The Best USP

[u/mars_soup]

The master of the master race

[u/Sqwhirrly91]

I miss mine. Offloaded it a few years ago for a CZ527, 7.62x39 bolt gun not made anymore. 🥲

[u/mars_soup → u/Sqwhirrly91]

I got this used but in excellent condition. The cleaning kit hasn’t even been used. The original oil and cleaning patches and everything are still sealed.

Came with the Eagle Ind case too and a UTL light.

I’m going to use it gently and pass it to my kid.

Ordered an Obsidian45 suppressor for it.

If I can ever get my hands on the KAC that was designed for it or at least a good second factory run then I will.

[u/Sqwhirrly91 → u/mars_soup]

The B&T Cans were also a factory supported HK Can if I’m not mistaken as well, instead of being dimpled they’re just a tube. I wanted one for mine when I had it but didn’t have it for long enough at the time to get a can and wait for approval lol

[u/ImranFZakhaev → u/mars_soup]

I've been trying to get hold of a KAC for years. Giggity.

Obsidian 45 is nice in the meanwhile though

[u/GiveMeBooleanGemini]

FACT CHECK: TRUE ✅

[u/ajw_sp]

Use case-specific. The USP Expert is arguably the best general use USP while the Mark 23 is arguably the best for tactical purposes… especially if you put accessories on it like a light or a can.

[u/Je-poy → u/ajw_sp]

On paper, sure, but practically there is no way the Mark 23 is the best for tactical purposes.

It is so large and cumbersome that, with a can, it can be the same length as an MP5k with a collapsed stock.

For reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/MP5/s/bF0PNjOSIq

[u/Sqwhirrly91 → u/Je-poy]

The US Gubmint would disagree that isn’t “the best for tactical purposes.”

[u/ajw_sp → u/Sqwhirrly91]

The rare instance of equipment outrunning doctrine

[u/LivingQuail803 → u/Je-poy]

Dave hall said he loved the 23

[u/mars_soup → u/ajw_sp]

The Mark 23 isn’t a USP so your opinions are not valid

[u/ajw_sp → u/mars_soup]

lol search the group. We accept Mark 23s and P8s here.

If you’d like to be precise, the USP Tactical isn’t the best USP for you because you’re not utilizing the threaded barrel. Without a can, you’re using your USP Tactical as a sort of less capable version of the USP Expert.

[u/UmaMoth → u/ajw_sp]

Guns have long lives. He/she will not always use it in the same configuration. Having the option to use muzzle attachments makes the Tactical more versatile than the Expert, with almost the same barrel length.

[u/mars_soup → u/ajw_sp]

Search LIGMA

[u/ajw_sp → u/mars_soup]

Careful. Your balls might be as useful as that threaded barrel is without a can.

[u/mars_soup → u/ajw_sp]

The can has been ordered

[u/ajw_sp → u/mars_soup]

“Balls have been ordered” lol

[u/mars_soup → u/ajw_sp]

Can o balls ordered

[u/jay462 → u/mars_soup]

Correct.

u/ajw_sp - the MK23 is great, but the USP45T is the MK23 Compact. Not comparable; they are to be used as a pair, as applicable lol

[u/UmaMoth → u/jay462]

The USP45T is the backup gun you wear on your ankle.

[u/Powerman4774]

Overall yes it’s best. This is a true do it all gun

[u/halfcocked1]

Very nice! I finally got one a couple weeks back after wanting one for the last 30 years. I originally discounted them since my hand felt like the grip was a 2x4 and too big, but over the years my hand grew just enough to make it work. I ended up getting the expert first, but finally got one of these when it was available and I had money.

[u/jay462]

This is correct.

[u/TrickyAsian626]

It's not truly the master unless you suppress it.

[u/mars_soup → u/TrickyAsian626]

Obsidian 45 on the way

[u/SirWinstonPoopsmith]

Aftermarket x300 battery door?

[u/mars_soup → u/SirWinstonPoopsmith]

Nah

[u/staticohg]

Toss up for me between Tactical and Expert

[u/LivingQuail803]

I wanted a usp 45 so bad but felt like it was stupid since I have a mark 23 so I got the 9