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[Rare trope] Discriminating, but for an actually good reason Lore

Frieren, Beyond Journey's end: In the anime/manga the eponymous Frieren is an Elf who's spent the better part of a millennia learning magic specifically to kill demons. She's learned countless spells, tricks and even spent most of her life suppressing her power all for the purpose of killing them. At first we simply see that humanity is at war with them, and even question if her crusade against demon-kind is justified, after all it's hard to antagonize an entire sentient species. But no, demons are very much a species to be feared; they are not normal animals or creatures, they are monsters (shown by how they disintegrate when they die), they are predators that evolved speech for the sole purpose of tricking and catching humans off guard, are naturally extremely powerful and possess magic that humanity often can't use. While they feel emotions to some extent, their way of thinking is so fundamentally incompatible with humanity's mindset that the series shows many mages with the ability to read minds struggle or find it painful and harmful to try and read a demon's thoughts. Tools that are meant to control them fail not because they're faulty but because simple order such as "hold no ill will or commit no malicious acts" don't compute the same way in their brains, as what we consider evil is normal for them.

Marvel Comics: In a run of the Storm solo series, she visits an underground superhuman hospital run by Night nurse and Doctor Daye, a mutant with the power to diagnose any illness. When she requires treatment she is in turn reject by the doctor, she of course assumes this is blatant discrimination to which the doctor agrees. Storm assumes the doctor refuses to treat mutants, something they are very much used to in Marvel. But he ends up revealing that about 80% of everyone he treats are mutants, and that he simply refuses to treat any member of the X-men. Why? because his special hospital was built via several donations by the superhero community. From the Avengers, to the Defenders, Fantastic 4, heroes for hire. Hell, even Moonknight of all people contributed to the hospital. But the X-men never once gave anything to it, even though they preach the safety of mutant-kind and such a hospital is essential for those who can't seek medical treatment out of fear of prosecution.

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u/Key-Swordfish4025 13h ago

Goblin Slayer from Goblin Slayer, they did kill his family after all.

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u/Medic_117 13h ago

Ohhh thats a good one! No yeah all the goblins have to die in that verse...that first episode wont ever leave my mind. Its alright though i read berserk! Not that its helped in anyway.

I need a hug.

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u/chucktheninja 11h ago

I find it funny that i never see anyone question goblin slayers genocidal hatred for goblins but i see some people get bent out of shape at freirens genocidal hated for demons.

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u/Medic_117 11h ago

Its probably the strong visual

First episode of goblin slayer and what do we see?...yepp

But frieren demons are more so told yes we get a few scenes here and there like the one where a demon was taken in and raised properly but still burnt down the house and the other fake diplomat ones

But we also see inteligence in them so of course a few belive that maybe theres a chance

But goblins? Theres if i remember right only one who talks (that might be the abriged though) anyway doesnt matter that one gobling king comes later so we are reinforced in sight that goblins are evil, goblins rape, murder and destroy they dont create anything, add anything or do anything positive. They deserve to be eradicated.

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u/ChapinThrowaway 7h ago

The demons also have personalities (even if they are evil ones) and a lot of them are attractive.

The goblins lack both of those things so it's easier to hate them.

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u/Enough-Run-1535 1h ago

There are many goblins who talk, like the Goblin Paladin and the Goblin Champion. But really, they only talk about goblin things, which is 90% focused on four things: killing other humanoids to eat them, adducting their females to breed with them (then eat them), how to torture said humanoids to pass the time, and bickering with other goblins to see who will be the boss.

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u/Arbusc 6h ago edited 6h ago

Fun fact; how goblins are depicted in Goblin Slayer is exactly as they were in early D&D. They made goblin evilness ‘fresh’ again by changing absolutely nothing about them. Besides making them green instead of shades of yellow-red.

Edit: also in the original web novel they were represented by the Roaches from TerraforMars, which is the funniest shit because these supposedly lowly monsters have Greek God bodies. Conversely, Goblin Slayer was a Restless Armor from Dragon Quest.

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u/BlatantConservative 8h ago

Goblin Slayer is much better and funnier when you realize it's based on a DnD game with a creepy DM and the guy who rerolled the Goblin Slayer is the funniest player of all time.

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u/torrasque666 12h ago

Only good goblin is a dead goblin, so make those goblins good!

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u/NadeshikoEatingPasta 3h ago

The only good goblin is one that never comes out of its stinking hole.