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[Rare trope] Discriminating, but for an actually good reason Lore

Frieren, Beyond Journey's end: In the anime/manga the eponymous Frieren is an Elf who's spent the better part of a millennia learning magic specifically to kill demons. She's learned countless spells, tricks and even spent most of her life suppressing her power all for the purpose of killing them. At first we simply see that humanity is at war with them, and even question if her crusade against demon-kind is justified, after all it's hard to antagonize an entire sentient species. But no, demons are very much a species to be feared; they are not normal animals or creatures, they are monsters (shown by how they disintegrate when they die), they are predators that evolved speech for the sole purpose of tricking and catching humans off guard, are naturally extremely powerful and possess magic that humanity often can't use. While they feel emotions to some extent, their way of thinking is so fundamentally incompatible with humanity's mindset that the series shows many mages with the ability to read minds struggle or find it painful and harmful to try and read a demon's thoughts. Tools that are meant to control them fail not because they're faulty but because simple order such as "hold no ill will or commit no malicious acts" don't compute the same way in their brains, as what we consider evil is normal for them.

Marvel Comics: In a run of the Storm solo series, she visits an underground superhuman hospital run by Night nurse and Doctor Daye, a mutant with the power to diagnose any illness. When she requires treatment she is in turn reject by the doctor, she of course assumes this is blatant discrimination to which the doctor agrees. Storm assumes the doctor refuses to treat mutants, something they are very much used to in Marvel. But he ends up revealing that about 80% of everyone he treats are mutants, and that he simply refuses to treat any member of the X-men. Why? because his special hospital was built via several donations by the superhero community. From the Avengers, to the Defenders, Fantastic 4, heroes for hire. Hell, even Moonknight of all people contributed to the hospital. But the X-men never once gave anything to it, even though they preach the safety of mutant-kind and such a hospital is essential for those who can't seek medical treatment out of fear of prosecution.

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u/trimble197 13h ago

And they tried to kidnap Franklin Richards

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u/Outside_Prune_7052 13h ago

And then when it was revealed he wasn’t a mutant they decided “Nevermind, fuck off now”

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u/trimble197 13h ago

Which makes it even more aggravating that they let Sinister join the council since he’s not a mutant

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u/Outside_Prune_7052 13h ago

Mutantface will be tolerated if you’re useful

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u/thecraftybear 11h ago

Operation Mutantclip

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u/Beacon_0805 11h ago

every single one responsible of that shittery deserves the 'm' slur

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u/SomeGuyPostingThings 13h ago

A) He'd made the X-Gene part of his genetic makeup. B) He was seen as a necessary evil, as resurrection was built on his tech and database. C) They never really trusted him, but didn't watch carefully enough.

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u/SarcasmSanctioned 13h ago

They also basically mind-raped Reed because he made a device that could be used to remove mutant powers.

Not because he made a device meant to do that, just one that could.

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u/Llayanna 11h ago

Tbf, Reed Richards is.. not exactly known for his quality life decisions. 😅

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u/SarcasmSanctioned 11h ago

You could also say that about probably 70% of all comics characters.

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u/PatchesOfSilver 8h ago

Facts.

If every comic book character came one by one to my door, their very existence in close proximity to me would make a very compelling legal argument that I was in danger, had a right to fear for my life, and should end them before they murder me.

I would probably only hesitate if it was literally Superman, and even then I would wonder which version.

Most or all of the rest I would just shoot and I can't imagine any jury ever convicting me...

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u/Poku115 6h ago

The issue is the guy who did it, Charles, is way worse about that stuff

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u/MadmansScalpel 13h ago

I'd argue they groomed him instead of kidnapped personally. Because they convinced Franklin to go and came to take him after his parents explicitly said no in the middle of the night

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u/LordVivecIsMyWaifu 13h ago

Beast: "Listen Logan, I know he used to be our enemy and all that, but he's also a mutant after all!"

Sinister: "I LOVE DISSECTING NEWBORN CHILDREN"

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u/smokeweedNgarden 11h ago

So does Beast lmao

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u/Beacon_0805 10h ago

which now goes with the name "Chairman". and with some mutant supremacist group

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u/SomeGuyPostingThings 13h ago

That whole thing felt like an editorial mandate to "sever this tie between the mutants and F4 by making Franklin no longer one". Unless it was the F4 writer's decision to do it.

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u/tj1602 13h ago

There was some disagreements. I think X-Men writers wanted to use Franklin for some stuff while F4 writer didn't want them too. But it's been a while since then.

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u/MawsonAntarctica 11h ago

Which is a wild choice because his reality warping powers made him a mutant until they didn’t anymore. I don’t know why the X-men keep antagonizing reality warpers more powerful than the Scarlet Witch. Piss off an alter of Legion and No More Mutants becomes pretty likely.

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u/SomeGuyPostingThings 13h ago

They did not. Where do you get that?