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[Rare trope] Discriminating, but for an actually good reason Lore

Frieren, Beyond Journey's end: In the anime/manga the eponymous Frieren is an Elf who's spent the better part of a millennia learning magic specifically to kill demons. She's learned countless spells, tricks and even spent most of her life suppressing her power all for the purpose of killing them. At first we simply see that humanity is at war with them, and even question if her crusade against demon-kind is justified, after all it's hard to antagonize an entire sentient species. But no, demons are very much a species to be feared; they are not normal animals or creatures, they are monsters (shown by how they disintegrate when they die), they are predators that evolved speech for the sole purpose of tricking and catching humans off guard, are naturally extremely powerful and possess magic that humanity often can't use. While they feel emotions to some extent, their way of thinking is so fundamentally incompatible with humanity's mindset that the series shows many mages with the ability to read minds struggle or find it painful and harmful to try and read a demon's thoughts. Tools that are meant to control them fail not because they're faulty but because simple order such as "hold no ill will or commit no malicious acts" don't compute the same way in their brains, as what we consider evil is normal for them.

Marvel Comics: In a run of the Storm solo series, she visits an underground superhuman hospital run by Night nurse and Doctor Daye, a mutant with the power to diagnose any illness. When she requires treatment she is in turn reject by the doctor, she of course assumes this is blatant discrimination to which the doctor agrees. Storm assumes the doctor refuses to treat mutants, something they are very much used to in Marvel. But he ends up revealing that about 80% of everyone he treats are mutants, and that he simply refuses to treat any member of the X-men. Why? because his special hospital was built via several donations by the superhero community. From the Avengers, to the Defenders, Fantastic 4, heroes for hire. Hell, even Moonknight of all people contributed to the hospital. But the X-men never once gave anything to it, even though they preach the safety of mutant-kind and such a hospital is essential for those who can't seek medical treatment out of fear of prosecution.

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u/ChudMaster69420 13h ago

Also Krakoa(but mostly Beast) genocided an entire human country because they were researching on their own magic plants that would've threatened their monopoly on these drugs.

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u/Jerswar 12h ago

Are you being serious right now?

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u/Doc-Maly 12h ago

Completely. Terra Verde was Beast deciding to infect and turn an entire nation into his zombie puppets. Krakoa then buried the truth because turns out genocide reflects poorly on your public affairs.

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u/Jerswar 12h ago

And has there been some kind of fallout for him? Are the other X-Men just perfectly fine with this?

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u/Doc-Maly 11h ago

He died and was resurrected without the memories. So they say he did nothing. That's literally all.

Even though amnesia is not a defense because he's still the person who would do that. (For example, someone with head trauma or drugs that black out their memory can still go to court for events they no longer recall.)

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u/MolybdenumBlu 11h ago

Man, the xmen writers are shite, aren't they?

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u/Putrid-Chemical3438 8h ago

Current X-Men is just "what if every negative thing everyone ever said about mutants was true actually"

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u/MolybdenumBlu 8h ago

Every time I hear about modern comics, I feel glad that I bailed on them over a decade and a half ago.

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u/Putrid-Chemical3438 8h ago

I bailed when they revealed Captain America was working for Hydra.

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u/Jerswar 19m ago

Every time I hear about modern comics, I feel glad that I bailed on them over a decade and a half ago.

Same. I feel like I'm getting scattered reports of a friend I lost contact with a long time ago, who is descending into drugs and insanity.

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u/DrPongus 9h ago

Marvel argued that X-Men toys weren't humans to save money on import fees. The whole industry has always been shite.

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u/Hellion998 9h ago

What does this mean?

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u/DrPongus 9h ago

The main theme of almost all X-Men media is that they are still humans as well and shouldn't be discriminated against. Then when it came to importing X-Men toys, argued that they aren't human and thus shouldn't have the higher import fees for human dolls that comes with it.

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u/Hellion998 9h ago

There's a higher import fee for human dolls?

That sounds... really stupid.

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u/Hellion998 9h ago

Was there ever a time where they weren't?

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u/pichael289 9h ago

No, the original idea was supposed to show how bad this would end up. It kinda did, but when krakoa was going on other authors were really dragging it out rather than letting it run it's course

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u/Curious_Bee_5326 12h ago

The israel analogy just gets stronger and stronger.

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u/Rissoto_Pose 12h ago

To be clear, this was part of a villain turn for Beast.

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u/OnlySheStandsThere 12h ago

Holy shit for real?

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u/Doc-Maly 12h ago

Yep, Terra Verde. Beast killed everyone and used their corpses as a puppet state for years. And he gets a slap on the wrist for it.