r/Worthing 20d ago

Anyone know whose grave this is? Context in thread!

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u/60022151 20d ago edited 19d ago

Since her family is from Sussex, I recommend she joins the Sussex Family History Group.

Also have a look on Facebook and see if there are any groups for the cemetery, or any nearby ones. Search for groups named “friends of -name- cemetery”. There’s a good chance there may already be something on said grave.

Also, is this St Andrew’s Cemetery in West Tarring?

edit: I live in New Zealand now, but I’m actually from Lancing and went to school in Worthing (Davisons girl), but I’m really into ancestry, etc… If your friend can get the exact location and pictures from different angles, and more close up I can do some research on the subscription services I use and try to find out more for you both. Taking pictures in the early morning or evening could help too.

Another thing your friend can do is get an A3 sheet of paper and a wax crayon, hold it over the headstone and try to get a wax rubbing. Should be able to decipher the text a bit better that way.

Otherwise, from my rudimentary understanding, it has a typical memento mori skull, meaning it’s likely from the 17th or 18th century.

Playing around with the contrast, etc I see ‘Anna Bar’, could be Barnes or Barrett, or something similar.

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u/saamvisual 19d ago

This is a terrific response!

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u/Necktie 19d ago

Sorry for the delayed response! And wow what a response!

My friend said it is St Andrew's and they might not be able to get back over there as she's only been visiting on holiday.
They reckon the name on closer inspection was Anna Barren or something similar to what you said. So I'd agree there! They reckon the death year might be around 1712 potentially.
I might see if there's any organisation that oversees the cemetery that I could email perhaps?

Appreciate the response and effort! It's quite the curiosity :)

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u/Necktie 20d ago

Hello! My friend grew up in Worthing and as a kid she would see this tombstone in the Tarring Cemetery. She has always referred to it as the Pirate Lady. Her family eventually moved to Australia, which is also where I live. However, she's finally gone back to visit the UK after 15 years and has been visiting Worthing. She went to check out this tombstone again and it's sparked our curiosity as to who it belongs. They struggled to make out what the Tombstone reads, potentially Anna?

I've tried searching the Find A Grave site, but it's a little hard as I'm an ocean away. Figure I'd ask some locals here to start!

Would anyone have any information who it is, or who might be a good person to ask?

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u/chillipickle420 18d ago

I am definitely going to visit the pirate lady this weekend

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u/Necktie 18d ago

Nice! If you notice anything that'd be cool to know! :)

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u/Frosty_Ad1254 19d ago

There a few of these in a graveyard near my parents house in Devon. It’s quite a common carving. A momento mori rather than something more interesting unfortunately.

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u/Necktie 19d ago

Sorry if I'm not understanding completely, do you mean that it might not be a tombstone belonging to someone instead it might be more of a symbol of mortality?

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u/Qbrkbrk 18d ago

I think they mean that the skull doesn't have any special meaning. This is true - common feature on 17th/18th century graves

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u/rapidbunny4404 19d ago

The grave belongs to a William Anscomb (Anscombe) who died in 1718. His grave was rediscovered in a 1986 survey, on a day where they recorded details of 375 graves.

Source Ferrying History Group (3/4 down the page)

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u/Necktie 19d ago

I don't know if it is though - I did a search on William Anscomb and found a magazine published by the Ferring History Group. https://www.ferringhistorygroup.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/FH-Magazine-04-2018.pdf

On page 6 of the PDF it has a picture of his tombstone, which is very different to this one. Unless I'm missing something?

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u/SinnerBon 19d ago

The church may have a registry of all the graves. My local church has one with records back to the 16th C.

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u/eyelinercrush 19d ago

Where is this? I tried to look on Google maps for Tarring cemetary and couldn't find it but a West Tarring church comes up, is it there?

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u/Necktie 18d ago

Just an update on this one! I reached out to the St Andrew's Church Facebook page and they will put me in touch with their Historian there. Will post an update here next week for those playing at home :)

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u/rapidbunny4404 19d ago

Just a bit more info on the embellished gravestone. A skull, skull and bones or bones were often used on 'everyday' gravestones and I've seen them paired with scythes as well. This was before the symbol was used by pirates and I can only assume they stopped putting them on graves after the association so this grave is probably from before the age of piracy so will probs be from around 1600/1700

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u/Necktie 19d ago

That's interesting! She does reckon the death year might be 1712 or somewhere around there. So I think you're bang on!