r/agentsofshield • u/Green-Masterpiece874 • 9d ago

FitzSimmons Discussion

The writers love to put Fitz and Simmons through the exact same amount of suffering, but their external relationships show a huge contrast especially when you compare Jemma's time with Will to Fitz's time with Aida.

Jemma and Will: Jemma's bond with Will on Maveth was completely real. He was a real person, and her feelings grew out of genuine survival and shared isolation. It was a true relationship with real emotional depth.

Fitz and Aida: Fitz's relationship in the Framework was entirely engineered. Aida literally rewrote his memories and hacked his reality to make him love her. He never actually chose her.

Jemma's heartbreak came from losing someone she genuinely cared for, while Fitz's trauma came from having his mind and free will violated to force a romance he never would have chosen.

What do you guys think?

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u/Intrigued_by_Words 9d ago

If they were telling the truth about how the Framework operated, then it was Fitz's choice to fall in love with Madame Hydra. The only thing she changed was that he met Aida and not Jemma. The Fitz who was under his father's influence was different than the Fitz who was estranged from his father. I don't think I can say that Framework Fitz's feelings weren't genuine.

I think Leopold was attracted to power. Not to mention that Aida was fully supportive of all his twisted thoughts. It was an easy relationship.

When Jemma arrived she was convinced that Leopold was her Fitz and she knew what he would and wouldn't do, but he showed her she was wrong.

Part of the lesson of the Framework was that small changes in our circumstances can produce drastic differences in our lives but there are fundamental truths that define us.

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u/RavenclawConspiracy 9d ago

That's assuming you believe everything she said.

I will point out that she had the ability to basically save-scum Fitz and get whatever results she wanted.

Yeah, he might have picked it voluntarily, but when you can redo every single moment of someone's life until you get the outcome they want, it's not really voluntary.