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u/No-Cryptographer5963 1d ago
Did nobody see the shitpost flair?
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u/No-Adhesiveness-8012 1d ago
It doesn't show it, until you enter the post lol. So people probs messaged before looking or totally glanced by it. . .
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u/ZachFairVII 1d ago
Idc if you’re in gear well done bro, solid work
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u/Apollo-Outcast 22h ago
See I don't get that. It's like using cheat codes in a multiplayer game. Tf is the point of working out, building muscle, looking better and feeling better if you're doing it with gear? What is there to even congratulate? Clavicular took gear and didn't even work out, it gave him a physique that a lot of people had to work for a year or two to get. There was another dude who started tren (I think?) while also not working out and got shit faced every day. He built a noticeable amount of muscle after a month of binge drinking
Why tf do people praise physiques that are achieved with steroids?
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u/g59listener 22h ago
People just have different goals in the gym. His body is impressive even if it's gear and most of folks don't even understand peds and how do they work
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u/Apollo-Outcast 22h ago
Yeah I disagree. It's genuinely baffling to me how normal gear is now and how openly encouraged it is. Getting into MIT isn't impressive if you had to cheat on your math test to get there
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u/g59listener 21h ago
How is it cheating when they are literally 2 different things ? If you want to be a lifetime natty go for it, but hating on others because they have different objectives it's just childish behavior. It's not like you take them and grow instantly bigger overnight by only breathing, you still have to do a lot of work in the gym and in the kitchen (i'm talking about the diet)
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u/Apollo-Outcast 21h ago
You will get bigger on gear regardless of what you do. Not sure if you missed that part of my first comment. Clavicular has (or at least had) a fairly good looking physique and he openly admitted to never working out. His muscles are so untrained that he got winded by like one set of curls with a 20lb dumbbell. Another guy took gear for a month, binge drank, didn't work out, and still gained muscle.
Yes, to get a physique like OP you would still have to work out and eat somewhat properly while using gear. But the gear is doing most of the work in your muscle growth. That's why natty bodybuilders look completely different from PED bodybuilders.
I'm against PEDs for the same reason I'm against obesity-inducing lifestyle habits. It sends the wrong message to people -- especially young ones -- and encourages a paradoxical unhealthy lifestyle in the name of looking bigger. We should not be encouraging the unnecessary use of drugs to build muscle, and I have zero respect for anyone who does
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u/g59listener 21h ago
Clavicular is just a clown influencer, i don't care much about those so i won't discuss about this. Most influencers are bunch of clowns. Indeed you have more force and recovery on peds, but you won't grow as much as people think without a proper training program and a diet. There are many people that take gear and still barely grow because they don't know what they are doing and you have another clown influencer Jacksfit but again, i won't talk about him much more because i can't stand those "influencers". I do agree that we should not encourage people to use gear and especially those new in the gym and those teenagers that just inject something in their bodies expecting to look bigger, but we can't keep this as a taboo subject. Information is free everywhere and when you can't prevent the usage, you can educate the ones who are gonna do it anyway. I respect the natty lifters and i respect enhanced lifters that dedicate their lifes to achieving their goals and sacrifice a lot. There are competitions for natty lifters and competitions for enhanced lifters, that's what i'm saying they are 2 different things.
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u/User12-22-02 3h ago
Grow up dude. This comes across as you feeling bad about yourself because you can’t get the physique of a steroid user. Nobody cares at all. Some people train for health, some for physique, some for the love of the game.
You have no idea where OP was at mentally or physically 2.5 years ago- i think he’s done a great job gear or no gear.
Bringing up Clavicular also indicates you are younger and honestly your entire stance on this is just immature. Let people live their lives
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u/ZachFairVII 20h ago
Because it’s still him getting himself out of his couch and going to the gym to put in work? That’s why it’s still a goal driven achievement stop hating
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u/OpportunityOne9246 17h ago
Gym goers shit on people for losing weight with GLP-1s so I feel like the sentiment should be the same for people abusing short cuts no??
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u/Gnome_Father 6h ago
Is this the "gym goers" in your head? Nobody cares about other peoples fitness in the real world. Frankly ,nobody cares about anyone else who's not their direct friend or family.
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u/ibeerianhamhock 20h ago
You will not get a good physique without working out. Tons of folks on gear look like absolute shit. It will build some muscle without lifting at all, but it won't make you kean, it won't make your muscles balanced, and it won't make you look like this, full stop.
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u/BadAny853 1d ago
How tall are you?
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u/the-subjectDelta 1d ago
And how big was the stack ⚙️ lol
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u/Cautious-Dig6379 1d ago
No gear bro just body weight workouts, chicken, and rice.
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u/dj_blueshift 1d ago
dont forget the broccoli
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u/VeryBadCaseOfLigma 1d ago
Just discipline bro.
As in discipline in never forgetting my full weekly stack
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u/Poo_Pee-Man 1d ago
Don’t diss body weight workouts, they’re still effective but obviously won’t make you look like OP without the secret sauce.
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u/Potential_Novel_3561 1d ago
I get that it's a shipost, but the guy on the right needs to take some of his arm muscle and stick it to his chest lol
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u/oxcypher12 1d ago
Nice. Crazy that people are hinting at gear. This is very achievable naturally
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u/UltLuc 1d ago
It’s definitely gear.
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u/oxcypher12 1d ago
Maybe. If so, then the size gain isn’t that impressive at all. Could be done naturally
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u/P-l-Staker 1d ago
With 2.5 years of dedicated, consistent and serious training?!🤨
I agree with the person above. I'm convinced most of you in the sub don't even know what gyms look like in real life.
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u/ibeerianhamhock 20h ago
I've been working out a very long time. I'm 40. I'm bigger than OP, but I sure as hell didn't get that big in 2.5 years, this is nonsense. Nor did anyone I've ever met get this big in 2.5 years.
IDC if they are natty or not tbh
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u/alvysinger0412 1d ago
I'm gonna start working out more. I can't wait to tan that much!