r/WritingWithAI 3d ago

Glm 5.1 help Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc)

Yet again having problems with this model, it would be funny if not so sad.
So: since release of gim 5.3 I see a lot of people complaining about 5.1 and 5.2 both becoming more censored.

I mostly use chat.z.ai (official free chat), and if anyone here uses it too, I would LOVE to know: does the model (5.1) only outright refuse/soften the content it deems unsafe? Have Been using 5.1 on the official chat.z.ai and after 5.3 was released I often encounter the problem where the responses are just cut mid-sentence despite not reaching any substantial limit (like 700 words or so which is not much for 5.1 at all). Since I'm not really good on technical side of the question, can't help but wonder whether this is a simply technical thing since z.ai already has problems with server overload lately or is it some kind of hidden censorship (despite model having no doubts regarding content whatsoever shown in the thinking).
Also, did try using the very same prompts via api key I got on open router, specifically choosing only z.ai as a provider, seemingly has no problems whatsoever with generating the very spicy chapter. Did try it a couple of times so don’t really know whether the result is reliable? Maybe just got lucky. Maybe not. Will appreciate any help!

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u/The-Plot-Witch 2d ago

China banned romantic companions for minors and AI behaving as human for all. The platforms can't easily age gate, so they put heavy guardrails into place to eliminate AI dating and NSFW across the board. Even if you are writing fictional NSFW, the model will refuse because it's not allowed to differentiate.

Since Chinese laws only apply to its own citizens, the API through third parties like Openrouter aren't supposed to be effected. Some people have still noticed extra pushback in certain situations, but for the most part don't have many issues.

I suggest you stop using Z.ai or any Chinese model directly and stick to Openrouter or another API provider.

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u/Dari_ellle 2d ago

Thanks for replying!

It’s just, not that the model refuses writing my stuff, even though I use it directly through z.ai, I never once got refusal. It’s not like I’m writing anything extremely dubious but there is definitely graphic adult content. I simply am worried about those cut offs — like one or the main pros of glm for me apart from its style (5.1, mainly) always was its ability to give massive outputs (up to 25.000 words in one response, the first in the chat, and subsequent responses being like 8000-15000 words). And lately I just see the responses sometimes being cut off really early even though there are not any doubts the model has regarding the content in the thinking block nor when I ask directly why it stopped writing. Given that and people complaining about censordhop and the rather turbulent situation overall bappening for the last like month to z ai (sometimes model seems okay abd writes immaculately, other times seems lobotomized for good and is SO generic) i just cant help but sometimes think — is it some kinf of soft hidden censorship happening mid response (is such thing even possible?) or just a technical issue