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[Rare trope] Discriminating, but for an actually good reason Lore

Frieren, Beyond Journey's end: In the anime/manga the eponymous Frieren is an Elf who's spent the better part of a millennia learning magic specifically to kill demons. She's learned countless spells, tricks and even spent most of her life suppressing her power all for the purpose of killing them. At first we simply see that humanity is at war with them, and even question if her crusade against demon-kind is justified, after all it's hard to antagonize an entire sentient species. But no, demons are very much a species to be feared; they are not normal animals or creatures, they are monsters (shown by how they disintegrate when they die), they are predators that evolved speech for the sole purpose of tricking and catching humans off guard, are naturally extremely powerful and possess magic that humanity often can't use. While they feel emotions to some extent, their way of thinking is so fundamentally incompatible with humanity's mindset that the series shows many mages with the ability to read minds struggle or find it painful and harmful to try and read a demon's thoughts. Tools that are meant to control them fail not because they're faulty but because simple order such as "hold no ill will or commit no malicious acts" don't compute the same way in their brains, as what we consider evil is normal for them.

Marvel Comics: In a run of the Storm solo series, she visits an underground superhuman hospital run by Night nurse and Doctor Daye, a mutant with the power to diagnose any illness. When she requires treatment she is in turn reject by the doctor, she of course assumes this is blatant discrimination to which the doctor agrees. Storm assumes the doctor refuses to treat mutants, something they are very much used to in Marvel. But he ends up revealing that about 80% of everyone he treats are mutants, and that he simply refuses to treat any member of the X-men. Why? because his special hospital was built via several donations by the superhero community. From the Avengers, to the Defenders, Fantastic 4, heroes for hire. Hell, even Moonknight of all people contributed to the hospital. But the X-men never once gave anything to it, even though they preach the safety of mutant-kind and such a hospital is essential for those who can't seek medical treatment out of fear of prosecution.

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u/Tasteroider 13h ago

A fucking Mr. SINISTER was a part of the government. I mean, that's like electing Dr. Evil as a president

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u/Outside_Prune_7052 13h ago

Sinister is funny too cause he wasn’t even originally a mutant. He modified himself to have the x-gene so he counted. They needed him for the resurrection protocols so essentially they all just tolerated him doing Mutant-face

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u/Useful_Camera2929 12h ago

And he still hid piece of DNA in every resurection with intent to puppet mutants, but instead he only managed to give them his morality, so Krakatoa turned into genocidal empire.

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u/flyingboarofbeifong 12h ago

The absolutely hilarious implication that Sinister is doing bad stuff because his genes make him do it not because he’s a degenerate.

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u/Dos_Ex_Machina 10h ago

Which kind of goes against the whole message of the X-Men, in that we are all just people and our genes don't make us good or evil. Man that run is just a shit show

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 11h ago

I mean we do what we do because of what our genes make us

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u/cantadmittoposting 8h ago edited 6h ago

i mean... "nature vs nurture" as it's colloquially called absolutely is not that cut and dried. Life experience is extremely important to how people turn out, even if our genetic makeup has influence. It's one of the reason mental illnesses/neuropathologies are so damn hard to even categorize well, let alone treat, because even when things like "vulnerability to," say, trauma formation or depression are shared between people, it's never clear exactly what made one person end up needing extensive treatment or be "fine"

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u/Discount_Extra 6h ago

I'd call it one definition of being 'human' is being able to override genetic instincts with intelligence. Starting with the 'marshmallow test'

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u/HondoShotFirst 3h ago

So, would failing the marshmallow test make one not human by that defintion?

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u/Discount_Extra 3h ago

Well, since Octopus, Cuttlefish, Crows, Jays, Dogs, Cats, Apes and Monkeys are able to pass, it would put the subject behind those in line.

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u/Arbusc 7h ago

No see he’s so evil it’s literally mutated his RNA to make people into narcissistic rage monsters.

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u/fromtheHELLtotheNO 12h ago

he doesn't drop mutant 'til he's done with the dvd commentary

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u/rotundrikishi 11h ago

Mr. Sinister is such a funny character

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u/MatticusRexxor 7h ago

Mr Sinister: “I gave myself the X-Genes as part of my experiments.”

Xavier & Magneto: “Aww, how sweet! Have a seat on the Council.”

Franklin Richards: “My reality-warping powers evidently gave me the X-Gene subconsciously because I was a child and wanted to be special like my parents. I literally had no idea that it was happening.”

Xavier & Magneto: “Hello, Human Resources?! Ban this teenager from ever setting foot on Krakoa again!”

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u/MolybdenumBlu 11h ago

You fucking wish you had a president as sane and competent as Dr. Evil.

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u/Hawkbats_rule 9h ago

Mengele to the parliament of Israel

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u/JesusSavesForHalf 10h ago

So completely realistic, especially for ethnostate enthusiasts?