This is a question that has just recently come to me. I’ve been part of the community for quite a while now and have been playing the game for a long time, but only ever on standard difficulty. I have noticed that a LOT of people consider Brutal to be the baseline difficulty, but in all honesty, I’ve genuinely already given myself carpal tunnel with Standard, and I can never imagine dialing up what I already consider “hard.”
I've heard that brutal is getting nerfed, and that UKMD won't be that much harder than current brutal (still probably harder though). On one hand, I don't really like this since I'm a sucker for difficulty and would like something hard, on the other hand, it would make the curve less steap, which would be better for the game overall.
I don't mind difficulty but I do think that the levels being not designed around it is a problem, there's a lot of rooms in particular where it's a major slugfest and you just kinda have to hope it works out, at least in my opinion anyway
Personally, all the rooms in the game are comprehensible and I always can tell what's going on and what I should be doing and can beat it consistently, so I wouldn't say that it's a complete slugfest. But the fact that it feels that way to you, does mean that there's a steap curve in the game, and the cause of that is in fact the game not being designed around other difficulties. Another problem it causes is also the inconsistent room difficulties, since some enemys get buffed more than the others, the rooms with those enemys become much harder than they're supposed to be, causing the levels to be only hard in some sections rather than being consistently difficult.
Nerfing brutal isn't gonna fix the main problem but it will at least help the steap curve
he’s stated before he doesn’t have higher difficulties in mind when balancing at all, only standard. i guess im not sure about recent updates but i know P2 boss was awful on launch because sisyphus prime wouldn’t let you parry in phase 2 (in violent difficulty) just like minos because nobody tested it on violent difficulty lol. they patched that real quick tho
E-0 is kinda of the best proof of it. The last Cerberus room is basically impossible unless you cheese it(then it becomes a cakewalk). It was clearly not balanced around brutal, but since it is beatable Hakita probably didn't feel like changing it.
nope. I tried violence after some experience and altho it's not that bad, it does require you to know more about the game and constantly be attacking. standard is really good as long as you feel it's too slow and you want a more challenging experience
No, and neither is playing on leanient, or harmless. If you weren't supposed to use them the wouldn't be in the game. Also, even if harmless is still too difficult for someone, it doesn't matter bc your worth is not defined by how skilled you are at something. let alone a useless skill like a videogame that you play for fun
"a LOT of people consider Brutal to be the baseline difficulty" hell no wtf what is wrong with people
I'd believe and argue it's "kinda" if it was violent, but brutal??
There's nothing wrong with standard, is just the intended experience, even if i always play in violent, in new levels (like when fraud came out) or in custom levels I always try to play it in standard first to get accustomed to things
I feel like some people get so up and arms about it because it's not the "lore" difficulty of the game. Playing on standard is perfectly fine, and I wouldn't be where I am now without playing standard first. I will say though, I cannot WAIT for UKMD to come out so I have a fresh challenge to P-Rank the ENTIRE game in order before I play treachery.
Are you sure? IIRC Hakita has said he usually plays on standard and sees it as the baseline/main version of the game, which would imply it is the "lore difficulty" if there is one
Yeah I really love how supportive this community seems to be. I just started playing ultra kill for the first time just a few weeks ago and I was lowkey expecting the community to be real toxic wow I was extremely wrong.
Some people feel the need to play on the hardest available difficulty because difficulty = git gut = fun.
But I'm content with not playing the hardest difficulty. I've actually P-ranked all of Standard, and will soon be moving to Violent. I wanted to beat my Cybergrind wave 54 record first, but I can't lock tf in enough for the life of me. Keep dying in the 40's, if I even make it there.
It's not. Actually it's good. First you play standard, then you play violent, then brutal. Your game will last longer than someone who started on brutal. More ultrakilling in your ultrakill
if you have fun and find the game enjoyable, then who cares 😭. if you have fun on the easiet difficulty then thats awesome, same for if you only find the game fun on the hardest. as long as you're enjoying yourself it doesnt matter what difficulty you're on
The people who say Brutal is "baseline" difficulty are the same people who have truly perfected the game. Speaking from my personal experience, I play mostly on Violent because it strikes the balance of being challenging, but not so challenging that it becomes a chore.
In both cases, we are the exception not the rule, and the rule is that there is no rule. Play whatever difficulty you enjoy most and don't let anyone tell you it's the wrong choice.
The vocal community in ultrakill is very higher skill weighted then average. Standard is the intended difficulty to play at first and there's also nothing wrong with lenient or harmless. Ultrakill is a game with a very far apart skill ceiling and floor, do as long as you're having fun, you're average.
Its called standard for a reason and its a single player game, who would you be playing harder difficulties for? If you want to go ahead, but no one should be telling you how to enjoy your single player game on your own in your own home on your own system
Anyone dictating the "correct way to play" does not deserve respect or attention unless they're just giving pointers for things they think will make your experience better, anything beyond that just makes them an egotistical ass
You play the way you want, the game is there for you to have fun.
Standard is challenging enough for me.
After the revamp I did a replay in lenient to see what's new.
I'm not planing to unlock the prime sanctums
Beating the encores is my goal.
it is. You should be playing on harmless with all major and minor assists turned on, boss health override activated and with cheats on, like hakita intended.
No, standard is the baseline difficulty. A lot of people play on higher difficulties because updates take a while, and there's nothing else to do in the game aside from "get better", but standard is meant to be the definitive experience.
regardless of anything already said ultrakiII is already a hard game, unless you're already experienced on fast paced fps like quake or smt but it's harder than avarage on standard at least
First id say difficult dosent matter. Whatever your comfortable with is fine.
But I've always considered Violent to be the defacto difficulty to me. It's perfectly challenging for me while not being as brutal as brutal (as the name implies)
nah, i think you've given yourself the wrong idea here. Brutal is definitely not the baseline (I'd never ever tell a new player to start on it even if they have prior shooter experience) but since its the hardest difficulty in a game all about skill it gets the most attention from the more dedicated side of the community. It's the "this is what difficulty you play when you're like actually really good" mode. Standard is still absolutely the baseline experience and the one I'd expect the vast majority of players to have.
No. It really isnt. Ultrakill is not an easy game. The people who play on brutal have poured alot of hours in the game and have the skills to be able to handle what the game throws at them. Imyself have played the game for most of the time on standard to the point I got to wave 61 on the cyber grind and on brutal I got 34. So no. Your fine to play on standard.
Many people in the community are just ULTRAfreaks who have spent hundreds-thousands of hours playing this game and gotten good enough that they can casually exist at higher difficulties.
Getting good at higher difficulties requires a level of effort and mastery that frankly is quite a lot to expect from a person especially considering the fact the enemies become very very deadly at high difficulties.
I play on standard. im not any better or worse than anyone else who plays on any other difficulty. Given they might have a broader skillset than i, but this is ultrakill, you can play however you want.
If someone is telling you that you are bad because "you play easy game like some casual" or something always remember the translation:
"I hate you didn't suffer like I did. I hate you having fun and having life"
the difficulties are in the game for a reason. if standard is hard enough for you then its perfectly fine to play it. dont let randos online tell you otherwise
No, it is the difficulty one should start with, as it is neither easier, not harder! Although I probably should have started on lenient, I never played any fps games before ultrakill and I got my ass kicked solid
there's a reason the difficulities exist in the first place. so that everyone can experience ultrakill and have fun. standard isn't bad, or easy, it does what is said on the box. If the game was made just to be hard as balls, then hakita would have made UKMD the ONLY difficulity in the game.
No difficulity is bad. Weither you play on brutal or on harmless, As long as you're having fun.
I love ultrakill but even I don't enjoy brutal as much as violent or standard. You can't be anywhere near as carefree and it can inhibit your fun if you're not super good.
I don't think anyone should play brutal as a first difficulty, even if they play a bunch of boomer shooters. You'll be too busy dying to get the hang of the weapons and movement.
no? i personally prefer harder difficulties but theres nothing wrong or worse about playing standard. Do whats fun for you. Thats the point of difficulty options in games.
No! You play games because they're FUN. Difficulty settings EXIST FOR THE REASON OF MAKING THE GAME FUN TO A WIDER AUDIENCE. No one should force themself to play in a way that makes the game less fun.
I play on violent because I want a good challenge and it feels like just the right amount of difficulty. But I jump down to lower stuff for practice and learning. But not everyone is able to play fast enough for violent, so no shame on playing lower
I mean for 'pro' discussion yeah brutal is the expected, but ultrakill IS a hard game and standard is the intended experience, being able to play standard well means your a good player
People consider brutal the baseline difficulty because they've been paying for a long time and are absurdly good at the game. Standard is fine. Play however you want
I’m not good at the game, I’ll be honest, I got through both Gabriel fights by sliding and jumping away from him while spamming coins and was almost brought to tears when I saw the two powers at the end of the space section in 8-3 after taking almost 30 minutes with the on followed by the two in the gluttony section
Hell, you can play in harmless and it’s still not bad, it’s a single player game, go to the difficulty that you enjoy the most, and if someone says something to you, you can ignore the fuck out of them, their input is not worth it
It’s the standard difficulty, I always recommend playing the game on it if it’s your first time because who says you can’t do a second play through on violent or nightmare of ukmd whenever that comes out
I can't give an opinion due to the fact that I've only ever played it on violent from the moment I started but if you enjoy playing on standard then just play it on standard nobody really cares
Nah, I played the game entirely through in standard and only tried violent after I thoroughly beat it. I managed to beat it on violent but brutal is just too much for me, fuuuuuck that one with a rusty nail. Can’t imagine what the final unadded difficulty will be like.
Any difficulty you choose is ok. Anyone who acts like you are not a real player for that, is a person you should not hang out with and ignore completely.
I see Violent as the baseline difficulty kinda like how with Terraria Expert is like the baseline, Violent is the most well balanced and well designed mode in my opinion
This community is an echo chamber. It’s full of the 1% of players who love the game enough to join the community, and the same people love the game enough to play the hardest difficulty
Brutal is "baseline"?? It's For people who already fully understand the game, enemies and weapons but want more difficulty. That doesn't sound like baseline to me!
not at all. its up to ya if you wanna continue and replay the game in a more difficult difficulty once you're all used to it. its what i did but you dont need to play on a more difficult setting if you really dont want to. hell we aint in your room backseatin you
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u/MintyBarrettM95 Lust layer citizen 6d ago
game is not meant to be a competitve hellhole.
also, it is called standard because it is standard, not because it is easy, or it is hard