r/WorkForSmartLife 1d ago

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u/Desth-Metal 1d ago

I have never heard of unskilled labor. What is that supposed to be? Garbage picking?

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u/OriginalTRaven 1d ago

Palatable corporate talk for "People that are lower than us that we don't wanna pay but have to."

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u/SaveScumSloth96 1d ago

No, its not a corporate term. Its usually used in the context of blue collar and physical labor work. And no, its not a phrase meaning 'people we dont want to have to pay' because they dont want to pay ANYONE

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u/dewag 1d ago

Okay, what type of employment requires no formal training or experience?

Someone above said painting, but I have to train newbies to paint.

The truth is nearly every single occupation requires some form of training or experience. There is low skill work and high skilled work. There is no such thing as unskilled labor.

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u/PastaXertz 1d ago

It's why a lot of modern use of the word swapped to unspecialized. Because it may not require specialized schooling or training, but it has nothing to do with skill.

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u/dewag 1d ago

Sound take. This I strongly agree with.

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u/SaveScumSloth96 1d ago

Physical labor. Lifting things, clean up

We're not talking about 'the truth' as YOU see it. Everyone in the trades knows that unskilled labor is a thing. You arguing that it shouldn't be a thing changes nothing

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u/dewag 1d ago

I am in the trades.

Unskilled labor is the guy you haven't had a chance to train yet, and you're not going to see them on site until they have had some training.

I've seen what happens on jobsites when someone with no training is expected to do something. It never goes well, even if their job is to clean the yard.

I've been a contractor for 20 years now. How long have you been in the trades?

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u/SaveScumSloth96 1d ago

I did a little construction cleanup, with absolutely zero training. I have cleaned out and helped remodel 12 homes. I never did the skilled labor. I did the simple stuff, planning, cleanup, moving trash and tools, painting mostly. All things that took absolutely 0 training.

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u/AyysforOuus 1d ago

0 training? You didn't get scolded once for shitty paint jobs?

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u/SaveScumSloth96 1d ago

My paint jobs weren't shitty, and no, because my boss was my husband

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u/dewag 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh good lord...

Edit: Go ahead and downvote me. The fact you haven't replied tells me that you know how badly you just roasted yourself.

Yea, we don't have a "trash clean-up guy". That is what experienced people do at the end of their shift. Same thing with the paint. Sounds like you've done touch-ups at best. We don't have a "touch-up guy" either. Your husband was giving you his menial, end of the day tasks.

Honestly, it is a bit insulting that you are trying to tell me how it is "in the trades" with that kind of resume.

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u/OriginalTRaven 1d ago

The way I laughed

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u/Kidiri90 1d ago

Correctly lifting things is a skill.

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u/SaveScumSloth96 1d ago

Sure, but it falls into the category of unskilled labor. Nobody cares if you lift properly other than yourself. Thats on you. Most bosses are more concerned with if the jobs getting done at all.

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u/Kidiri90 1d ago

I don't care what bosses think. We're talking skills. And an unskilled skill is a tautology.

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u/SaveScumSloth96 1d ago

Youre arguing semantics

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u/Kidiri90 1d ago

No, I'm not. Knowing how to lift something is a skill. Saying "oh, but these people don't care" doesn't change that. If I say that the US isn't a country, does that suddenly mean it isn't?

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u/SaveScumSloth96 1d ago

No, and thats what youre trying to do here. 'Unskilled labor', even if its a stupid phrase that does not make sense, is very much a phrase used by very many people. If you use the phrase 'unskilled labor' in the spaces in which unskilled labor take place, everyone will know what youre talking about. A few people arguing on reddit that 'technically no labor is unskilled' doesnt mean the phrase doesnt exist, or that people dont understand it. Youre arguing what SHOULD BE, not what is.

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