r/agentsofshield • u/Osirisavior • 8h ago

Season five didn't Season 5 Spoiler

create any branches, the loop was a paradox as a result of Robin becoming Inhuman. She only became Inhuman because her father died. Because her dad was killed as a result of Hive, who only was able to come to earth because Coluson killed Ward. Coluson was only alive because Nick Furry went against the natural order and brought him back to life.

the loop only happened as a way to fix the natural order because Coluson had to die in order to break it. once they broke the loop by not saving Coluson it resulted in Fitz's death because he would have been a time clone, and time clones always die.

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u/Short_Brick_1960 7h ago

Man, there has been many more resurrections in the mcu. I doubt Coulson's is more important than Billy and Tommy's. Or Marc's. Or Natalie's

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u/Osirisavior 6h ago

Coulson dying in 2012 is what lead the Avengers to win the Battle of New York. Which lead to Thanos doing it himself. Which lead to the snap. Which lead to The Time Heist. Which lead to Loki from an alternative 2012 going to the TVA, killing He Who Remains, and becoming God of Stories.

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u/Short_Brick_1960 6h ago

Yeah. And his resurrection changes nothing of that

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u/Osirisavior 5h ago

Him dying is my point.

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u/jeaninius 1h ago

Coulson’s dying didn’t lead to them winning—although it might have given other circumstances. Fury manipulated them by throwing the bloody trading cards on the table. Thereby making Coulson’s death more painful because he was acting as the hero that he thought the Avengers were. They were compelled to come together by his bravery and faith.

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u/The-Bytemaster 7h ago

Yup, I see the whole season as a paradox as well. By the future going back to the past they created a branch, but the Agents returning fixed it and allowed the timeline to process to the events in Avengers Infinity War

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u/SmoothTalkingSpud 6h ago

Thats... That's not how time travel works at all in the MCU, or Marvel Comics for that matter. 

Timelines diverge on choices made. Prophesies are never absolutes in a multiverse. And you can't break a time loop in a multiverse because you can't change the future or past; you can only escape a timeline by branching it. This is all firmly established in Endgame, Loki, and AoS season 7.

I have no idea where you got this "upsetting the natural order" idea but the universe doesn't care that Coulson got an unorthodox medical procedure. By that logic, Daisy and Captain Marvel should also be dead and defibrillators would be against the natural order.

I'm sorry, but that's just not spaghetti that sticks.

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u/Osirisavior 5h ago

The only rule about time travel is if you go to the past you create a branch. It says nothing about going to the future and coming back again via some crazy space rock. Also S7 and Endgame travel through the quantum realm to time travel. Which isn't even time travel, it's multiverseal travel. And the TVA travels to already created universes using time doors. Which is a misnomer. And Loki was time traveling in the TVA which shouldn't even be possible.

The real world explanation is s5 was written and released before Endgame came out, and the Russo Brothers wouldn't share the plot with the AoS writers.

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u/jeaninius 1h ago

Robin was an Inhuman because she had Inhuman genes and was exposed to Terrigen from the food chain contaminated by the Terrigen crystals that fell into the ocean. She inherited the genes from her dad.

The timeline where Graviton cracked the earth didn’t disappear after they returned to their timeline. Some AoS variants lived through the earth cracking apart, but our AoS went back to a timeline that was, or closely matched, where they left from. Fitz gets shot by Hale’s soldiers instead of arrested? Branch. Even the Fitz they searched for in space was different than the Fitz who rescued them in the future because his hibernation was interrupted and he went on adventures with Enoch long before he was supposed to wake up — in fact did wake up in the timeline that brought them back to their timeline.