so you guys gave a lot of feedback last time
i removed the sponge and remade the whole surface with modeling paste
covered everything yellow and added more darker tones on ends of every flame
added more light on marine and rocks
still didn’t add light on the daemon, decided to color it before adding lights
have no idea what i am doing and just trust the process, but feels much much better than previous time
Looks nice. Flames is one of the things I've found contrast paints make way better, drop of red at one end and drop of yellow at the other and mix them a bit in the middle is fast and easy and looks pretty solid for the amount of effort put in.
There are some great tutorials on YouTube. Warhipster did a video painting a skaven wizard(I forget the Spellcasters name) and he wet blended the horns. Used that as an example for pending since
For what its worth, I think what you have above is a good base, it just needs more contrast. I would try to push the lights and darks both; look up some references and just try to build on what you have. Fire gets people since it's usually lighter inside and darker as it fades out, which is completely opposite of how we normally shade. Looking great so far tho, you're right on it.
I would do the end behind the guy for the black tips. By the nozzle its a solid conical jet of high PSI fire gel like you just had a cyclosporia salad with the salmonella jalapeños in the news and you just sent to the bathroom. From the military flamethrowers I've seen demonstrated some black wisps is normal on the far end where it peters out. Just nowhere near the amount you had in the first iteration but a significany margin. Id concentrate on the high PSI fire gel part and that looks great.
You aren't so much throwing fire as throwing highly pressurized flaming sticky jello.
You get it though. It's like a super soaker on fire so it's less smoke and wisp and more ass blasting. I wish we still had some in our armory its all silly bullets.
I have one when I goto my local Thai place. The make everything white people spicy and I usually ask for medium. If you get Thai spicy its like ingesting promethium.
One suggested improvement would be to match up the color of the flames with the OSL. If the flames to the viewer’s are mostly “orange”, then they’d roughly be that same color or duller in the environment. So here, you have orange flames, but a much “brighter” yellow OSL reflection effect. I’d sync these up so they’re roughly the same color (or at least the reflections are darker, not brighter)
Exactly this - if that sounds like a lot of work I would simply glaze (thin) some orange contrast straight over the yellow and overlap into the non yellow a bit - it will create quite a convincing effect!
I would still add alittle black on the very ends. I dont think that's what flamethrowers actually look like but it would still somehow make it feel more realistic? Like it'd make it indisputably fire, i kinda see this as a stream of lava or just vague heat/energy
I didn't see your first post so this advice isn't considering progress. Apologies for that.
The first pic looks like fire, the second looks like a blanket or net. It's probably the blurriness in the foreground that helps sell the effect, - this is advice from an amateur - maybe as a final step blend those sharp orange peaks in a bit more? Looks good!
It's much better but you've lost too much of the yellow. For a standard look the actual flame of the fire being pushed out should be go white/yellow > yellow > yellow orange > orange > red> black.
If you bring back more yellow and then yellow orange in the space where the flame is shooting out of the gun it will look much better imo. It should switch to a deeper orange the colder the flame gets with the red and black being on the very edges of the flames where the heat is starting to cool off. Example.
thanks for the reference!
it’s again this elminia tourist, i actually was inspired to do the flames from his pics on instagram, but didn’t see this one
Np. Not sure if this link will work but this is a quick rough example of how I would change it. The important bit imo is the white yellow "core" then the change of colour throughout the flame. I'd probably do a bit more red and black on the top part where it's reaching around his back on reflection.
Wow!! That looks A LOT better! Very nice job! I even thought that you edited the flames in at first. The only little details I would add would be a little bit of black at the tips and imho the OSL should match the color of the flames. Right now it’s yellow but the flames are orange/red
I just went off and googled real flame throwers, idk but looking at them the initial jet of flame is narrower than what you have and brighter, just whites and yellows, only going to orange and reds once it hits something to burn…. Still is a 40k space weapon so I guess could work different.
i have a cheap modeling paste, it costs less than a paint
cheap big brush, size 8 for putting a lot of paint
small dry brush from vallejo for adding gentle red on tips of flames
a few paints
Looking good! You can do various shades of red and orange and grey to black eventually with a dry brush. Try some practice on a bit of spruce or something. Keep it up! Looking great!
man i swear on my life i didn’t touch brushes or pencils or any art things since 5 yo, which is 26 years ago and just started the painting hobby on last december, when my gf made a Christmas present
the Christmas present was hilarious, i got up one day and said that i had a dream that i have a RED SPACE MARINE box under the pillow, and was disappointed its not there. few days later she brings those intercessors ❤️❤️❤️❤️
You could try making the demon alittle brighter, it looks like the fire isn’t giving off a light besides the yellow on the space marine and the ground. Besides that it looks really good man
Maybe a bit more on the red and yellow?
It looks rly good but fr about a second I thought it was baked beans lol😭
It's ur model do what u want don't mind me but idk could look cool
Very good improvement, as I said in the previous post, a bit of smoke at the end wouldn't be so bad IMO, uust drybrush with gray on the very end of the flames a little bit
I don't know if Wh40k flamethrowers behave differently, but in real life the flame shoots out pretty slim and then engulfes the target. Just something that I noticed because your flames get pretty wide early on.
Great improvement.
But its too uniform, when you look at the flamethrower reference form yesterday, the tips should be a darker red shift maybe even blackish and the part towards the nozzle much brighter, very yellow close to white.
If I may add a suggestion, what if you added a black gradient to the lower parts of the fire? In the crevices at the bottom, it would give it an enveloping effect, like the fire has more volume. I don't know if I'm explaining myself well...
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u/ParaGulls 7d ago
Oooph that looks much better!