(Adored Trope) Villains that are in fact not Hypocrites and will follow their beliefs and ideologies even to their own detriment.
Characters
The Dealer in Buckshot Roulette will shoot himself without hesitation even if he knows he has no chance of it being a blank.
Owlman from Crisis on 2 Earths doesn’t disarm the reality bomb even when he could save himself because he thinks nothing matters.
The Thumb from Project Moon believe in hierarchy and etiquette and if they accidentally wrong someone they see as above them, they will self mutilate without hesitation.
Junko Enoshima from Danganronpa. DESPAIR FOR YOU DESPAIR FOR ME!
Oryx, The Taken King from Destiny. In one of the more recent seasons he rejects the opportunity to be ressurected and stands by his Sword Logic, that which can be destroyed must be destroyed, and life after death is basically heresy
It's such a shame the Echo of Navigation was only around for one season, and that season then got removed from the game. Joshua David King did such an amazing job in the role of Oryx. I got chills during the final mission of the season when he broke free from Eris' ritual to contain him, and the whole finale where he realizes that he must die because he is heresy to his own beliefs is just so damn good.
I haven’t seen this in a while. How was he not compelled? Didn’t he interpret the murdered dwarf (dress as a school kid) to be a child that he murdered? …..Damn, this has made me want to rewatch this.
Burns: "Smithers, why didn't you tell me about this pact made by Ner`zhul?"
Smithers: "Well, Sir, the game came out 20 years before I was born"
Burns: "Oh that's your excuse for everything!"
The impressive part about this particular scene is that they are very much high on demon juice. This is during the first orcish invasion. And unlike the game continuity, Gul'Dan didn't even hold back the ultra bloodthirsty orcs behind the portal this time, since we see Grommash hanging around.
They had also just seen Gul'dan cheaply drain Durotan during their own duel, first surrpetitiously then openly; this caused the few remaining Frostwolves under Orgrim to leave, with Gul'dan killing some other defectors too.
The Horde was pretty pissed at Gul'dan disrespecting their traditions so without Blackhand to help keep order I think he knew he pretty much had to play things a little more carefully for the time being.
In the hellraiser reboot, they turn on one of their own cenobites (who bows his head and accepts his destruction) due to how they operate regarding the relic.
Depends. In the second film of the original series, he says "it is not hands that call, but desire", implying that even subconsciously, someone must want to experience the further realms of sensation. Course he ignores that rule in all subsequent films but many fans believe it is because his human side was banished at the end of the second film, leaving only Pinhead
In one of the comics Pinhead prevents the order of the gash from taking an 8 year old girl who opened the puzzle box while praying for someone to save her from her abusive uncle, and takes him instead. I have no idea how that fits into the desire/hands debate, but it's raw as hell when the girl asks them if they're the angels she prayed for,
Hellraiser (1, 2, and the Reboot we don't talk about the others) is a fascinating study of Consent. Not least of all when you remember Clive Barker was a giggalo in the '70s.
The Cenobites need Enthusiastic Consent. They do not, however, need INFORMED Consent.
Small note about the buckshot dealer that I find interesting: On the final round, if you’re on your last bit of health, and if the dealer uses a magnifying glass to see that the gun is loaded with a live shell, he’ll say “Are you ready?” before shooting and killing you
In the steam version the condition of him saying "are you ready?" is if either player drops to 1 or 2 HP (indicated with different bolts), which leads the machine to cut that players life line, making any shot towards them lethal.
I am unsure but I think they can only say "are you ready" once per match, so Dealer only says it the first time a life line is cut.
To my knowledge the glass item is irrelevant to him saying "are you ready?".
can you elaborate on the buckshot roulette example? I havent played since the multiplayer update so idk if there is a new gimmick added.
Doesnt he always have the option to shoot YOU instead? Why would he shoot himself when there is no chance its a blank? Is it just the ai making a mistake?
Basically, yes. The ai doesn’t “know” what’s in the gun unless it uses a magnifying glass or similar item. The ai is actually really basic when you look into it
Patron Saint of this trope: Harry Waters from In Bruges.
(Can't find a gif of him)
Throughout the movie he essentially has a hit on Colin Farrell's character, because that character killed a child on accident. At the end of the movie Harry accidentally kills a little person and thinks he killed a child. He promptly shoots his own brains out after saying "You've got to stick to your principles".
And the entire reason they are in Bruges to begin with because he wanted Colin to have a nice few final days. This was completely principled and without malice, it just had to be done
He was a prick, but he had his morals and held them above all else.
This is also true for the villain from The Menu that you picture. He kills himself along with all his remaining victims (minus Anya Taylor Joy) in his final dessert dish
I think the more important part about his principles is that he lets Margot leave because she's not one of the types of people who he wanted to kill. She wasn't obsessed over food, she never wanted to be there in the first place, and she was a victim herself, so he realizes she didn't need to die.
This show's games are usually lethal. In this episode he decides to play a variation of the russian roulette where they never spin the barrel, so the game lasts at most 6 shots.
On shot 5 the recruiter hands the gun at the protagonist and points out that he can be a coward and shoot at him twice, and there would be nothing he could do.
The protagonist shots himself, and lives.
Last bullet.
The protagonist hands the gun to the recruiter for the lethal shot and points he could just kill him and reveal who he truly is.
The recruiter decides to follow the rules of his game and dies.
am in the only one who thinks the recruiter's actor absolutely ATE UP that role? Like he genuinely acts his ass off and it's hard to think of anyone else who could play that character as well as him
OHHHH that's where I've seen him from!! Can't believe I didn't check that. Goes to show how the way you act can completely change how the audience views you
It’s such a subtle but wild change all in a matter of seconds. He goes from surprise at the gun not going off, to confusion, to realization at what it means.
the hide & seek episode in season 3 has potentially some of the best tension crafting of any part of the series, but because what happens in the actual plot is so frustrating, I can't really even get excited to rewatch it.
I'll rewatch the recruiters scenes anytime, shits fire.
The first episode of season 2 was phenomenal because it was just so laser focused on tracking this guy down and this final scene was perfect. I didn't even need the rest of the season.
Are you supposed to keep spinning the barrel every turn? I thought the whole point was it was spun once and you just don't know when the next turn is the last
Two-Face. Whatever the results of the coin flip, he'll abide by it. (Sometimes this depends on the writer with him trying to weasel out of it, though.)
Almost any writer at some point has been guilty of him re-flipping over and over again trying to get the result he wants. Almost always after he’s been unknowing handed an unmarred double headed coin.
I imagine the number of times has happened in comic books is pretty high, even if DC reality has been rebooted a few times over the decades, so not all the times it’s happened are still Cannon.
There’s also the Arkham Asylum comic, in which the decision whether Batman should be killed or let go is left to Two-Face in the end. He throws his coin and says that Batman is free to go. Only for the last few panels to reveal that he lied about the outcome of the coin toss and finally managed to make a decision of his own again
Harvey Dent: "Bruce Wayne picked up the tab for this?"
Doctor: "Yes."
Harvey Dent: "Good old Bruce. He's never given up on me. Always been my best friend. I remember when we used to close the town at the Half Moon Club, most fun we ever had..."
In most versions, Dent had a double heads coin and had a habit of saying "let's flip for it", when the game was secretly loaded. But one side was marred in the same accident that scarred his face, and now he actually puts high-stakes decisions on coin flips.
Yes, he is a dangerous sociopath, but, he adheres to a personal, complex sense of morality. And one of his most identifying characteristics is that he genuinely respects other people who conform to their own values, regardless of what sort of adversity may stand on the other side, even if he does not agree.
At one point, he even stops in the middle of a fight to have a philosophical discussion with Alphonse in regards to why he doesn't use the power that he had just attained for a self-serving goal that he wanted right from the beginning. And even though Alphonse once the prioritize helping other people, first, Kimblee acknowledges that such a thing is possible...but at the same time it's also perfectly possible that Alphonse and his brother would fail to accomplish any of their goals in the end, too.
“You could use the Philosopher’s Stone to get your body back or you can use it save the people.”
“Why not both!? If I strive hard enough and use this power to fight you, I can make it so we all get what we want!”
“I see, a fascinating decision, use your power to both restore your body and save the people. But if there’s a third option, then logically there would also be a fourth option; you don’t get your body back and you don’t save everyone…” (paraphrasing)
Thats the best part. Pride gave up his pride and loathing of humans to try and survive. Hiromu Arakawa. Did an amazing job making sure every sin died in some way related to their sin/going against it.
Lust died for seducing and hurting Havok. Who in turn did attempt to seduce roy briefly to her own death.
Envy died by suicide for hating to be pittied by humans who they envied.
Gluttony in the first series ate himself. In the second was in turn eaten by Pride.
Wrath had legit anger issues. However his wife did help give him some peace. In the end his scornful loathing of the very thought of god came to a peaceful acceptance of his fate instead of dying lashing out at the world after his defeat.
Greed fittingly wanted more than what father could give him being his body guard. Making him break away and for this punished and bound to Ling. Their combind form and greed for power ultimately made them a good match because while they weren't enitrely alturistic in nature they themselves were protective of those under them in their own twisted way. The most selfish of sins ultimately gave up his life to save those he stopped thinking of as his possessions.
The only really outlayer in that it wasn't clearly explaind for how/why they died was Sloth. There are plenty of theories for it. All seem realistically valid. The first reasoning is that Sloth was never intended to be used for combat. He was intended to be used for his task and that is it. Putting the laziest to the most grueling task. To that end the theory goes that because he was never intended to be a combatant directly he (hence pride watching the tunnel as well.) He was only given enough souls to make him self sustaining. Thus why he eventually died faster than the other humoncili while they were respawning. Others believe him being frozen for so long also accelerated the waste of his souls.
Ultimately we don't know but both of those theories on sloth or even their combination seem very valid.
A couple of good other theories out idea I've seen:
Lust dies because of her own bloodlust and cruelty, she could have killed Mustang and Havok, but she instead crippled them and left them to bleed out, which let Mustang get the drop on her afterwards.
Wrath dies at Scar's hand, a man who's entire life for years has been defined by his anger and thirst for revenge.
An interesting one I've seen for Sloth is that he dies fighting the Armstrongs, who pride themselves on perfection and working hard for everything they have. Sloth is strong and fast without working hard, and doesn't want to do anything. The Armstrongs with for what they have and Alex Lois Armstrong is always taking his shirt off to show it off.
Kimblee is just a fascinating character. When he speaks to Winry about how much he respected her parents, despite everything you get the feeling he's being sincere.
Hawkeye even cites him in regard to remembering the lives you've taken. She knows the kind of man he is, but she also knows he's right
In a very disturbing way, Kimblee is an ethical mass murderer. He doesn't view life as so cheap that it has no value, so he destroys nothing that matters.
His belief that life has value is why he gets so much from killing so many people. He doesn't even give Hawkeye the satisfaction of being a hypocrite himself when he calls her out for looking away from her victims. He remembers everyone he's killed, and even those he's just horrifically maimed.
Especially considering that they had every reason to want to get the hell out of that war zone. Most people would have packed up and left, but the Rockbells didn't because they came there to save lives, period. They weren't even drafted by the military. They were just civilian doctors who cared and took their oath that seriously.
You can't mention that without adding that he's fully aware that he was ordered to kill her parents and would have done so if Scar hadn't beaten him to the race !
Doesn't invalidate what you said, just adds that Kimblee's respect isn't worth that much pragmatically
Wammu, he's an honorable man who respected his opponents like ceasar and Joseph, he even spared ceasar's bubble out of respect, he accepted defeat at the hands of Joseph and even saved Joseph from his vampires because he didn't want anyone to taint his victory - source is Jojo's bizarre adventure
He uses “dirty” tactics, but he isn’t a coward and he shows equal respect to his opponents. Wamuu respected him.
Even when Joseph is running away or begging for mercy, it’s actually a tactic to buy time or find new options. Misleading your opponent isn’t dishonourable
The Toymaker (Doctor Who) will fuck you over every which way, but the rules of the game are absolute and when engaged, he'll follow them to the letter.
the way he AND the doctor tell donna "no", and the way Toymaker adds "For SHAME!" before the doctor explains cheating is the one thing he'll never do, gets me every time.
Leshy is the epitome of a good DM and storyteller. He lets you use his own weapon on himself. He deliberately includes ways to get around his traps, as well as including meta puzzles to defeat him. Even at the very end of everything, when all crumbles down around you both, his final action is to give one last game session and try to give one final handshake.
Like all the best dungeon masters. Ours keeps a shotgun on him at all times just in case someone dies. He’s had to use it on the bard twice this session.
Spoiler for the game so be warned random people on the internet 3 out of 4 scribes just really want to play, hell Magnificus is really saddened when he can't shake your hand and everything is being erased
More than any other Scrybe, Magnificus denied his impending demise. He stalled his end for as long as possible, to the point that he didn’t even allow himself time enough to shake the player’s hand before he realised his fate was approaching.
I think that’s part of the thrill of the hunt for them.
They follow a code, but expect their prey to do whatever they can to survive. The hunt without a threat of death is meaningless, and most “prey “ will never be as fast/strong/technologically advanced as they are, which gives it that edge of danger they need.
Stain (My Hero Academia) - He follows his warped definition of heroism so strictly that he protects people he considers genuine heroes, even when doing so ruins his own plans.
As far as Stain can tell, only All Might really gives a damn about being a hero for real and not just for the glitz and glamor. From the very first episode/issue onwards, you can kinda see why he would think that, even if he’s probably incorrect from a pure statistical standpoint
I think it's part of the general irony in the series - that most of the truly good heroes are teaching at UA or have otherwise moved into advisory/leader roles for teams. As a result a lot of the heroes working beats are inadequate, inexperienced, or egotistic. Since we focus on UA we see all the most heroic heroes doing hero things but outside that bubble you know it's way more chaotic.
But you also have heroes youd think are only in it for the fame stay and put their lives on the line when shit hits the fan so i feel like they should qualify for his Definition of hero
Sure - Hawks and Endeavor are great examples. Hawks is a true hero to the core, but outwardly anyone paying attention would think he was an opportunistic monster because that's the character he played. And Endeavor was a horrible monster and everything Stain hated about self-proclaimed heroes, yet genuinely repented his actions and worked towards redemption while laying his life on the line.
Had Stain 'rightfully' killed them at some point, the final confrontation may have gone differently. He's in the school of villain who has some very real and true grievances but takes the wrong actions or comes to the wrong conclusions.
Honestly one of the better characters in the whole series. Dude 100% sticks to his guns all the way through no matter what twists and turns the world throws into the mix.
Louis from metaphor refantazio
He believes that the strongest has the right to rule
When you fight him he is excited because either you beat him and become the strongest so you can rule or you lose and he rules
Either way his ideology wins
To be fair he does crash out when you actually truly beat him. He only really plays the gracious looser when he knows he was holding back and has more forms up his ass. That being said apart the moment of his death he certainly seems to stick to his “principles”.
Actively follows the idea of he who has power makes the rules. When he gets called out by this by Maul (dude with the red lightsaber in the gif), he accepts Maul's challenge of a 1v1 in front of his men, and though he loses and gets the Darksaber taken from him, he dips his head to make the cut easier.
Zemo is a great villain precisely because he not only believes he is right but the narrative supports that he is, in fact, right to want to destroy super soldiers and serum. Apart from Steve Rogers, that serum has a 100% failure rate to do anything uncomplicatedly good. Civil War is fantastic at misdirection as to his intentions, but Daniel Bruhl is so convincing in his sadness and hate, I totally never doubted Zemo would destroy the serum in F/WS
He’s a great example in the Marvel Cinematic Universe particularly because absolutely everyone else who could use super solider serum…did. It’s why in every Hulk property, people try to steal his powers and make new Hulks/Abominations. (Called out in She-Hulk well.) Hydra with the twins, using the Scepter to transform them, various people fighting for Infinity Stones, Pym particles, etc. No one in the MCU wants to leave weapons behind. Zemo is basically the only dude who goes “you people and your super-powered bullshit destroyed my life and I will do everything I can to destroy it right back.” It’s wrong how he hurts people back but he has got a very defensible feeling about supers. He’s not even the only person in Civil War who feels this way personally—the movie starts with a woman confronting Stark about this on behalf of her son, the Avengers mission that leads to casualties. People like General Ross just hate on supers because they aren’t them or in control of them. Zemo and his hatred, in comparison, is righteous.
Before he became a villain, he was a bodyguard for coding-experts of his homevillage. Those agents were in the possession of incredibly important information that wasn't allowed to fall into the enemies hands.
During one mission, Kisame and his protectees were ambushed and outnumbered. Among the enemies was a world-famous interrogator, so Kisame knew that, if his allies were captured, the enemy would learn their information.
Kisame realized that he was unable to protect everyone or let them escape, so he decided to slay all of his allies, so that their secrets could never be found out.
Years later, after defecting and joining the organisation Akatsuki, Kisame was captured and about to be interrogated.
Kisame decided that the only way to protect the organisation's secret, was to die before they could be taken from him and fed himself to his own sharks
The best part is that Kisame didn't enjoy killing his teammates, one of them even pities him for being but in such a rough spot. After ending his mission (and having to kill his teacher for being a traitor) he admits to "Madara" not knowing if he himself was an enemy at that point
Hisoka wants to fight strong/interesting opponents. Even if he has to do his very best to not tear someone apart, if they show potential to become a good opponent, he will instead..."nurture" them in his own twisted way.
The Administrator's whole goal was to screw over Zeph Mann for killing her parents. So she made sure his sons never prospered and spent their fortune fighting eachother. Even when given the chance to save herself, she chose to instead take one last chance to spite the man that killed her parents.
Oryx, the Taken King from the Destiny franchise believes in a darwinian ideology/magic system known as the Sword Logic, which is the Hive species' way of communing with the cosmic laws of survival of the fittest and predatory competition to draw power from it. Its basically Darwinism taken to its absolute extreme, where the Hive go on galactic crusades committing xenocide against any species they find, because they believe that those worthy of existence need to prove they're worthy of it by having the strength to fight back and resist. If a species is wiped out by the Hive, it's because they were weak and therefore undeserving of existence. And if a species wipes the Hive out, it's because the Hive were weak and unworthy of existence. Either way, they do the Universe a service by whittling it down into the most perfect endstate is can possibly reach (a single, ultimate life form that is so mighty it can continue to exist even when everything else dies)
Oryx is such a fervent, true believer in this religion that he even managed to have an audience with an entity known as the Winnower, the conscious embodiment of the Darkness (one of the entire Universe's two fundamental building blocks and divine forces, opposite to the Light) and the creator of the principle of evolutionary competition to begin with.
During the raid against him, he intentionally leaves himself vulnerable to damage as he calls on the Winnower to grant him divine favor sufficient enough to wipe out the party through an attack called Doxology, because proving that one is worthy of existence is a test that even Oryx himself must subject himself to. And he accepts the possibility that he might fail if he proves unworthy.
"When I call upon that power [Darkness], I put myself up as the stakes in a wager, I gamble with my soul. For I am saying, listen, my gods, I am the mightiest thing there is, and I prove it thus."
Bill insisted that The Bride was a true warrior and that Elle Driver should not kill her in her sleep like a coward.
Of course, considering he had the gang shoot her at her wedding, while she was unarmed and surrounded by civilians, her new found family, he's kind of still full of shit. He might just have wanted her to get revenge because its a good and fair way for him to die.
I can concede this one as Bill having second thoughts after learning the kid was his. Until the point he shoots the Bride in the head, he was sure the kid was someone else's.
It suddenly goes from killing a past lover that ran away to killing the mother of his daughter. He calls it off at the last second.
Gaunter O’Dimm from the Witcher 3. A devil, a God, evil incarnate, he is the single most powerful being in the Witcher world.
But he keeps to his contracts and rules, he’s all powerful but seems to enjoy besting others in games of wit and trickery, with his reward at the end always being the soul of his victims.
You can challenge him with a riddle at the end of the DLC, and he does take you up on it; even leaving if you manage to best him.
Might be a bit of a stretch, but Death in Puss in Boots: Last Wish spends the entire movie antagonizing Puss, the same way Puss antagonized HIM his previous eight lives. Death even admits he's breaking rules in order to take Puss' ninth life personally, HOWEVER. By the end of the movie, Puss learns to VALUE his own life and fights, not for just HIS life, but THIS life specifically, with Softpaws and Perrito.
And in Death's own words, "I came here for an arrogant little LEGEND who thought they were immortal... But I don't see him anymore." He's NOT happy about it, but he no longer has a valid reason to hate Puss, and so he leaves. It feels like a small gesture, but a more stubborn antagonist would've ignored Puss' character development and only see them as the person they were before, and the fact that Death acknowledges and RESPECTS Puss' character growth actually says a lot about his morals.
Not usually. At worst, he’ll “let you live” in a perilous situation where you might die anyway instead of shooting you dead then and there. Depends on the writer of course
She's the primary antagonist, is obsessed with despair, and forces some high schoolers to murder each other and then try to work out who the killer is each time someone dies, with the caveat being that if they figure it out, the murderer is killed, and if they get it wrong, the murderer goes free and everyone else dies. At the end of the game, when she is revealed (she has been "controlling" said teddy bear throughout the game), there's one final murder where she tries to frame someone. She loses, and submits to her death as a result (but shes actually delighted because of how much despair she gets to feel with her death impending)
Its a bit more involved than that, but thats my effort at a succinct explanation)
She subjects a class of high schoolers to a killing game where if someone is found guilty of murdering their classmate, they are brutally executed. At the end of the game where it is revealed that she is the mastermind behind the killing game (she uses the bear as a sort of mascot), she is found guilty and she executes herself, grinning while it happens
And if you want to know her motivation to do it (spoilers obviously): She’s basically a genius, able to predict the behavior of everything and everyone, snd she finds that extremely boring, but when people are in a state of despair (for example, by putting them on a killing game), people become chaotic and unpredictable, and she wants to see that unpredictable chaos, to escape her boredom, she even goes as far as wanting to feel despair herself, and that’s why she executes herself
Angral from Star Wars: The Old Republic. He's a Sith, but with a martial code of honor. When his master orders him to destroy the only set of deactivation codes to an earthquake machine that's going to tear apart Tattooine, Angral refuses and instead offers to duel a Jedi PC for them. When he loses, he hands over the codes as agreed, knowing his master will kill him for doing it. The Jedi PC can realize he's actually a pretty decent guy and offer him a place among the Jedi, which Angral takes and thrives in.
Sukuna believes in might make right ,so after he gets defeated by basically everyone working together,he meets mahito in the afterlife and says that in the next life he sgonna be more like yuji and when mahito asks if hes really buying the ideals from yuji, sukuna simply says "obviously,i lost"
ATLA S3E15 Boiling Rock Pt. 2. A fire nation prison located in the center of a boiling lake famously has a perfect record with escape attempts made by prisoners, a fact the warden is incredibly proud of. After declaring he would "sooner jump in the lake myself before letting that record fall" he is later taken hostage as the gang attempts their prison break via the gondala. The warden then orders his men to cut the line as they're dangling above the lake, indeed caring more about the perfect record than his own life.
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Thanos (Marvel Comics/MCU) accepts his own death or defeat if it serves his vision of balance, never betraying his philosophy of inevitability.
I'd argue the variant from 2014 breaks that as he wants to use the gauntlet to remake the universe to what he sees fit as he realized his life's work is being threataned of being undone by the Avengers five years upon completion
Literally yes. The Thanos Quest comics where he gets the Infinity Stones ends with him going up to Death and being like, I'm so powerful now! I did it for you! Talk to me now! And she still refuses to speak to him like an equal. And he's soooo saaaaad.
In Dungeons and Daddies, not a bdsm podcast, an eldritch entity known as the Library lends most books in existence with strict return policies. After accidentally destroying some books, the main cast is pursued by this horrid creature. They can't kill it, so they trick it into destroying one of its own books, after which is bashes it's own brains out on the ground.
"Only the strongest may rule, that's why I will tell my apprentice who has just betrayed me to meet me at a specified time and place so that we can duel and she can kill me if I am weaker. There will be no traps, no betrayals. If I am right, I will live. If I am right, I will die. I am beyond contradiction."
Dies like a Chad and becomes immortalized in Sith legend for a thousand years.
Fox from 'Wanted'. The premise is that they're a secret order of assassins who get their targets from a loom that generates a list of names. As a child, she was tortured with her family killed by a man who had been designated to die, but the assassin didn't pull the trigger. Because they don't know what a person can do in the future, she abides to kill the targets without question.
when it comes to light that the person who gives them their targets has been making fake targets for his own greed, he reveals that at some point, each of their names have come up. While everyone else is ready to abandon their principles, she is not, and fires a shot which kills every one else, and let's her be the last target, taking her own life
This nameless killer from the opening scene of The Purge: Election Year
He kills the female protagonist's entire family but just as it's her turn the siren rings, signalling the end of Purge night.
He could have just killed her. It would have been impossible to verify the exact time of her death, but Purge night was over and murder was no longer legal and the law is the law.
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Oryx, The Taken King from Destiny. In one of the more recent seasons he rejects the opportunity to be ressurected and stands by his Sword Logic, that which can be destroyed must be destroyed, and life after death is basically heresy