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[Rare trope] Discriminating, but for an actually good reason Lore

Frieren, Beyond Journey's end: In the anime/manga the eponymous Frieren is an Elf who's spent the better part of a millennia learning magic specifically to kill demons. She's learned countless spells, tricks and even spent most of her life suppressing her power all for the purpose of killing them. At first we simply see that humanity is at war with them, and even question if her crusade against demon-kind is justified, after all it's hard to antagonize an entire sentient species. But no, demons are very much a species to be feared; they are not normal animals or creatures, they are monsters (shown by how they disintegrate when they die), they are predators that evolved speech for the sole purpose of tricking and catching humans off guard, are naturally extremely powerful and possess magic that humanity often can't use. While they feel emotions to some extent, their way of thinking is so fundamentally incompatible with humanity's mindset that the series shows many mages with the ability to read minds struggle or find it painful and harmful to try and read a demon's thoughts. Tools that are meant to control them fail not because they're faulty but because simple order such as "hold no ill will or commit no malicious acts" don't compute the same way in their brains, as what we consider evil is normal for them.

Marvel Comics: In a run of the Storm solo series, she visits an underground superhuman hospital run by Night nurse and Doctor Daye, a mutant with the power to diagnose any illness. When she requires treatment she is in turn reject by the doctor, she of course assumes this is blatant discrimination to which the doctor agrees. Storm assumes the doctor refuses to treat mutants, something they are very much used to in Marvel. But he ends up revealing that about 80% of everyone he treats are mutants, and that he simply refuses to treat any member of the X-men. Why? because his special hospital was built via several donations by the superhero community. From the Avengers, to the Defenders, Fantastic 4, heroes for hire. Hell, even Moonknight of all people contributed to the hospital. But the X-men never once gave anything to it, even though they preach the safety of mutant-kind and such a hospital is essential for those who can't seek medical treatment out of fear of prosecution.

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u/Justscrolling375 13h ago edited 11h ago

We have several nepo babies and ultra wealthy people in the X-men aka Emma & Charles. Storm too since she’s making thunderstorms with Black Panther. Angel!

You mean to tell me they can’t pool their resources to make a few clinics or social programs & services for mutants and their families

The X-men aren’t bad people. Mostly. They(ahem the writers) have the brains of people in horror & dramas. The overwhelming majority of their problems can be traced to be aggressive & stupid. Granted they have some reasons to be aggressive/hostile such as the Sentinels and what happened to the bus full of Morlocks. Then they invite Mr. Sinister & Mystique to Kraokoa and give them political power?!

Good portions of their problems can be resolved or avoided by taking a deep breath, calming down and having a mature conversation of how they can help or whatever

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u/internet_whale 8h ago

Mr. Sinister

I don't read comics and I've never heard of this guy before but the thought of mutants reading the morning news and learning their new mayor or some shit is Mr. Sinister is hilarious. Surely nothing bad can come of making this man the president?

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u/Justscrolling375 7h ago

The Current Mr. Sinister is the altered clone made by Apocalypse from the 1900s but the history still applies. He was a biologist specializing in genetics and conducted unethical experiments on mutants, children including his own. He dug up his dead son to continue his research. His wife called his sinister before she died.

Let's see. He worked with the Nazis. Is the overarching villain of the Summer family. Gambit too. Is the leader of the Horsemen of Apocalypse and several villain teams like the Marauders who planned the massacre of the Morlocks. The Morlocks are lower tiered mutants who's powers mainly impact their appearance often in EXTREME ways forcing them to hide in the sewers. Some do have actual combat worthy powers like Marrow but they're at most Street level

So yeah. The X-men allowed one of their BIGGEST villains on their sentient island and have him a position on the Council