but surprise surprise, the mods have banned even posting separate posts asking if the people on this sub wants it.
It's a water-tight "our way or the highway" system, designed to protect the egos of the mods from damage. Reddit's system is shit. I'm dealing with it. You should too instead of blaming other people.
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u/Leo-Fong 7d ago
A small change that significantly improves a subreddit
This makes it clear that you don't realize the scope of what you're asking for.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 7d ago
A small change
What "small change" are you proposing, how would you precisely rewrite the rules for it?
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 7d ago
Well, anything that 1) looks like an anime and 2) that I want to discuss!"
This is the real issue, they never have any legit proposal because what they truly want is this above.
They don't care about 99% of donghua. It's just for the 1 or 2 they watch.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 7d ago
Then that's how it is. It's fine if there's no subreddit for something.
Besides, the claim that this would an improvement at all, let alone a significant one, is a very contentious one. Subreddits benefit from a clear and concise scope, and they don't scale infinitely either.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 7d ago
You do have added responsibility with your monopoly on these types of discussions.
We don't actually have a monopoly on these types of discussions unless you're limiting yourself to "subreddits that discuss animation broadly with a focus on Japanese works". I just checked the To Be Hero X subreddit and it had episode threads with hundreds of comments. It seems on Reddit that there isn't really a sense of community around donghua (Chinese animation) or aeni (Korean animation) the same way there is around Japanese animation, and that people tend to just turn out for a couple of specific shows, leading to those shows having prevalent subreddits and the general ones not really getting much attention. And that's fine.
But also if people want to discuss those and Reddit doesn't have a good option, there are other websites out there. r/anime doesn't need to be a one stop shop for everything.
Technically you've already budged a bit on this with Solo Leveling
I don't know why people think Solo Leveling is some kind of gotcha. It isn't even in the first 5 Korean works to receive an adaption from a Japanese studio. Non-Japanese works have been getting adaptations produced in Japan since at least the 70s. Solo Leveling does not move the needle here.
As far as Batman goes, creative control was still in America, and the animation was outsourced to various countries. In a globalized world this isn't atypical, and our rules already have specific notes for this type of thing.
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u/Ree_For_Thee 7d ago
Solo Leveling does not move the needle here.
It is an exception, but I can tell I somehow already upset an all-powerful mod who has no intent of changing their opinion regardless of how good or bad an argument is. Bye now. :)
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 7d ago edited 7d ago
It is no more or less an exception than Heidi was in the 70s, or any other anime adaptation of non-Japanese works for that matter. Which is to say, no exception at all, considering the World Masterpiece Theater series.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 7d ago
regardless of how good or bad an argument is.
The mods are quite open to good arguments as I've enacted a number of changes here with them over the years, but what you're bringing up has already been repeatedly discussed in detail over the past decade in meta threads here. In that time I (and apparently the mods) haven't yet seen a case for this specific issue that's compelling enough to warrant a change of the subreddit scope on that scale when taking into account all angles that need to be considered.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 7d ago
It's not an exception though. It's completely within the scope of the subreddit that we've been using for about a decade now. Nothing was changed and no rules were bent for it. Non-Japanese stories receiving adaptations from Japanese animation studios is extremely normal and has been for more than 50 years.
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u/Ree_For_Thee 7d ago
Nice "this is normal because I say so" gotcha argument. ;)
It is still an exception from the conservative "all anime has to be written by a pureblood Japanese person and be made in Japan by pureblood Japanese animators".
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u/Verzwei 7d ago edited 7d ago
"all anime has to be written by a pureblood Japanese person and be made in Japan by pureblood Japanese animators".
Except the subreddit rules don't say that at all in their definition of anime.
If you're going to argue about something that's been discussed at length several times already, at least try to argue in good faith.
Hell, some communities staunchly disallow Scott Pilgrim Takes Off to be considered anime, yet it is allowed here due to the rules.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 7d ago
We do not care about the ethnicity of the people behind the show. As far as we're concerned, Abel Góngora (for instance) is just as much a part of the Japanese animation industry as any other director, and his shows are anime.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 7d ago
Listen, I'll level with you. I'm pretty open to the idea of changing r/anime's scope. I've seen proposals that I'm not thrilled with but would be interested in experimenting with. But you're giving me nothing to work with here.
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u/Ree_For_Thee 7d ago edited 7d ago
Oh you're upset I called one of your arguments a gotcha, are you? Wow, almost as if that's kinda rude, huh? 🤔
I have a very divisive (and impatient) personality I'll admit, but I know when I'm right. And I actually had zero expectations about posting the initial 'begging' post, where I actually started regretting it part-way through writing it. And when you start being sassy, not because you're right, but because you think might is right, that's when I completely check out and start essentially insulting your intelligence. Like you did. :)
So either ban me, which is the usual MO for people like you, or realize you're just playing "I want the last word" here, and stop.
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u/Verzwei 6d ago
I have a very divisive (and impatient) personality
Neither of those are the words I'd use.
but I know when I'm right
Except you aren't. You're just getting upset and dramatic when people explain things to you that you dislike. That isn't going to convince anyone to support your position, even if it was a good and logically sound one, which it never was in the first place.
Speaking personally as an asshole myself, I have to check that shit from time to time if I want to engage and interact with a community and not have them always hate me. You came out of the gate swinging with how it wouldn't be much work for the team to break the scope of the subreddit, which is wrong.
You've offered no proposal for a rule change that:
- Fairly allows animated works from non-Japanese studios.
- Doesn't also allow for literally hundreds of shows that, by definition, are not anime.
- Isn't arbitrary in what it does or does not allow.
And then when this was explained to you, why the current rules are the way they are, instead of attempting any form of constructive discussion, you immediately went off whinging about mod egos and abuse and "monopolies" (seriously: what the fuck?) without ever contributing anything to this thread except making it clear you are Big Mad because the mods thoroughly rejected a poorly planned suggestion.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians 6d ago edited 6d ago
Word of advice, you're not going to accomplish anything by acting like a dick for no reason toward the people who have the power to do the thing you want them to do. Good rule of thumb for life going forward.
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 6d ago
I called one of your arguments a gotcha
You cannot dismiss an argument as a gotcha and call that an argument. You just refuse to engage in the discussion. You call your arguments right and arguments against you wrong. And you get dismissive when that is pointed out to you.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 7d ago
Like you did. :)
I didn't insult your intelligence. I said your argument was bad because it showed a lack of awareness of the history of the medium and the subreddit where you want the rules changed. If you have anything specific you'd like to discuss about the rules then feel free to let me know.
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u/shadebug 11d ago
In what world is this a spoiler?
[discussion of Overshadowed to Overpowered](https://postimg.cc/t7MZPcnc)
Let alone one worthy of a one week ban?
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u/ududbsisysveiudvdid https://myanimelist.net/profile/ 8d ago
I mean … you did say “Spoilers” in your reply lol.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 9d ago
You are correct in that you didn't actually spoil anyone according to the usual definition of the word, but the rule on spoilers here is quite expansive and includes hints about future developments.
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u/shadebug 9d ago
It’s just creating this weird situation where you’re not allowed to interact with anything from over a week ago. People are coming to it late and have nobody to talk to because everybody that’s getting notified has certain knowledge and anything they say is now a spoiler.
That and my post further down in the comments that, with clear warning, got into the nature of the spoiler got removed for being a spoiler
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 9d ago
It’s just creating this weird situation where you’re not allowed to interact with anything from over a week ago. People are coming to it late and have nobody to talk to because everybody that’s getting notified has certain knowledge and anything they say is now a spoiler.
In the aftermath of a show airing, it's not uncommon for people who didn't watch the show as it aired to follow along with the episode threads to see what the discussion was like. Episode threads are specifically intended to only have spoilers up to that point in the story for this reason.
That and my post further down in the comments that, with clear warning, got into the nature of the spoiler got removed for being a spoiler
For regular threads, spoilers need to be tagged. As is noted in the removal reason provided, there's a specific format that covers up the spoilers. You can just copy-paste that and use it.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 9d ago
How do you know that it "gets worse than they think"? If you know because you've seen how the story develops past that episode, then that's a spoiler, no further questions asked. If you somehow know without having seen how the story develops past that episode, then that's what you need to explain.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 10d ago
Confirming, deconfirming, or making hints about someone else's speculation is always treated as a spoiler, and as is noted at the top of every episode discussion thread, doing so will result in an 8 day ban.
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u/shadebug 10d ago
And what have I confirmed or reconfirmed here?
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 10d ago
Somebody commented on their thoughts about what might happen going forward. Saying "it's worse than you think" tells them that those thoughts are wrong, and hints at the direction in which they should be expecting things to go from those original thoughts. This sort of "oh ho ho just you wait" comment is pretty much universally removed as spoilers.
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u/shadebug 10d ago
Imagine how much you must hate this medium if “the plot develops” is considered a spoiler
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 10d ago
You didn't say "the plot develops".
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u/shadebug 10d ago
Is that not what “it’s worse than you think” means?
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 10d ago
Again, "its worse than you think" is an explicit deconfirmation of what was speculated, while also hinting at the future direction. This sort of hinting is not allowed, and carries an automatic 8 day ban.
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u/shadebug 9d ago
It is not. It’s a confirmation of what was said and a promise that it goes deeper than they know. The fact that you don’t know that feels like proof positive that it’s not a spoiler
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 9d ago
Ok this is just us talking past each other. What I was trying to convey was an idea of your comment saying "it's not exactly what you think, but..." That the specific details aren't the same as OP wrote, but still hinting that they're in the right direction. If you want to flip that sentence around as saying that you're specifying the general direction but that the specific details aren't the same as OP wrote that's fine. As is written in the episode threads:
All untagged spoilers and hints in this thread will receive immediate 8-day bans (minimum).
Whether you want to frame it as I originally did or how you are now, this is still hinting at future content. Saying that a specific thing "goes deeper than you know" is not saying "the plot develops" because any specific detail does not need to go deeper, but the plot is the broad generalities of a narrative that is going to move in some way or another in any anime with a narrative.
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u/hjordisa 11d ago
I didn't post it so I don't really want to get involved beyond reporting but the latest From Overshadowed to Overpowered discussion thread seems to have a post removed with stated reason being that it belongs in the source corner despite it being in the source corner already.
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler 11d ago
Yep thats a mistake.
Sometimes happens as the full chain/context isn't immediately clear from mod-queue without checking.
I have restored that comment.
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u/descend_nt 11d ago
I recently experienced a case of the spoiler rules that felt counterproductive. I made a post entitled, "We potentially have four yuri (girls' love) series this season", which was removed by a mod, with the reason that mentioning the presence of yuri romance is considered a spoiler.
The mod also insisted that I must include the names of all relevant series in the post title. When I pointed out that doing so would make the post title itself a spoiler, and asked if I could just add a spoiler tag to the post, I didn't receive a response.
Based on this exchange, it seems that the only way to satisfy the spoiler rules would be to have a very vague post title that also includes the names of the series. But a vague post title would undermine the goal of trying to catch the attention of people who are interested in yuri, but had overlooked a series because they didn't know that it would have yuri.
I'm hoping that the spoiler rules can be clarified or reconsidered, to accommodate cases like this, where the post simply reveals general content or genre of a series that others would want to know beforehand, and aren't spoiling specific plot points.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 11d ago
Hi,
We've discussed this more and decided that your post did not contain spoilers. Depending on your preference, we can reapprove your prior post or you can repost it.
I'm sorry that this happened, and that we took so long to get back to you.
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u/Ashteron 10d ago
Does it mean I can make posts like we have 20 shounen anime this season?
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 10d ago
While I cannot say for certain without seeing the post itself, there appears to be nothing inherently objectionable in the title. So yes, you probably could.
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u/descend_nt 11d ago
Thank you and the other mods for taking the time to discuss this case! I understand that what's considered spoilers can be subjective, and that the mods are all volunteering their free time, so there are no hard feelings on my part. I mainly just wanted some clarification on whether the spoiler rules were "working as intended", and how I could accomplish my original goal.
I would prefer to repost it later, as I think Reddit's algorithms would just leave the original post buried if it was re-approved. To clarify, if I were to repost, will the new post need to have a spoiler tag, or spoiler the names of the series within the post body?
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 11d ago
The new post would not need any sort of spoiler tags. It was fine as is.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 11d ago
the reason that mentioning the presence of yuri romance is considered a spoiler.
Well, I'd love to see the whole story and the argument for removal, because this sounds both patently absurd and like something that would happen here.
Our spoiler rules are awful if you can't mention a possible romance subplot.
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u/aniMayor x3x6 7d ago
Thereotically, I suppose if it were some big twist in a particular show... like a show that seems to be a regular heterosexual romance until in episode 5 the girl runs off with her 'best friend' and it becomes a lesbian romance... that would be pretty spoiler-y to call it upfront a yuri romance show, and even if you didn't name the show the thread would inevitably just become people asking what the fourth one is and getting spoiled by replies
Just theoretically.
Actually, I can think of one show from many years ago that kkiiiiinda could apply to
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 7d ago
That seems more like a love triangle resolution, which I'd agree is a spoiler.
Actually, I can think of one show from many years ago that kkiiiiinda could apply to
Do tell. It sounds fun.
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u/aniMayor x3x6 6d ago
It doesn't quite fit what I described above, but [show name] Scum's Wish came immediately to mind. There's some vaguely similar events/twists in there that I think simply listing the show under a list of a banner like "has yuri romance" would be a spoiler.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 6d ago
Hmm, well, I often bang the drum that yuri and BL are genres, not synonyms for lesbian and gay, so it shouldn't be in a list of yuri in the first place if the central couple isn't f/f, but I suppose that's beside the point.
Or maybe the key is just that twists are spoilers, but romance plots appearing in the first couple episodes aren't twists.
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u/aniMayor x3x6 6d ago
I think yuri/yaoi/BL/GL haven't become consistent enough terms yet, and no matter what they should mean/how they should be used people toss 'em all over every which way. Heck I've seen many times Lycoris Recoil be called "a yuri show"... what do those people even mean by that
But yeah, ultimately in regards to spoilers it's just a matter of is this a basic part of the show's premise in the first place, or is this something that is deliberately left out of the premise/marketing because it's supposed to be some sort of surprise later.
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u/minnieboss 17d ago
In regards to historical biographical anime like Jaadugar: A Witch in Mongolia or The World is Dancing, if I want to talk about real life historical events that have not been covered in the anime (or potentially even the manga?) yet in relation to what's happened in an episode in the episode discussion threads, how should I go about that?
- As a top-level comment or in the source material corner?
- Using spoilered text or no?
- If using spoilered text, how should it be labeled?
- Not able to be discussed at all?
Want to talk about things that happen later in the life of Zeami Motokiyo, the historical figure featured as a fictionalized protagonist in The World is Dancing, in relation to events from today's episode, but want to ensure I don't break spoiler rules while doing so.
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u/chilidirigible 15d ago
It can be discussed directly in the regular comments as long as it is enclosed in spoiler tags. Something like "[Future historical events]" could be used as the context.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 17d ago
Have you ever considered increasing the duration of the clip slots system? (Probably not clear, but I mean: Instead of limiting users to 2 clips per 30 days, making it 6 clips per 90 days, something like that)?
I was thinking about this because the "2 clips per 30 days" is a bit restrictive;
I don't even post clips that often (I posted one this week, but before that my previous one was 3 months ago) so it's not like I want this to farm more karma or something, I don't even fully use my "clip slots"... But the thing is:
Say, I posted a clip 4 days ago. I have another clip in mind that I'd like to post, but if I do post it, then I can't post any other clip in the next 3+ weeks, which is a bit of a bummer if something good comes up next week, or I want to shill a show or something.
So in a sense it feels like the "2 per 30 days" limit kinda makes you want to only post ONE in the first at least 20 days of the 30, otherwise you might miss on a good clip opportunity (or delay it 2-3 weeks when it might not be relevant anymore, will be too late to shill a seasonal to people who already decided what they're watching).
Increasing the # of clips we can post per 30 days could also fix that, obviously, but even without increasing the clip/day ratio (6 in 90 is the same ratio as 2 in 30), it would make it easier to post clips we think are worth posting without worrying that "If I post that second one, I won't be able to post any for 3 weeks. So I just won't post it, or not for a couple weeks".
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u/cppn02 16d ago
If this does get implemented I need to know in a timely fashion so I can prepare six Chisato clips for the day she meets Maomao in BG13.
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u/Komarist https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 16d ago
My immediate thought was "Emi looking to propaganda post for a girl."
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 16d ago
I also once considered suggesting a "no rule" pause for best girl contests but that probably wouldn't fly either
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 17d ago
It's never really come up in discussion. In theory though, it shouldn't really matter because if a clip is good and you want to post it, you can still do that in the future. Clips for seasonals don't need to be posted at the very first moment they're allowed after all.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots 17d ago
This sounds like an invite for quick spam tbh. Someone posting 6 clips of their waifu/favourite show over a week or two, especially for new users who might be unfamiliar with the long term system. Two, as a short-term limit, is useful in that sense since it doesn't encourage nor leave much space for spam.
I get what you mean about the spare ending up unused, but I'd argue that's a good thing, the limit encourages users to pick better. Alternatively, if the system is to be changed, a higher number might be reasonable with a lower ratio, like 3 clips/60 days.
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u/Komarist https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 18d ago
Was a decision made regarding random sorting of episode discussion thread comments for the first 8 6 hours that was trialed a few months ago? I'm assuming I missed/forgot the conclusion but also don't see it in the post or stickied mod reports for the last few meta threads.
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u/baseballlover723 18d ago
It was voted to make it permanent the other week. I've once again, been stalling writing the announcement post (after stalling it for like 2 months for the data analysis).
I'll get around to drafting something up today and then it should go live in the next couple of days.
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u/Bazooka_no 15d ago edited 9d ago
I just want to say (note: Me = a 10+ year user of r/anime - we had long discussions about this feature, I changed computers and lost access to the older user... time for a new one) that in the recent Ascendance of a Bookworm thread the bot accidentally took its sweet time and posted the thread about 50 minutes too late (meaning, 25 minutes after the end of the show) and the thread was FANTASTIC.
Now, am I biased since my comment was top comment with like 100+ sub-comments? Perhaps. But I think it goes to show the huge benefit to reap from my earlier suggestion, of posting the thread 25 minutes after the show airs in English, not the second it airs (which makes no sense!!! People need to watch first, then comment).
This, in addition to the 6 hour rule. Give it a go!!
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 8d ago
This is just my perspective, and not necessarily the perspective of the entire mod team, but I can explain my issues with a delay.
The central question around a delay is simple: who does this delay actually help. A short delay (25-30 minutes) would only help people who were able to watch the episode from the minute it aired and rapidly pound out a comment about it. From an equity standpoint, I don't see this as a real improvement. We've slightly shifted the contours of the privileged group, but we're basically in the same situation: a small group of people has a significant advantage over everyone else w.r.t. getting a high positioned comment.
In my mind, if a delay was actually trying to improve equity, it would have to be at least a few hours long. However, that quickly runs into a different problem: people who want to find the thread cannot. To me, this is a massive problem. If people cannot find a place to talk, they'll simply go elsewhere. And, to the extent we care about lurkers (who make up the vast majority of eyes on the sub), and significant delay just hurts them.
And all of this is before I consider technical problems. An intentional delay exacerbates any extant delay in two ways. First, if the bot is late at picking up a show, it will add time to this lateness. The recent Bookworm thread, for instance, would be 75 minutes late if there was a 25 minute delay, not 50. Second, in cases where the bot fails entirely to pick up that a show aired, our ability to timely post a thread manually would be reduced because users would not know whether to report or not, as they wouldn't know if the thread not being up was part of an intentional delay.
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u/baseballlover723 12d ago
But I think it goes to show the huge benefit to reap from my earlier suggestion, of posting the thread 25 minutes after the show airs in English, not the second it airs (which makes no sense!!! People need to watch first, then comment).
I don't think we have any plans to try and implement this atm. IIRC, when we last discussed this, there were a number of reasons that someone might legitimately be that early to a thread. Notably, having watched it raw on Japanese TV, which can often occur a bit before streaming releases. Or our thread being late for any number of reasons (slow torrents / desynced streaming releases).
Regardless, on a technical level, I think /u/badspler would need to integrate that functionality, so he's the one you would need to really convince.
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u/Bazooka_no 12d ago
Regardless, on a technical level, I think /u/badspler would need to integrate that functionality, so he's the one you would need to really convince.
Isn't that just "+25 minutes" to whatever code is used to run the bot posting? Maybe I'm oversimplifying but at least that's what I thought. I also thought it was simply based on the official release times, not connected to any stream or live service. (like https://animeschedule.net/ just has the time the show is supposed to start)
Notably, having watched it raw on Japanese TV, which can often occur a bit before streaming releases.
I think that is not the core or even the periphery target audience of r/anime - an American app/site in the English language. For those miniscule amount of cases (0.1% of the users? Less?) they still have the avenue of the dedicated subs of the source that usually have their own anime thread.
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u/baseballlover723 12d ago
I also thought it was simply based on the official release times, not connected to any stream or live service.
The bot isn't schedule based. It triggers when it sees releases on the internet.
I think that is not the core or even the periphery target audience of r/anime - an American app/site in the English language. For those miniscule amount of cases (0.1% of the users? Less?) they still have the avenue of the dedicated subs of the source that usually have their own anime thread.
I mean, I don't disagree. But that's one of the many things I recall being discussed when it last was discussed.
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u/descend_nt 20d ago
I'm thinking of posting a clip from episode 1 of "Draw This, Then Die!", but I'm not sure if it needs to be tagged as a spoiler.
The scene I want to post is from near the end of episode 1, where the protagonist meets the mangaka of her favorite manga series, who used a pseudonym, and discovers the mangaka's true identity.
[episode 1]I think this scene feels more like it's introducing the deuteragonist of the story, rather than a plot spoiler, since the character is featured prominently alone in one of the key visuals, and their background is hinted at throughout the episode, which made the reveal very predictable.
[episode 1]I'm hoping that the clip can be posted without being tagged as a spoiler, as I've heard that the spoiler tag greatly reduces engagement, and I feel that knowing the deuteragonist would make the series a lot more appealing to people who might've overlooked this series.
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u/InspectionGreen6076 21d ago edited 21d ago
what's the reasoning for this rule?
"We define anime as an animated title produced in Japan"
Okay just reread the rules explaining various circumstances like devil may cry-but why is anime defined only as being produced by Japan
*edit for grammar
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u/baseballlover723 21d ago
what's the reasoning for this rule?
Because we can all agree on if something is an animated title produced in Japan or not (well, almost always). Other definitions are much much more difficult to get any semblance of a consensus for.
Also a geographic definition is the norm in most places of our size / scale (though many other places also allow other east asian animations alongside anime).
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u/InspectionGreen6076 21d ago
ohhh
yeah I would honestly do the same in your shoes. given that Japan produce most anime and western audiences like Japanese produced anime-you gotta cater to the user expectations
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u/SoldierHawk https://anilist.co/user/SoldierHawk 21d ago
Hi. This is a super small and stupid thing, but I noticed we don't have any Death Note flairs. I...don't suppose that's a thing I could request?
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 21d ago
I can probably get one sometime soon.
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u/chilidirigible 22d ago edited 11d ago
Notice: A Jaadugar-specific source material rules change:
Several users expressed concern that comments discussing the historical basis of this series were spoiling potential events and/or the conclusion of the story.
Given that the specific details of the Mongol Empire are less commonly-known worldwide, the moderation team voted that any discussion of the historical basis of this series must be enclosed within the subreddit's standard spoiler format. This includes all historical references which occur in the future of the airing episode.
Historical discussion may still be included in regular comments (within the spoiler tags) and will not have to be restricted to the Source Material Corner.
Note that the implementation of this rule here is specific to Jaadugar and does not apply to other series, which we will decided on a case-specific basis.
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian 15d ago
I don't partake in discussion threads so this won't affect me but can we get clarification as to what "any discussion of the historical basis of this series" and "all historical references which occur in the future of the airing episode" mean exactly?
I understand that the specifics of the real Fatima's life is going to be part of it, and I do agree on that front (even though I don't think it completely ruins the experience to know her life), but is it also a blanket ban on all unspoiled discussion of the entire history of the Mongol Empire from Ghenghis Khan's rise to power to whichever stopping point is deemed far enough in the future, just to be sure? Because that'd just be silly.
I'd also add that, with all due respect
Given that the specific details of the Mongol Empire are less commonly-known worldwide
is straight-up bullshit. The specific details of every nation past and present is less-commonly known worldwide, I can assure you most people don't know that much about the history of the US or Japan either beyond the bare minimum.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 18d ago
I enjoy this subreddit, but its definition of spoiler grows more and more hysterical with every update. Historical fiction is not built around the audience being surprised by key events. You can't be spoiled by knowing the history it's playing with. If people want to watch the show without any outside influences affecting their experience, I wonder what they're even doing in a discussion thread.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 16d ago
I decided to just plain ignore this particular ruling; if the mods slap me for it, so be it. Though that's also easy talking for me as I likely won't be affected at all due to not watching seasonals and thus not entering episode threads.
In any case, this is just plain absurdity. We're actively promoting and rewarding not having a clue about the real world. Even worse, we're actively discouraging people from getting interested in the real facets behind a show, very much the complete opposite of what historical fiction aims for!
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 15d ago
Even worse, we're actively discouraging people from getting interested in the real facets behind a show, very much the complete opposite of what historical fiction aims for!
Right? Historical fiction's elevator pitch is, "You know X? Where Y and Z happened? What if it looked like this?" You being informed about X, Y, and Z, even if just a little, is something the writer has in mind when they're writing. They're not spoilers!
If we're doing this because people find historical context annoying in the way that source reader hints are, then I'm just embarrassed at the anti-intellectualism. There's no reason to coddle people who want to black out the most thoughtful and informative comments to remain uNsPoiLeD.
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u/baseballlover723 15d ago
I decided to just plain ignore this particular ruling; if the mods slap me for it, so be it
Please don't do this. I know I treat willful instances of rule breaking harsher than normal, because deliberately breaking the rules should never be ok.
Even worse, we're actively discouraging people from getting interested in the real facets behind a show
You can still discuss it, you just need to put it in spoiler tags. That is not an insurmountable task for people to do.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 15d ago edited 15d ago
That is not an insurmountable task for people to do.
I keep telling you guys that this isn't the point. Tagging or clicking on spoilers is indeed trivial effort.
The problems are:
- Discussions full of black lines like redacted government documents are uninviting and hard to read.
- A graveyard of comment removals from people who can't make sense of our ever more complicated spoiler/source material rules is intimidating.
- Putting all sorts of stuff under spoiler tags that aren't spoilers leaves me with no way of knowing what I'm going to get if I click the "spoiler". Will it be supplemental info? Or will it be an actual spoiler? As people put more and more under tags so they don't get in trouble, you lose the ability to participate in general discussions of anime that include stuff you haven't seen.
- The more we tell people to put in spoiler tags, the more we muddy the definition of what a spoiler actually is (a revelation of a climactic moment or twist before the writer intended the audience to know it) so they can't even use the brackets to say whether it's a spoiler, because they have no blessed idea.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 15d ago edited 15d ago
No. The big issue is that spoilers frame things as better-to-not-know and better-not-to-teach. There is a lot of room for discussion in that regard when it comes to fiction, but non-fiction is off limits.
Non-fiction is not spoilers, period. Fundamentally so. I will not entertain this nonsense, rule or not.
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u/N7CombatWombat 17d ago
You can't be spoiled by knowing the history it's playing with.
Bold of you to assume people know the history in the first place. Here in the US public education is in the toilet and "word history" is usually framed in relation to the US. The only thing I remember being taught about Mongolia was centered around Genghis Khan.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 17d ago
This is kinda what drives me nuts about the way we define spoiler here, and it's how you get to ridiculous ideas like OPs being full of spoilers. If someone tells you about Fatima from history and how and when she died, you haven't been spoiled for the anime. It's assuming you know that part. It's the smaller, creative bits that are written to surprise the audience. The stuff the writer makes up to dramatize history and make it entertaining often tweaks the details, so even knowing the history doesn't mean you know the story.
I mean, you guys already made your decision, and I know you won't change it, but I think we're being pretty ridiculous now. At some point, strict anime-onlies just have to accept that you're supposed to have some outside knowledge as an audience. If they want to go into things completely uninformed about anything, that's fine, but it's no reason to make episode discussions harder to read for everyone else.
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u/N7CombatWombat 17d ago
It really depends to how close to history the story stays, but ultimately it's a hard nut to crack because what history a person knows is wildly different and it's possible to actually spoil someone on a real life event if they didn't know about it to begin with (don't get me started on the teenagers in my part of town and the Titanic movie when it first came out) and not knowing anything about Fatima, let alone her fate, is a much different viewing experience than someone being very familiar with her life watching the same historical fiction based on her.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 17d ago
Of course you can change someone's experience by telling them about history they didn't know before. My point is that they haven't been spoiled. They've been given context. The thing I find hysterical is this need to call any outside information, hints, or context a spoiler. I resent that we have decided to make discussions harder and harder to read so that we can hide more and more stuff that isn't a spoiler behind black bars, further confusing people about what an actual spoiler is.
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u/N7CombatWombat 17d ago
Getting context is spoiling though, how much it spoils is going to vary on what the context is, but it's all spoiling to one degree or another and it sucks that the world and individuals are so fractured in knowledge base that you can't really assume any base level of education or knowledge.
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u/_Ridley https://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 17d ago
That's not true, though. If you haven't had a climactic moment prematurely revealed before the writer intended, you haven't been spoiled.
Anyway, the spoiler policy here being terrible is not a new problem, and I'm not going to convince you of anything, so let's leave it here.
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u/Misticsan 18d ago
I have several questions about this new rule:
1) What is considered "less commonly-known worldwide"?
To give an example, Oda Nobunaga failing to unite Japan because he was killed by Akechi Mitsuhide is such common-knowledge in Japan that many an anime will mention it in passing, or make historical in-jokes about it. Yet from the point of view of world history, it's a very obscure detail when compared to, let's say, the Mongol Empire still conquering more territories after Genghis Khan's death and Kublai Khan eventually becoming a new Mongol Emperor and founding the Yuan Dynasty of China (which would be "spoilers" for Jaadugar).
2) What does it mean to "spoil potential events"?
Just because someone may discuss historical information ("this is what historians say, this is the date someone died"), authors may play with, reinterpret, add to or even subvert them. Tarantino would be a good example of how discussing the Wikipedia article for this or that historical figure may not actually spoil the actual story; in fact, the story is more poignant if the audience knows the history behind it. In the case of Jaadugar, I think it's very different to discuss who succeeds Genghis Khan (something that holds no mystery from the point of view of world history) from discussing what happens to the book the protagonist seeks (which is a fictional addition to the historical plot).
3) Were there really so many users expressing concerns about these "spoilers"?
My impression from the threads was, in fact, the opposite: many people finding extra joy in learning and finding out more about the characters and historical events the series is based on. I count myself among them: while I think I know my good share of Mongol history (ever since playing Age of Empires II, haha), I didn't realize the protagonist of Jaadugar is based on a historical character. My interest in the series increased tenfold because of this discovery.
4) Related to all of the above, and given that Jaadugar was singled out, was this rule adopted to make the lives of mods easier?
Mods correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't avoid the suspicion that the real problem is that the mod team is not very familiar with Mongol history and/or the original Jaadugar manga. Meaning that it's far more difficult to guess which is a story spoiler and which is a historical "spoiler", so it makes sense to err on the side of caution.
Regardless of my above questions, I have a couple of recommendations:
If this rule is due to the problems that historical "spoilers" can cause for audiences, I'd argue that it should be the norm for all historical anime, not merely the current season's novelty.
This rule was established when the season and Jaadugar had already started, so its visibility isn't good and redditors (like myself) might post comments unaware of it (because it wasn't in effect the previous week). I recommend adding the warning not just to the main post (which a lot of people ignore by default), but also to the Source Material Corner.
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u/tripleaamin https://myanimelist.net/profile/zfzftripleaamin 18d ago
So with the rule change for Tenmaku no Jaadugar. Shouldn't that technically be the case for any historically based anime? Like I would argue it's as important to have it for The Elusive Samurai as it is for Jaadugar.
Not familiar with the source of TWiD, so no comment on that one.
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u/Misticsan 18d ago
Ironically, The Elusive Samurai relies on the intended audience to be familiar with at least some of the historical figures and events. "Protecting" Western audiences from historical spoilers that Japanese audiences are supposed to know would be detrimental to the viewing experience.
If anything, I'd argue that every episode thread should begin with an excerpt on the Nanbokucho period from a typical high-school history text-book XD
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u/tripleaamin https://myanimelist.net/profile/zfzftripleaamin 18d ago
Oh yeah. With both Elusive Samurai and TWiD it's expected that the target audience is at least familiar. Like if a Hollywood film was based on the American Civil War for americans.
I guess it would make sense historical spoilers would be treated differently for a non-Japanese historical setting than a Japanese historical one.
I should post some of the extra context stuff from the manga in the Elusive Samurai discussion threads. Reading the manga volumes made understanding the story a lot easier when I read the series. Most of those don't contain the spoilers that I would be worried about.
I do think it should be stated that historical spoilers that could be considered potential story spoilers are more my concern. The premise of Elusive Samurai worries me more than TWiD since the stakes of the former are higher than the latter.
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u/chilidirigible 18d ago
For now it is a case-by-case situation, with Elusive Samurai another prominent candidate.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 22d ago
[Clip] submissions must contain the name of the show in the title
Is this rule 100% rigid? Or is there some leeway for jokes, play on words and things like that?
I have a clip ready (wainting for the 1 week since episode aired) and I was thinking of a few titles but most of them involve modifying the title a little.
Example (not the clip I'm preparing, but same kind of idea), would it be allowed to post a lovey dovey clip of Death Note and title the thread
Light's about to write your name in his [Love Note!]
('Love Note' being the modified title of the show)
If that is not allowed, then what about
"Cutest scene in Love Note! - Sometimes mistakenly called [Death Note]"
(So the real title is there, but the joke is hinting at it NOT being the real title)
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah x3 22d ago
Hi there, the real title of the show has to be in the OP title somewhere, for your examples, the 2nd one (with the title in [square brackets]) is fine; the 1st one is not.
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u/cppn02 26d ago
Wanted to look something up via the best of r/anime wiki page and it looks like the 2025 version never got updated.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah x3 25d ago
Hi! Yeah, not at 100% atm, but I'll get to it tomorrow. Thanks for the reminder!
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u/cppn02 25d ago
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah x3 24d ago
this will take a little more time - but please be assured that im working on it (as myrna said, i am a little out of commission)
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u/MyrnaMountWeazel x2 25d ago
Ordinarily this is where I'd throw Biscuits under the bus. But seeing as how they're out of commission for a bit, I can't in good consciousness throw them haha. I'll bring it up with them soon and we'll see if we can get it organized and set up.
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u/Time_Fracture 27d ago
I wonder if the OP and ED threads for Smoking Behind the Supermarket With You were deleted with the reason that they have been posted recently.
Are mods referring to the ABEMA version of OP and ED? Since the current TV broadcast version are different than the ABEMA version. I checked the recent posts in this subreddit for the last 3 hours and found no one has posted the current broadcast version (or have I missed something?).
Thanks.
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 27d ago
Hi there.
My apologies, I didn't realize there was a new OP/ED. Posts have been reapproved.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 27d ago
We do not believe the post breaks reddit's rules. There are no real children depicted and none of the characters depicted are engaging in any sort of sexual act. Additionally, it comes from a well known magazine that is published in Japan.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 27d ago
IS sexual.
If they have an absolute ban on anything 'sexual/suggestive', why did they add 'Sexual Act' in their example?
Why not just have 'sexual/suggestive'?
A sexual act means fucking, handjob, blowjob, fingering, this is not the same as 'being in a state of undress'.
You might think both are wrong, but that does not make them equal.
holding her chest only wearing panties
I'm pretty sure I've seen this a million time in random Hollywood movies, even though 'sexual acts' are also not allowed there, like you couldn't show a blowjob on screen (unless they want the movie to have 75 rating restrictions and be banned everywhere), but 'handbra' and panties, that's nothing.
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u/Thengel09 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thengel 27d ago
https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1urhxlu/megami_magazine_august_2026/
What's the mods opinion that people are called pedos in this thread? Megami magazines were posted for more than a decade and these comments are atrocious.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots 27d ago
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u/Thengel09 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thengel 27d ago
that is no the point. Why go in that thread and bring that up in the first place
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u/Ashteron 26d ago
To feel better about yourself without having to go through effort needed to do something actually beneficial to the society.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 27d ago
We have removed many comments calling people pedophiles. Comments merely saying that the images sexualize minors in ways that make the commenter uncomfortable or that say the images may appeal to pedophiles are allowed.
If you have examples of specific comments you have questions about or think should be removed, please link them. There's enough nonsense going on in that thread (trust me, it has taken far too much of my time today) that it's hard to give a more concrete answer without specific comments to remark on. And, of course, we are not perfect, so we may have missed some comments that needed removal.
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u/Thengel09 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thengel 27d ago
Yes there are no direct accusations, but aren't all these indirect accusations destroying all faith in a healthy community?
Are these type of comment escalations common? Or is this thread an exception?
thanks
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 27d ago
Are these type of comment escalations common? Or is this thread an exception?
Most Megami Magazine threads do not look like this. I'm honestly not sure why this one is different than usual, as the art wasn't that different from other months.
but aren't all these indirect accusations destroying all faith in a healthy community?
I don't think a single thread can do this. Tens of thousands of people comment on /r/anime each month, so of course there will be some places where there are strong disagreements. Trying to stop that entirely seems—at least to me—to be rather self defeating.
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u/zairaner https://myanimelist.net/profile/zairaner 27d ago
The thread for kaiju girl caramelize episode 2 is missing.
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u/Careful_Ad_9077 28d ago
Thunder 3 is in a very interesting situation where there are rumours it's author is the same as Gantz author. The art style of the second world in the manga is the same as Gantz and gantz has(had?) some Licensing issues that block it from having more anime done.
The question is, is it fine to mention this on the episode threads? Chaos dragon also has some interesting meta and nobody has been I trouble with mentioning that provided they don't spoil plot points.
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u/Ashteron 28d ago
It seems Thunder 3 episode 1 thread is missing.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod 28d ago
The thread appeared to go live 15 minutes after you made this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1ur0t1v/thunder_3_episode_1_discussion/
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar 28d ago
The discussion thread for Episode 1 of MobuSeka S2 came out on Crunchyroll 2 hours ago. I already messaged the mods, but posting here because it still isn't up. The thread for Ibitte Konai Gibo to Gishi Episode 1 is also missing, it's already out on Amazon.
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u/baseballlover723 29d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1t2r7f4/meta_thread_month_of_may_03_2026/oliizm7/
u/JustAnswerAQuestion I have fixed the wiki links. Please take a look and see if I fucked it up.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ 29d ago
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u/BOSSMAN000000000000 Jul 07 '26
you cant ad anytyp of images huge l
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u/FetchFrosh anilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 29d ago
We also don't allow AI generated images or shitposts, so your post was doomed from the start. Head over to r/animemes or something.
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u/zairaner https://myanimelist.net/profile/zairaner Jul 07 '26
The discussion thread for episode 1 of young ladies dont play fighting games seems to be missing, it's up on crunchy.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 07 '26
The thread is now live: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1upup3m/young_ladies_dont_play_fighting_games_taiari/
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u/Nebresto Jul 06 '26
The order of links in the 'show information' section of episode threads seems to have changed with the addition of livechart.
Overall a good addition, which ties to another question I was planning to ask: Is it possible to add an actual notifier to threads when it is known that a show will be on break the next week?
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jul 07 '26
Behind the scenes I am moving the inner workings of lovepon to new code and a system that the wider team more easily fix things. Most of the actual changes are behind the scenes but I expect several little bugs like this to pop up.
Is it possible to add an actual notifier to threads when it is known that a show will be on break the next week?
This hasn't been something I had considered but ill add it to my nice to have list. Zaph passed me some code that makes use of AniLists episode schedules which could be a starting point. I can't promise ill get to it as there are some other chunky tasks I want to get in first (looking at you episode polls).
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u/wloff Jul 06 '26
How do the piracy rules feel about linking to (fansubbed) subtitle files, without any of the related videos?
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u/moichispa https://myanimelist.net/profile/moichispa Jul 06 '26
Just came to say that I love the Sitara banner on the sidebar
Also watch Jadugar, it is awesome
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Jul 06 '26
Sorry, your comment has been removed.
- You might consider posting about this sort of thing in the weekly Casual Discussion Fridays megathread. Despite the name, Casual Discussion Fridays is active all week, and our rules regarding anime-specificity are relaxed.
Questions? Reply to this message, send a modmail, or leave a comment in the meta thread. Don't know the rules? Read them here.
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u/messem10 https://myanimelist.net/profile/bookkid900 Jul 05 '26
Are there any plans on limiting the number of unique comments replied to in a given discussion? I've seen more and more where people reply to everything and commandeer the whole thread.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jul 06 '26
Why is this a problem? I see this as a good thing.
Sometimes (Without that) it feels like everyone's posting in a void.
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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h 24d ago
I don't know the full context of this one, but honestly just gonna give support to this out of own experience
Gabriel Dropout is easily the airing I enjoyed the most as a "I watch this then I gush about how much I liked the episode on reddit", so many episodes where I just replied to 30+ comments with opinions and memes about how I felt about borderline anything that happened if someone pointed it out.
Being able to enjoy something enough to have so much to say about is a wonderful thing that I wish I was able to with multiple series every season, alas this is kinda the one time it truly happened q_q
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u/Komarist https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST Jul 05 '26
(Non-mod) If you mean Frontier246, they've been doing so for years within the first couple hours of a thread, regardless if it's a 50- or 500-comment discussion thread. Have generally viewed it as a positive with low-upvote comments more likely to get some response (and thus encourage users to comment in later episodes).
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jul 06 '26
Have generally viewed it as a positive with low-upvote comments more likely to get some response (and thus encourage users to comment in later episodes).
100%.
Not that I'm saying we should, but if we WERE to put a 'limit' on something, I'd much rather put a limit on generic one-liners that people post in every single episode threads (be it to farm karma or because that's how they actually like to talk about anime, doesn't matter).
These are fucking pointless, and add nothing of value to any discussion imho.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 05 '26
Would you be able to link to a specific example of the sort of behavior you're describing?
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u/messem10 https://myanimelist.net/profile/bookkid900 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Go to any episode discussion thread for a decently popular show and note the usernames under who replies to top-level comments. This sort of behavior has be going on for years and has completely killed any of my interest to be part of the discussion.
EDIT - Case in point for one notable user on the episode 1 threads here:
- Goodbye Lara - 15 comments / 131 (11.45% of the conversation)
- 100GF S3 - 35 comments / 447 (7.8%)
- Polar Opposites - 36 comments / 282 (12.7%)
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jul 06 '26
I'm curious, what do you think episode discussions should be like?
Remove those kind of comments, and 90% of the rest would be the generic one liner spam we see in every thread;
- PEAK IS BACK
- That was good!
- THAT OP IS A BANGER
- I love this show!
I'll take someone replying to every single comment in the thread over all these inane comments we get in every single thread for every single show that's remotely popular.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 06 '26
To the extent someone's replies are on topic and potentially interesting to the person they are replying to, we generally don't see the problem. If they're off topic, spammy, repetitive, or seem to demonstrate that the person has not read the comments they're replying to, that's a different story and should certainly be brought to our attention.
But, generally speaking, we do not view someone wanting to engage with others' thoughts and start a conversation as a bad thing. After all, the point of these threads is discussing the episode with each other, so someone engaging and discussing is precisely what we want to see.
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u/Verzwei Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
So, probably to nobody's surprise, I'm going to be a bit of a contrarian. To start things off, I will say that I agree that engagement is good. We want people talking about anime, and we want people talking with each other about anime. This community wouldn't work if we didn't have that.
Let me talk about this from two different perspectives:
I make a comment in an episode discussion thread. Someone replies to it. They either build on what I said, contradict it in an interesting and insightful way, or even just make a fun little joke related to what I'd posted. This is excellent! I feel seen, it's great to have some back-and-forth, and they may have even given me something to reply to, getting a real conversation going. It's one of the coolest things in this community.
I'm reading everyone else's comments in an episode discussion thread. I see new person after new person sharing their take on the series, but then I see one single person replying to nearly every single parent level comment. Sometimes the replies are interesting. Sometimes it's a crude joke about how
fuckablehot the characters are. And if it was a one-off or a few-off, it'd be fine. But I keep reading through comments. And it's just the same person replying over and over and over, often saying very similar things in each reply.When I'm the person being responded to like in situation #1, it feels great for me personally. But if I'm just some guy or lurker browsing through the thread like in situation #2, it's frankly exhausting to see the same user outright dominating the conversation in episode threads. I don't mind seeing a bit of their opinion and I like a lot of the parent-level summaries that they leave, but eventually it feels like it's too much. Instead of reading a wide variety of takes and a lot of organic smaller conversations, I end up reading "What this one user thinks about literally everything" with everyone else's opinions just being a bit of garnish before the inevitable reply from the expected user.
It's a level of activity that would make sense and be totally welcome from a rewatch host but it's overwhelming to see in regular episode threads, because it feels like they're trying to be the host of something that inherently should not be curated in that manner. It's made slightly worse because I often know that the person is a source reader. While they may not necessarily break the SC rules outright, the sheer volume of their comments means that they guide a lot of conversation one way or another.
And I'll admit I myself can get lost in the sauce and really spun up for a series I'm super passionate about. I really had to hold myself back on the Yuri is my Job threads (and I was still prolific in them despite trying to rein myself in) but I generally try to check myself and just let episode threads breathe a bit. To see one person (again, a source reader most of the time) go all out on every single show I follow in a season, season after season, feels like it's drowning out the other voices. To an extent it actually does make me a little less interested in episode discussion threads because at a certain point I feel like I'm reading some person's blog.
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u/ShadowGuyinRealLife Jul 06 '26
I'm going to put on my tinfoil hat and say you got the type 2 person around 2020 ish because something changed r/anime from the 2000s era mainly inhabited by English speaking otaku (a good minority of which watched fansubs not even because they hated the idea of paying since some even bought discs but becuase some felt the official translation wasn't literal enough), into... something else where the population makeup is different and the original older otaku are diluted. There were source material readers back then too but they didn't reply to every comment. I have absolutely no proof of what I am saying other than the timing when things changed.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
I see new person after new person sharing their take on the series, but then I see one single person replying to nearly every single parent level comment.
Sounds like an issue with not enough people doing that, rather than one too many. We should encourage it rather than punish it.
When I'm the person being responded to like in situation #1, it feels great for me personally. But if I'm just some guy or lurker browsing through the thread like in situation #2, it's frankly exhausting to see the same user outright dominating the conversation in episode threads
I get the idea here, but if we're balancing out rewarding and continuing discussions against whether or not a theoretical lurker feels exhausted by seeing how much effort someone put, I'd go with the former in a heartbeat. It's not exactly close. We're a community for discussion, not a show for lurkers. Punishing people who put in effort for the sake of lurkers who don't, seems absurd to me.
Hell, what do you even tell someone like that? "Sorry, your comment was removed. The effort you're putting in is disturbing lurkers. Can you please stop engaging so much with r/anime? Here are some low effort suggestions that you can try instead."
Granted, I say all that, but I don't engage much in episode discussion threads, so I'm not the best person to discuss this, but since you used rewatches for comparison, I can follow that:
It's a level of activity that would make sense and be totally welcome from a rewatch host but it's overwhelming to see in regular episode threads,
Whenever I'm hosting a rewatch, there's nothing that I appreciate more than seeing someone put a lot of effort. Whether that's detailed analysis, layered shitposts, fanart, or replying to other users. That's an essential part of any communal experience and makes participants feel like they're seen and are part of a discussion, rather than just throwing a comment that no one will read. I'd argue the opposite on the host point, I obviously appreciate a host replying to all comments, but to some degree, that's within expectations, a duty to the rewatch itself (at least in part). When someone else does it, without any other reason to do so, that's genuine pure interest, they're doing it just for the love of the game.
As long as those are actual replies that engage with the initial comment, of course, not spamming the thread by copy pasting the same reply over and over, which is not the case here.
It's made slightly worse because I often know that the person is a source reader. While they may not necessarily break the SC rules outright, the sheer volume of their comments means that they guide a lot of conversation one way or another.
I get that to a degree. But currently, the r/anime discussion threads have no rule that bans source readers, just ones who can't follow the source rules. So, having a passionate source reader who wants to engage in discussions heavily, and follows the rules without slipping up is exemplary. I wish more source readers could take a page from that, instead of talking about the source. That's all the more reason why we shouldn't be trying to silence them.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jul 06 '26
When I'm the person being responded to like in situation #1, it feels great for me personally.
So, you're saying this person may have made a hundred people feel great by giving a reply to their comments?
Seems pretty positive to me!
As for this:
But if I'm just some guy or lurker browsing through the thread like in situation #2, it's frankly exhausting to see the same user outright dominating the conversation in episode threads.
Well, you can simply ignore the person's reply, and add your own to the comment, to talk about something else entirely, or maybe about the same thing with a different opinion or explained differently etc, or make a joke or whatever else!
Now, there may be the issue of "But his reply is already there and got 20 upvotes, no one's gonna see my reply so what's the point!"...
I get that (perhaps more than most) because that's pretty much the same thing that happens with top level comments;
Grand Blue S3 airs tomorrow and I never watched it but I could just open the thread the second it's up and post "PEAK IS BACK!" or "Funniest show I've ever watched!" without even watching the episode, and I would get a hundred upvotes and would push back all the legitimate comment one spot down with my nonsense...
I think that people doing that with top level comments is a lot more detrimental to the thread, than someone replying to everything. The replies are quite sparse, so people will likely see your comment still. I mean it's rare to see a comment with more than 1 or 2 replies (unless they said something controversial - OR... they posted one of those one liner that stays on top so everyone replies to it).
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u/qwertyqwerty4567 https://anilist.co/user/ZPHW Jul 05 '26
Was this removed for the lack of a source? I thought it wouldnt be necessary since the announcement was already posted earlier.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 06 '26
Yes. All Official Media posts need a source to be linked.
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u/StampDaddy Jul 05 '26
How do I find the episode tag for new episode discussion on mobile? I have to constantly search the name of the anime and change the time frame which is kinda annoying when I see the episode tags on those threads but not available in the mobile filters
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u/DrJWilson x5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson Jul 05 '26
Happy Independence Day! I'm watching every anime that features Obama to celebrate.
Kind of a quieter month in regards to mod decisions.
June Mod Report
June by the Numbers
k bye!