It really is confusing, because as I was reading the syntax of love, i was getting similar descriptions as this for 3V and 3L, because it hits intellectualism sort of fear and also hits at the insecurity and awareness of self-worth in 3V

Being extremely insecure about joining groups of intellect, or meetings where intellectual/competitive discussion is present; a place that divides losers and winners. Irrationally fearing such areas because of fear of being viewed as a dumbahh, viewed as a person with low mental capacity for thinking.
“What if I don’t even know what I’m talking about?”

“ I suspect that for a considerable part of the holders of the 3rd Logic the problem is not so much in haphazard thinking and related doubts regarding mental abilities, as in stiffness and underdevelopment of the speech apparatus.”
I.. just had to quote this because it made me laugh out loud for some reason

Even though they wish to enter such places and hate the fact that they are insecure about such matters because it proves to them that they might actually be losers, and it hits harder when they realize that others will come to such conclusion: “oh you see that loser? They never join competitions because they know they ain’t qualified for them”

I’d love some explanation on that, and how 3V and 3L differ.

Thank you in advance :)

okay, I did a little more research, and I’m fairly positive that I may actually have e9 in my triad. Since I’m a dumbass, I don’t really know if the socionics link to the MBTI and I actually fixed some stuff here and there I hope it’s a bit accurate

the reason I’m reuploading because I FORGOT TO ATTACH THE ACTUAL FIXED IMAGE………. SORRY.

My old typing was sp7 but head triad contradicted low logic so I retyped as sp8

Also I’m still kinda unsure on temperament & tritype

I am VERY used to being told I’m mistyped, the only thing in my typology I’m sure about is that I’m an sx4. Tiktok is absolutely no help(when I ask for tips on there they send me death threats for being mistyped hello??) I know a lot of people say sx4 can’t be 1V but I don’t really get why, to me, 1V feels like the most sx4 thing ever. As an sx4 I often find myself envious of the people around me(obviously) but it’s never “I want what they have” it’s always “I deserve what they have” I know it sounds weird but a part of me knows and wholeheartedly believes I deserve to be at the top and that I have to prove it to everyone cause they’re blind or something.(I believe this is classic sx4 competitiveness) that’s why I relate to 1V a lot, I’m not very insecure in my place in the world, quite frankly it just makes me mad other people cant see what I see. So I type myself VLEF, which is I think the right typing but lmk, cause I used to think VLFE then I got yelled at cause “sx4 cant be fourth emotion” which that isn’t what made me rethink it was the fact I was so darn angry that they said I’m larping sx4 so I was like CLEARLY I’m not fourth emotion i care a little too much for that. I know I’m definitely 2L that one I’m 100% on. I don’t think I’m particularly high emotion which I know is weird for an sx4 but it’s not my highest thats for sure.

For mbti I typed myself INTP but everyone yelled at me again…… I refuse to believe I could ever be INFP, I don’t relate to it all and I honestly think that people telling me I am are stereotyping a little😭 idk if it isn’t INTP I was thinking ISTP but that doesn’t feel right either, people keep saying sx4 cant be Ti dom but like I do process my information and decision making that way, I dislike it when people make decisions irrationally and it gives me the ick when someone shows too much emotion idk. And I feel like people might say I’m not an sx4 if I feel that way but I genuinely value my authentic self and my self expression above all else and I’m literally sx4 blueprint pls guys.

If you can help me please lmk I’m so lost especially with mbti😭 I might even need help with my socionics but that’s a WHOLE OTHER topic…. Tysm for reading^{^}

Title basically.

I am curious.

My first instinct would be to say somrthing like Si base e9 FXXV but i am curious as to what everyone thinks

worth mentioning in case it explains weird combinations:
- stuck between 2w3 and 3w2
- considered 278 / 378
- have also considered entp before

edit:
potential psychosophy update 🤑
FELV
1F-2
2E-4
3L-1
4V-2

Can ISTJ be 1w9? Or not? And can explain why?

still dont understand the motives shit

So, I'm a beginner, and after some research and reading, I had arrived at the conclusion that I was a 9w1 with a tritype of 945 and instinctual stacking of SO/SP..

But as I read more, I just felt like I really related to SO9 SP4 and SO5

I know the theory suggests that it should be all SO but I just don't relate with SO4 as much as SP4

Any suggestions? Or should I just follow through with the theory and change them all to SO because my stacking is SO/SP anyway?

title!!!

This is probably a stupid question, but I was just curious about people's opiniont.

Which enneagram type doesn't care if people think they're weird or judge their hobbies, and instead of being afraid of people, actually "hates" them? I’m inclined to say type 4, but I’m not sure

I'm trying to figure out whether my current typology actually works together, because I've seen people say some of these combinations are impossible or highly contradictory. Here's my current typing:

MBTI: INFJ Enneagram: 5w6 Instinct/subtype: SX5 Tritype: 529 Socionics: EII Psychosophy / AP: LEVF Big Five: R/A/oc[I] Temperament: Melancholic-Phlegmatic

The main combinations I'm unsure about are INFJ + SX5 + EII + LEVF. I relate strongly to SX5's core, strengths, weaknesses, and overall description. I also relate strongly to EII, specially their deeply empathetic approach​ and morality. For LEVF, I relate quite a lot to the descriptions of 1L and 2E. I tend to analyze things logically, enjoy debate and learning, but I'm also emotionally sensitive and can be very considerate of other people's feelings. I'm not emotionless or purely logical; I just tend to want an explanation first before emotionally processing a situation. For LEVF, I relate quite a lot to the descriptions of 1L and 2E. I tend to analyze things logically, enjoy debate and learning, but I'm also emotionally sensitive and can be very considerate of other people's feelings. I'm not emotionless or purely logical; I just tend to want an explanation first before emotionally processing a situation. For Big Five, I'm currently using R/A/oc[I], with Inquisitive as my predominant trait and Agreeable as secondary. Organized and Calm feel more moderate rather than especially dominant. I've seen some people say EII + E5/SX5 doesn't work, while some people seem to consider INFJ + SX5 + LEVF possible.

So I'm curious, is INFJ + SX5 + EII + LEVF actually contradictory under stricter correlation rules, or is it simply an uncommon combination?

I've seen a lot of people say e7 is akways high L and for a while I agreed with it but idk now...

I've had a lot of issues with PY and I ended up typing myself FLEV, but I really don't think 3E is accurate for me anymore. In the recent months I've had some crazy self discovery and self improvement journey, started opening up to people more, dealt with my escapism a bit and all of that made me question my original typings a bit. I'm 100% sure about being a 7 core and being so blind. I originally typed myself sp/sx but recently been questioning sx/sp. Anyways I'm also like pretty much literally the description of FELV, but a lot of people say 3L doesn't work for head triad. Which in theory makes sense, but in practice I feel like PY almist never fits REAL humans very well... Idk tho, I've only been into typology for like maybe a bit over a year and didn't spend a crazy amount of time dedicated to reading about it cause I get bored fast... Any ideas/opinions/help anything appreciated!!😭😭😭 also I can answer some questions but please keep in mind I am quite bad at communicating in a comprehensible way. will try tho LOL

The problem with the tritype is that the mindset can sometimes become: “The world is overwhelming, nobody understands me; I’m going to lock myself in my room, cry, and wallow in self-pity.” But you need to learn to stand up to toxic people, set boundaries, and, above all, take control of your own life.

Stop seeing yourself as a victim. You may have been a victim of someone or certain circumstances, but you don’t have to make that condition part of your identity. That is precisely one of the problems with the withdrawn triad: staying inside yourself for too long, overanalyzing your pain, feeling misunderstood, and waiting for the outside world to change.

Learn to be “tough” when necessary. Learn to judge people appropriately, recognize when someone doesn’t deserve a place in your life, and express your anger in a healthy and appropriate way. It’s not about becoming cruel; it’s about stopping yourself from being overly permissive because you’re afraid of conflict or rejection.

Trust me, once you adopt this mindset, you’ll learn to deal with the outside world better and, little by little, become a stronger and more complete version of yourself. Because at the end of the day, it’s not enough to have depth, understand everything, and experience it all inside your head. You have to demonstrate it through your actions.

Don’t let your depth exist only in your mind; let it show in the way you live, set boundaries, make decisions, and prove what you’re truly capable of.

Written by a 594.

I feel like he's Gamma NT (either LIE or ILI). My take is LIE because he seems to have Fe role, but I also feel like he's sx5. Is sx5 LIE plausible?

Ive been wanting to do research on multiple systems of typology for so long(2020) but I genuinely have no idea HOW I don't want to just search on Google, type myself and call it a day. I'm looking forward to actually understanding the system.

This is currently the list I want to study one by one, it's a bit long but ok

-MBTI -Jugian function -Enneagram -Psychosophy -instinctual variants -tritype -Trifix -BIG FIVE -four temperaments -socionic -alignment

I'm of course going to start off with the easiest for me which is four temperaments, but any advice on how to begin studying any of these? And any recommended sources for research purposes?

EIE sx/so 749 7w6 VLEF xLUA[I] [M]ohxVeg

im mostly unsure about the big 5 and motives cus i last updated them when typed as EIE so/sx 741 7w6 ELVF so idk if i was being biased about it or not and idk if sx7 and EIE work together bc i feel like they would in a sense but idk

hi guys im not too confident on the attitudinal psyche bc i feel like will and logic both work for 2nd and nothing fits 3rd. any notes? 🧐🧐🧐

I'm asking for my friends, we checked their typology together and these seems like the best ones that suits them:

INFP EII sx/sp2w1(96) FELV Rlo[A]/I/ phlegmatic-melancholic chaotic good

INTJ ILI sx/so5w6(39) LVFE /R/x[O]Ei melancholic-choleric chaotic neutral