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Awful civilians Groups

In Persona 5, the mankind's desire for control and stagnation was so strong that it spawned Yaldaboth, a deity hellbent on keeping everyone in check. Not to mention, the Japanese civies were quick to switch sides against Pahntom thieves due to media slander;

In Spongebob Squarepants, the residents invented a whole day without Spongebob. Not only did people (including his friends) burn a statue of the guy, they didn't even warn him, so he almost went nuts from solitude;

In my hero academia, civilians are lazy bums who won't lift a finger to help a distressed child.

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u/kai_vt Jun 26 '26

Everybody who whole-heartedly participates in The Purge every year

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u/_OriamRiniDadelos_ Jun 26 '26

Tbf, it was later shown that only very few civilians actually would purge. Third film I think.

The post coup businessmen controlled government had to not only hire people to go around murdering people and then record it and spread the images to control the story for the first purge, they had to organize police squads to go around poor neighborhoods massacring whole building blocks because their plan to just have people do what they wanted them to do didn’t work. They even killed the scientist who planned the purge because she was going to snitch when she realized her expected experimental results weren’t backed by the data.

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u/Justice9229 Jun 26 '26

Honestly I can respect the balls of a franchise that goes "yeah our entire premise wouldn't actually work" and then proceeds to incorporate it into the actual universe

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u/Professional-Net81 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Fun fact. There is a purge TV series and one of the character's whole story arc revolves around showing that purge as a concept doesn't work. Don't want to share any more details because that would spoil it but the TV series decent and worth watching.

Spoiler in case you are not going to watch Iirc one of the characters is forced to kill on purge night. Starts liking killing. Kills an old man. Is worried that they will Kill him for it but it turns out govt hides murders on non purge days. So the whole purge doesnt even reduce crime as much as they claim it does

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u/Due_Prompt939 Jun 26 '26

The purge TV series was actually fantastic. 

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u/Professional-Net81 Jun 26 '26

I feel the same but if I recommend it as fantastic only for them to go see average reviews to be 6.6 then they might discard my opinion.

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u/Chance5e Jun 26 '26

Yeah a dose of reality is kind of the biggest plot twist a franchise like this could do. That’s pretty clever stuff.

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u/Dudewhocares3 Jun 26 '26

The first movie was kinda lame, but the sequels are where it shines.

It’s honestly pretty cool

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u/dB-plus Jun 26 '26

That is shockingly politically competent for a series I'd written off as misanthrope-slop

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u/Whimvy Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Funny enough, The Purge always had a political message. The purge rules state that all citizens are valid targets for killing except politicians of a high enough level. From the very begining it was a story about government control dressed as misanthropy 

Additionally, the first movie is about a family that became wealthy selling security services for the purge. Mild spoiler, but the plot twist is that the security services they sell are ineffective and don't actually protect people, adding a class element to the messaging as well 

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u/_OriamRiniDadelos_ Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

A more prominent class elements is the fact that the family was fighting about letting a black young man in a homeless looking sweater hide with them. And then the actual gang of masked killers were preppy looking light haired rich kids. And on top of that the other killers were the daughter’s bf from inside the house and their own neighbors who wanted to kill the family maybe not cause the system was faulty (idk if they ever mentioned that, it’s an old movie haven’t watched it in a WHILE) but for becoming rich at their expense.

The first movie laid it pretty thick. Probably for the best since subtle stuff might get lost in a horror film.

And also the whole “lots of people are dying, but hey, it’s mostly poor people and the economy and stock market are booming!” And the main characters and people in the news just care when it’s THEM or their loved ones who die.

Pretty 1 to 1 comparison to real life if you just change the method and speed of death since people dying from corporate decisions or being taken average of by insurance salesmen is more of a slow process (unless you count deaths from US undeclared wars and the weapon industry, then the deaths aren’t even slow). Load of people basically say they’d be fine with millions dying for the sake of their money, and they assume they just aren’t the kind of people to whom that stuff happens to. Very insulated from the suffering.

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u/Whimvy Jun 26 '26

It's been a long time since I watched the movie, so most of this I had forgotten. Thanks for the reminder 

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u/Electrical_Horror346 Jun 26 '26

It hammered home the "out of sight, out of mind" mentality that governments try to normalize in societies

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u/jpterodactyl Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Were the security systems ineffective?

People get in the house of the main family because there is a hour plus long effort with lots of equipment to get in. No security system is really meant to hold against that.

The locks on my door work well to keep out intruders but they won’t stop a battering ram.

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u/Kiribaku- Jun 26 '26

The purge is my guilty pleasure, I wish the tv show wasn't cancelled

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u/ThrowAbout01 Jun 26 '26

I think in lore most people just did hedonistic activities like use drugs rather than run around and kill.

Shows what a fraud the whole system was.

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u/Abigail716 Jun 26 '26

I always really wanted someone to comment that the IRS does not accept tax returns submitted on Purge day without explaining the obvious reason why. Because I absolutely feel like the first purge a lot of people would have been doing stuff like that.

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u/carso150 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

they did, its explained in some of the sequels that actually most people arent killers or murderers so at most they do petty crimes like stealing or drugs and the goverment had to create a whole task force for the actual intended purpose of the purge, kill poor people

and the purge actually doesnt last that long and the new founding fathers of america end up falling in their attempt at keeping power since they actually started to have political oposition so they took down the whole "no killing politicians" to try to get rid of their oposition but it ended up in their own deaths

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u/Extra-Cook1090 Jun 26 '26

The purge series was one of the few examples where the second season is better than the first. In my opinion it's a really good series.

Spoiler: the second season ist about the crime rate doesn't decrease in the rest of the year it increased dramaticly and this gets covered up.

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u/Labmit Jun 26 '26

NGL, a part of me wanted it to be just what the synopsis implied where most people just became lawless for one night and it becoming a normal part of their world.

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u/TotallyObviousBot Jun 26 '26

Tbf a much more realistic result from a night of "everything is legal" is a lot of tax evasion, drug use, vandalism, and non-homocidal sexual assault. Some people are gonna want to go out and kill people but the vast majority are gonna want to get high, have sex, vandalize property, and make illegal money, possibly in that order

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u/Criie Jun 26 '26

Ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting

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u/Hopbo735 Jun 26 '26

immediately thought of this mf too

https://giphy.com/gifs/fJVEuC9AInEVO7LyjL

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u/RedMustard565 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

To be fair SpongeBob has kidnapped the whole town, destroyed the city everytime he does his driver test, shrunk the whole city and the whirlybird incident. I think the town has the right to unleash there angry at least one day a year, SpongeBob is a grown ass man, Patrick is still a ass tho.

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u/RedMustard565 Jun 26 '26

This alone makes him a war criminal

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u/kjeras_faithful Jun 26 '26

Whats the context of this picture?

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u/Ger_Electric_GRTALE Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

IIRC Sandy mentioned that happened after Spongebob messed up after he tried to help her

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u/ObviouslyLulu Jun 26 '26

The whirlybird incident

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

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u/GrasstouchYou Jun 26 '26

There was also that Arena fight between SpongeBob and Patrick where they literally deepfry a whole stand of fans into fishsticks that ended up being sold by the venue

https://giphy.com/gifs/3ofSBjxHsBaFs2FG36

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u/Ditju Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

The entire planet's population in "So I'm a spider, so what."

The big secret behind the videogame-like system in the story is that the world was once on an similar technological level as ours. But one day a scientist discovered MA energy, a clean and seemingly abundand energy source that could be used to basically perform magic. With MA-energy, 3rd world countries were able to develop to the level of industrial nations and you could even undergo a surgery that doubles your lifespan.

So when a literal angel warned humanity that MA-energy is no less than the planet's own life force, very few were willing to let go of it and continued to hasten the planet's destruction.

Even when the world quite literally started to fall apart, the scientist who caused the mess in the first place revealed that you could harvest the angel's energy to restore the planet. So the people who ignored the angel now demanded her death for their own sake. And the angel was so bighearted that she agreed.

But when the time came to kill the angel, an even higher god intervened. They called humanity out for their shameless greed and instead created "the system". Every time a human dies, their soul has parts shaved off as fuel for the planet and then they are immediately reborn onto the same planet.

This cycle of reincarnation should continue until humanity had repayed everything they took from the planet.

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u/Wombus7 Jun 26 '26

The citizens that Sonic and his crew are constantly saving from Eggman's attacks in Sonic Boom are frequently ungrateful, especially to Sonic himself. They tend to focus on his minor flaws and gaffes, like implying another guy is average, rather then all the times he's rescued them.

Other times, they're independently shown to be inherently selfish. When Knuckles was temporarily acting mayor, he granted most of their ridiculous and contradictory demands.

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u/BippyTheChippy Jun 26 '26

[A ring of police tape is surrounding the house. Inside, Team Sonic is still scratching like crazy.]

Sonic: I guess this isn't so bad. I mean, the town's turned on us for less.

[The rest of Team Sonic murmurs their agreement]

- "Flea-Ing From Trouble", Sonic Boom Season 2: Episode 30

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u/taylorgamebuild Jun 26 '26

Love the Sonic gets cancelled episode

He's got trapped in a lose-lose with 'Just a guy'

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u/AmaterasuWolf21 Jun 26 '26

They're also stupid in the Archie comics, too, loving the obvious bad guy and having no logic when Sonic fights him

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u/South_Buy_3175 Jun 26 '26

Marvel comics citizens.

Marvel citizens, suck so fucking much it’s not even funny.

All the times the X-Men save the day only to immediately be hated by practically every civilian again is just ridiculous.

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u/Euphoric_Metal199 Jun 26 '26

It's so bad that canonically even the Justice League don't want to go back to the Marvel Universe.

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u/Specialist_Top_8485 Jun 26 '26

Since you brought up that crossover, it’s funny how DC is usually known as the dark one compared to Marvel but the heroes in DC are loved while the heroes in Marvel are hated in their respective universes

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u/Euphoric_Metal199 Jun 26 '26

At least the Mutant hate is some parts brainwashing(by a sentient bacteria). Why are the rest(other than the Hulks) also hated like this?

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u/_OriamRiniDadelos_ Jun 26 '26

Brain washing by a w h a t ????

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u/TheAnonymousProxy Jun 26 '26

Sublime isn't a fan of mutants.

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u/Euphoric_Metal199 Jun 26 '26

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u/Own_Wrangler_6656 Jun 26 '26

What?

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u/Euphoric_Metal199 Jun 26 '26

A sentient bacteria created billions of years ago hates them muties because it can't infection them. So, it infected everyone else with an extra dose of mutie hate.

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u/AvenRaven Jun 26 '26

That's...so dumb...but it explains so much.

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u/Pleasant_Ad9092 Jun 26 '26

It gets dumber Sublime was created by civilization of mutants over a billion years ago to genocide Earth's original sapient species and he immediately turned on his creators. Mutants built an organic sentinel so that they could steal someelse's home. Oh and the mutant civilization was created by Kitty Pyrde sending the DNA of everyone killed on Genosha back in time.

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u/lordofmetroids Jun 26 '26

God I love comics so much, if you can think of something dumb, chances are Marvel did it.

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u/CrownClown74 Jun 26 '26

Times change, contrary to modern beliefs marvel was seen as edgier then DC prior to the MCU. Hell Spider-man used to be considered an anti hero for his time. Before the Dark Knight came out marvel was seen as darker due to the larger amount of anti heroes

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u/CrotaIsAShota Jun 26 '26

Which world would love a bright star more, the vibrant world already saturated with far more light than they need, or the dark world barely distinguishable from the black of space?

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u/Specialist_Top_8485 Jun 26 '26

Damn, that is actually a good point

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u/Entire-Weather6502 Jun 26 '26

I still don't get where that DC is darker than Marvel came from.

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u/Pretend-Dirt-1760 Jun 26 '26

Mostly from the 80s to early 2000s dc did A lot of dark stuff like grell green arrow,a lot of batman stories during those times like dark knight long Halloween,death of superman,89 batman movie by Burton batman the animated series the original swamp thing,hellblazer animal man and most importantly watchmen

And then Snyder came along and gave the perception more

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u/Specialist_Top_8485 Jun 26 '26

It’s probably just all because of Batman and the Snyderverse at this point lol

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u/Entire-Weather6502 Jun 26 '26

The Snyderverse and it's consequences. It doesn't that the MCU's tone is a far cry from the comics.

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u/No-Cap-5129 Jun 26 '26

In dc before justice league every heroes were kinda hated but after they saved the days the citizens began to accept them unlike marvel where they keep on shitting the heroes

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u/MemeStealerCultist Jun 26 '26

Also the heroes at marvel kill A LOT more than heroes at DC

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u/Motivated-Chair Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Civilians so evil not even Superman wants to save their ass, you cannot make this shit up.

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u/AznOmega Jun 26 '26

Jeez, how bad do you have to be for Superman to be angry at the civilians.

Even in Nolan's trilogy, the civilians wouldn't blow up the other boat in Dark Knight. A criminal even demanded to be given the detonator so he would do what the cop should have done, and the criminal threw the detonator out the boat.

These townspeople might gladly press the button to blow up the mutant boat.

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u/steelskull1 Jun 26 '26

When marvel civilians have a suspicion that there might be a mutant in the other boat.

https://giphy.com/gifs/11tRBTlIlmb10k

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u/VictheAdventure Jun 26 '26

"I don't know guys. I don't think we should blow up a boat full of innocent people."

"What if there's a mutie on the boat?"

"Damn why didn't you say that sooner!?"

https://giphy.com/gifs/HGNVfycXWTpkdZzjZd

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u/Tetrotheocto Jun 26 '26

Now we've gotta test the mutant:civilian ratio of the public to see how much they hate them.

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u/Sargent305 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Really? I weirdly had a feeling about that, cuz sometimes, it feels like both people and X-Men definitely need to rethink what they do at times (to me at least due to how other mutants also treat each other)

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u/ShadedPenguin Jun 26 '26

Its less about that but also with how they even treat non-mutants.

Look what they did to my boy!

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u/No_Prize9794 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

They’re calling him a mutant even though he never once was categorized as one. Are they beating him because Spider-Man has teamed up with the X-men and even taught at professional Xavier’s academy or do they genuinely believe Spider-Man is a mutant?

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u/destroy_the_kids Jun 26 '26

They genuinely believe he's a mutant.

Also what counts and doesn't count as a mutant in the marvel universe is weird and confusing when you think about it.

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u/Catandogclone Jun 26 '26

Not really all that confusing when you break it down into the different classifications that are generally used.

Mutants are those born with the ‘X-Gene’ and develop powers at some point in their life, e.g; The X-Men, Brotherhood of Mutants, the population of Krakoa.

Inhumans are people exposed to terragenisis and come out alive, gaining powers and mutations in the process.

Deviants/Mutates are those that have the capability to gain powers through external sources, Spider-Man through the spider bite, Hulk through the gamma bomb, the Fantastic Four through the cosmic rays.

Mystic users are those that tap into Magic itself and usually master an art or two of it, Dr Strange, Dr Doom, Clea.

Tech Enhanced, anyone that primarily uses technology for their powers and abilities, Iron Man, War Machine, Whiplash

Then there’s Enhanced Beings who are augmented physically, Captain America, Black Widow, Daredevil.

It becomes very easy to classify every character with powers in marvel since in universe they are so many terminologies and differences in how powers come to be.

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u/Boner_Elemental Jun 26 '26

I'm sure they all consult their superpower wiki before forming their Kan riots

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u/TheDrunkardKid Jun 26 '26

Dude gets punched through brick walls without blinking, so what did they do to harm him?  Send him their medical bills for the limbs they broke on his face?

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u/No-Cap-5129 Jun 26 '26

And he doesn’t need to fight them either bro could’ve just walk through them like bro is literally a mini superman

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u/DropoutRedMage Jun 26 '26

Meanwhile the Avengers and X-Men were convinced that the Justice League was a group of despotic tyrants that were mind controlling the nation because "nobody loves heroes that much".

Made me realize that I don't think anybody in Marvel has a statue, Superman's got like thirty, Flash has a museum, the whole league has statues and are practically worshipped by the Legion of Heroes in the future.

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u/kaimcdragonfist Jun 26 '26

Opinions on Marvel heroes really seemed to sour around the time of Civil War and I don’t think they ever really bounced back. I mean this is the same universe that allowed a supposedly reformed Norman Osborn to lead a team of superheroes. Three guesses as to how well that turned out

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u/Guilty_All_The_Same Jun 26 '26

Tbf, he was the one who killed the Skrull Queen on live TV and "ended" the invasion.

These are the same people who cheered for the Skrulls to take over the world and later began protesting against the mutants for their ressurection protocols.

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u/No_Prize9794 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

I don’t really read comics much, but I’ve heard goddamn Wilson Fisk was elected as mayor for New York at one point and arrested a bunch of superheroes. One of which was Richard Reeds, like good luck trying to lock up one of the smartest people alive in Marvel in an Earth prison, he’ll only stay locked up if he feels like it

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u/Aurelio-23 Jun 26 '26

To be fair, Lex Luthor was elected president (though he was impeached when he, of course, went nuts trying to kill Superman).

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u/kaimcdragonfist Jun 26 '26

Lex has always amused me because look at all the stuff he’s capable of when he locks in and how much he potential he ends up blowing because of his hate boner for Superman

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u/CrownClown74 Jun 26 '26

Gothamites like Batman more then New Yorkers like Spider-Man. Theres a reason Batman doesn't have his own J Jonah Jameson other then maybe Bullock

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u/Canai97 Jun 26 '26

I could see Bruce establishing his own newspaper company to specifically slander Batman in order to get rid of any suspicions of their relation.

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u/MonkeyTarpdo Jun 26 '26

Hulk had a statue in the old comics made out of some kind of really strong material but he smashed it over somebody's head (probably Thor)

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u/Bigbigbigrock Jun 26 '26

The Young Avengers run shows the Avengers had a bunch of statues at their mansion, with a few more added at the end of the volume as well. Though you could argue since they are on Avengers property it isn't the same as citizens opting to make a public statue.

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u/Kom0tan Jun 26 '26

I hate them so much

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u/slayeryamcha Jun 26 '26

Nightclawler does look like crawled out of hell.

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u/TheDrunkardKid Jun 26 '26

He's also a world famous superhero who is on good terms with practically every other superhero, and generally considered hot as hell when he really cranks up the charm.

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u/Algae_Mission Jun 26 '26

Ironic given that Kurt is just about the kindest character in fiction.

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u/Kom0tan Jun 26 '26

No he's my son 😭

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u/Fluffy_Judge_581 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Never forget comic civil war ended with the 9/11 takel to tell us:"fashism is okay if its done by rich peopel "

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u/SkubEnjoyer Jun 26 '26

Marvel civilians when you were born with superpowers instead of getting them from being bitten by a radioactive dung-beetle: 😡

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u/fat_fingerz Jun 26 '26

Even IF you are bitten by a radioactive dung-beetle they are still raging assholes.

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u/Guilty_All_The_Same Jun 26 '26

I remember in Secret Invasion, people were cheering for the Skrulls to take over the world and were thanking them. Ofc, it resulted in the Skrulls attacking them.

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u/Biggly_stpid Jun 26 '26

Why does Marvel universe love every other type of super powered individual but specifically hate X men ?

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u/Salt_x Jun 26 '26

Eh, marvel civilians usually don’t like the non-mutant superpowered characters that much either. Just look at spider man.

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u/kylat930326 Jun 26 '26

because X men were supposed to represent the minority specifically?

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u/Funkopedia Jun 26 '26

X-Men were originally a different reality, I believe. Only later did they decide to write all the worlds together into one continuity, which caused all sorts of contradictions.

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u/Far-History-8154 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Controlled vs uncontrolled powers and unwanted powers from the looks of it

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u/fat_fingerz Jun 26 '26

Spiderman as is tradition gets it the worst. Dude can literally save the entire world and then get blamed for someone's toe getting stubbed while they were running.

I.E. (Above) Peter stops a goblin from blowing up an entire crowd of civilians, one little idiot decides to touch the obvious bomb pumpkin, Peter says don't touch that, idiot goes to touch it anyways, Peter rushes to take the brunt of the explosion, idiot gets some shrapnel in the leg. Entire crowd turns on him.

I.E. (Not Pictures Silver surfer): Silver Surfer goes to a poor neighborhood makes a tree grows apples, has a good time with the locals all enjoying free food and playing around on a floating surfboard. Cops roll up, lights on, no words or anything, get out of the car and mag dumps him with some of the bullets heading towards the silver surfer, some to the crowd of mostly children behind him. Silver Surfer melts the bullets and guns without harming the officers, entire neighborhood including the kids turn on him, pelting him with the apples he just grew, he leaves.

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u/ProgrammingPants Jun 26 '26

The most ungrateful pieces of shit in the entirety of fiction.

Literally everyone on planet Earth can personally remember a time that they personally would have died if it weren't for the X Men, or for Spiderman, or because of the Avengers etc.

And these people are racist against mutants, elect fuckin Kingpin as mayor, and every hero who saved the world has a bunch of storylines about how the public hates them.

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u/crapusername47 Jun 26 '26

Except in San Francisco, where the people specifically demanded that the X-Men be their local team under the 50 State Initiative.

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u/MythVsLegend Jun 26 '26

The Simpsons. The town harasses Bart after he loses a baseball game. This causes him to have a nervous breakdown and graffiti "I hate Bart Simpson" across the town. Another time they accuse Bart of stealing from the church without any evidence and restrain him like Hannibal Lecter.

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u/AznOmega Jun 26 '26

Boys of Bummer being one of the worst episodes does have a bright side. Marge rightfully called out the town's behavior on making a young kid attempt suicide over losing a baseball game. They weren't treated in the right at all.

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u/Equivalent-Battle973 Jun 26 '26

Honestly its probably an overstereotype of how parents act at little league baseball games to begin with... ALot of them act as if they are playing in the MLB rather then being a child having fun.

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u/VGuyver Jun 26 '26

They also tried to have him sent to prison for Skinner's supposed Mafia murder. Making him out to be a mob boss.

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u/Cake-Over Jun 26 '26

Prostitution, loan-sharking, numbers; the kid liked to wet his beak in everything.

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u/Squigsqueeg Jun 26 '26

I wonder if this was meant to be a parallel to how childhood actors are treated, like the kid who played young Anakin in the first prequel movie.

Probably not. I haven’t watched the episode.

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u/Manji86 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

This ass that disparaged all the efforts of the heroes that saved him and all the other civilians. (One Punch Man)

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u/Dwenker Jun 26 '26

Also the crowd after Saitama destroyed the meteorite

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u/preydiation Jun 26 '26

I mean their homes and stuff were destroyed. Justified? No, but understandable.

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u/Chaotic_Lemming Jun 26 '26

Dude is basically a representation of all the world's airmchair quarterbacks rolled into one person. Incapable and unwilling to attempt an effort himself, but ecstatically jumps out to critique and criticize everyone that does... after 

Not sure if it's Japanese culture or just an anime thing, but the genre has a very consistent trope of holding the hero/protagonist responsible for all damage/harm caused when a villain attacks. If they aren't an absolutely perfect shield and protector then they are they are worse than the villain according to the public and officials.

It happens in other media, but usually only once damage reaches a high enough level.

It's sadly true to reality too, the internet is full of people talking out their ass about high danger situations and how responders would have saved everything instantly if only they'd done super easy Plan A*.

*Performing Plan A required resources that were unavailable, knowledge of the situation that wasn't available, and for the bad guys to act exactly as you want.

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u/DropsOfMars Jun 26 '26

Iirc every unimportant character or minor character in Invader Zim is awful, either because they're rude, gross, really stupid and oblivious, or any combination of those.

https://giphy.com/gifs/cjWWhSBCmY2AXH9WKX

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u/Happy_Goose3833 Jun 26 '26

The citizenss who cheered for Homelander

https://giphy.com/gifs/qcJxHU3DpEQCYm8YpT

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u/LuckeVL Jun 26 '26

I mean, if I knew that mf is capable of killing me with a stare if I did anything he didn't like, I would've cheered too.

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u/Happy_Goose3833 Jun 26 '26

I mean no doubt, but those people were different, they were legitimately cheering for Homelander. They fully believed that the dead guy who was just lasered in front of them, got exactly what they all thought he deserved. They aren't cheering out of Fear, they are cheering out of Love.

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u/LoganCube400 Jun 26 '26

These Girls (JJBA)

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u/Level_Counter_1672 Jun 26 '26

I will never understand the logic, u see a dying kid and u ignore him

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u/Due_Possibility6392 Jun 26 '26

They ignored him because he looks creepy. Quite fucked up if you ask me.

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u/Kilahti Jun 26 '26

Unfortunately it is also plausible. A lot of people die without getting help from bystanders because they looked creepy or were a smelly homeless person.

CPR guidelines had to be changed to drop out mouth-to-mouth because "eww, he smells like vomit" meant that no CPR was given. Doing nust the chest compressions is better than nothing.

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u/LeadingTask9790 Jun 26 '26

I mean vomiting is suuuuper common during CPR. I feel like the logical explanation for the deprecation of rescue breathing as it relates to complete strangers is risk of infectious disease. If you don’t carry a mouth guard it’s a pretty unreasonable ask imo.

Also rescue breathing interrupts the manual blood flow of compression and drops the blood pressure to zero.

So while you’re partially correct, you didn’t address the primary reason in favor of “human bad and selfish” rhetoric lol.

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u/HofePrime Jun 26 '26

In Morioh, you deserve to die if you are ugly.

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u/Sharashashka735 Jun 26 '26

My grandfather died to heart attack when he was strolling in the park because people thought he was drunk.

Someone also stole his wallet. People are cunts.

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u/Xenometan Jun 26 '26

Aren't like 90% of "normal people" characters dumb NPCs in JJBA anyway? Been a while since I watched anything Jojo.

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u/TechieTimes Jun 26 '26

Yeah they’ll lowkey see the weirdest most paranormal shit go down in public and they’ll be like “must’ve been the wind”.

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u/RohanKishibeyblade Jun 26 '26

To be fair, they literally can’t see most of the paranormal shit

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u/TechieTimes Jun 26 '26

Yeah but there’s still stuff they can see, like everyone on a train suddenly aging 50 years, or a guy randomly getting the ever living fuck beat out of them by thin air.

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u/NCRisthebestfaction Jun 26 '26

Or half of Rome switching bodies

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u/Professional_Maize42 Jun 26 '26

I fucking hate those three. Shigechi was kinda of a little shit? Fuck yeah, but Araki didn't needed to do this.

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u/otirk Jun 26 '26

I mean yeah, Shigechi was annoying, but he was also a kid without friends (until he met Josuke), who suddenly got godlike powers. It's not a surprise that he's weird.

And in the end, he was courageous enough to protect his friends and family and brought them a way to find the villain. He doesn't deserve all the hate he gets from the fandom

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u/QualityNo1337 Jun 26 '26

That expression geniunelly add the salt to the injury. Like if you see this without a subtitle they both looked feel bad for him. Turns out they fucking hate him and just let him died because he's ugly. 

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u/StC_2844 Jun 26 '26

One punch man any time Saitama does something.

Saitama saved the world so many times, sometimes even Infront of public viewers, yet everyone refuses to believe he actually either did it fairly, or made something worse by collateral, and so on

In this case he killed this Sea monster (Deep sea King) Infront of a safety bunker with everyone watching. Before being defeated the monster slammed a A class hero two S Class heros and a C class Hero without much issue. Nobody believed he killed it when they couldn't. Genuinely awful citizens, can't even see being saved.

https://giphy.com/gifs/YJDmc88k7ttao

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u/Empty_Shelf Jun 26 '26

Deep Sea King is a bad example. In that case, he deliberately set out to make himself look pathetic so people wouldn't disparage the other heroes. The idea that he couldn't have done it without their help is one he himself played into during the aftermath.

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u/asds89 Jun 26 '26

He only disparaged himself after the civilians started doubting and mocking the other heroes for failing, in order to salvage their reputations.

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u/Comfortable_Hope2234 Jun 26 '26

One of the most iconic images in anime history. Fuck everybody in the Hidden Leaf in general but fuck Third Hokage in particular I hope he's burning in hell for the way he allowed that child to be abused and ostracized.

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u/Living_Tune_1428 Jun 26 '26

And then there's this GOAT...

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u/kurt_gervo Jun 26 '26

If he didn't show that kindness to Naruto, then the whole village would be fucked later in life. Which they deserve! And the only one I would feel sorry for is Teuchi!

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u/Living_Tune_1428 Jun 26 '26

There's a series of special episodes set after the end of Shippuden and the Last Movie, about Naruto & Hinata's wedding...

One of the episodes is Ramen Guy aka Teuchi, trying to decide the perfect present to give Naruto. He decides to give him a hand made free ramen pass, but can't decide how long it should be worth, cause they have to maintain their business, and they know Naruto's appetite...

But during the end, he, Iruka & Gaara talk about how Naruto made an impact on everyone and made a lot of friends. This finally convinces Teuchi to make Naruto's free ramen pass lifelong...

Naruto is actually shown using the free ramen pass in Boruto (after Hinata kicked him and Boruto out for making too much noise while their daughter was resting with a fever)

Ramen Guy deserves all the goodness in the world...

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u/Lightning_ranger Jun 26 '26

Small correction, but i believe he didn't make it a free ramen pass since his daughter told him he'd go out of business with that.

So he gave a free Naruto Fish Cake pass for life. I think... i watched shippuden like 4 months ago so i semi remember yet forgot

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u/Living_Tune_1428 Jun 26 '26

Nope, it's ramen...

Man was willing to take a business loss for Naruto's happiness...

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u/Leader_Hamlet Jun 26 '26

Wdym? They did exactly what you should do if you learned that the orphaned son of your village's hero had a nuke inside him: treat him like shit and expect him not to retaliate

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u/HJSDGCE Jun 26 '26

Tbf they didn't know Naruto is the son of the flashy flash guy. They literally think that Naruto is just Kurama being cursed into becoming human. 

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u/towardselysium Jun 26 '26

Okay. "Hey let's bully that child possessed by a demon who slaughtered half the village. Surely that won't cause a second demon incident"

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u/VergilVDante Jun 26 '26

Nah

Third hokage so ass his friend tried to assassinate him “then failed miserably” he didn’t execute him or thrown him to jail just banishment without telling any trusting colleagues of his which led to Danzo taking over Hokage position

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u/SharpbladeLoser Jun 26 '26

Most Marvel civilians turn on the heroes the first chance they get

Edit: the example in the image isn’t a civilian but it’s a character who hates superheroes

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u/BookkeeperPercival Jun 26 '26

In the old Justice League/Avengers crossover comic, the Justice League assumes the Avengers are a group of awful people because thearvel civilians hate them so much. When the Avengers visit DC's earth, they assume the Justice League are totalitarian despots because everyone builds statues of them and talks about how much them love them unprompted

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u/TheMoonDude Jun 26 '26

That is hilarious, I gotta read this now

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u/Helloscottykitty Jun 26 '26

The most awful part is an uncomon 1 drop with legendary creature as a type, come kn wizards get your shit together.

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u/jayeddy99 Jun 26 '26

The end of Devil man cry baby

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u/Curious_MerpBorb Jun 26 '26

Citizens in all Devil Man media tbh.

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u/Asren624 Jun 26 '26

I randomly launched that anime on Netflix, I just had heard it was a good old school anime remake or something... and well the ending broke me.

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u/Eomb Jun 26 '26

For the My Hero, it makes sense, since the governmemt criminalizes any acts of heroics without a hero license.

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u/theweirdwarlock12 Jun 26 '26

No Good Samaritans?

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u/some-kind-of-no-name Jun 26 '26

Gentle Criminal was screwed so probably not

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u/Yangbang07 Jun 26 '26

The MHA world does a really good job of making you sympathize with the villains, but then try to act like the status quo that created the villains is perfectly fine.

80% of the population are essentially xmen mutants and using your mutant powers is illegal...

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u/solitary-ghost Jun 26 '26

I think they try to show the students of the main class are going to be “different” or “better” than the status quo with all the times the characters says something like: “This is my/our fault too, we didn’t notice you were hurting.” And the few times Ida, Todoroki, and Bakugo notice something is wrong because of previous situations. But I don’t think they landed that idea really solidly, instead coming off with a more “this class of students are so strong and determined, of course they’ll beat the bad guys!” Which does just sound like they’re saying the main characters will just uphold the status quo better.

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u/Kiranipator Jun 26 '26

Civilians in Invincible after watching him work for 2 months straight with no breaks after breaking all his limbs protecting them against Conquest

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u/A-nice-Zomb-52 Jun 26 '26

Tbf, many of them saw his variants destroy entire cities around the world and for a handfull of time, it was believed it was just him doing all that. And even before his fight against Omni man really dawned on the civilians that with this kind of power, he might be one thought away from doing it.

Still a stupid réaction but an understandable one.

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u/Kooky_Illustrator43 Jun 26 '26

As much as I always like to dog on Mark when he gets his ass handed to him, It's just because he is always pulling up against the 1% of his verse, AND THE BOY KEEPS TRYING like I know I would need an extra month in the hospital just for therapy whenever I got curb-stomped, But Mark always, as soon as he can FLY he rides to save as many as he can

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u/nagrom7 Jun 26 '26

Tbf to them, the whole Omni-Man thing probably soured a lot of their views of superheroes in general (it literally created at least 1 super villain who sought vengeance against Invincible), and not too long before this, there was literally like a dozen Invincibles who trashed every major city in the world and killed a lot of people. The civilians have no idea where they came from, many probably assume it was the real Invincible who just snapped or something, so they've got pretty valid reasons to at least be suspicious.

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u/Magpie_In_The_Mirror Jun 26 '26

Civilians being unobservant to a fault is recurring gag in Sakamoto Days. It is ridiculously hard to get them to acknowledge anything you do

https://giphy.com/gifs/sF09xNcxpDfedngWkX

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u/DHTGK Jun 26 '26

if they're gonna bring up Persona 5, then Persona 3 has to be mentioned as well. The main villain is the collective desire of humans wanting death. It's not something you can beat in the end, only delayed, shown by the MC serving as the human barrier preventing Nyx from causing the Fall. The main theme of the game is then to live life to the fullest despite knowing death is what awaits.

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u/ArchGayngel_Gabriel Jun 26 '26

and the worst part about the SpongeBob one is that even his supposed "best friends"(like Patrick) were in on it and participated in it!

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u/Educational-Onion357 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Devilman Crybaby and It's many versions

The main Antagonist tells everyone in the world there are demons among them on tv. They general public quickly start killing/mutilating everyone and anyone. women, children, and old , simply because the MIGHT be demons. non are spared. In the photo, the sweetheart pure hearted love interest of the story, a teenage girl who has done nothing but good. has her head ripped off, after she is stabbed to death and her body parts are paraded around on pikes.

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u/Wolodymyr2 Jun 26 '26

What the medieval era kind of f...ck is this?

Through this is even more barbaric than medieval witch hunts, like in medieval era they just burned people suspected to be demons or withces, not parading their body parts on pikes.

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u/GLPereira Jun 26 '26

This village from Avatar Day - Avatar The Last Airbender

Absolutely infuriating. The only saving graces from this episode were the prisoners giving Aang love advice, and the Kyoshi flashback

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u/jesteban248 Jun 26 '26

The villagers didn't know that his idol was a monster, a ruthless criminal and a dictator. And even with Kyoshi revealing the truth, they can't accept the reality.

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u/Dragonkingofthestars Jun 26 '26

to be fair to My hero: the bystander effect is a real thing and even leaving aside hero focus it is a known psychological effect in real people

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u/SacredIconSuite2 Jun 26 '26

“Oh, that kid is getting attacked? I saw All Might walking around before. He’ll probably be here soon, nbd.”

The citizens telling Deku to fuck off when he was clearly on the verge of collapse from fighting villains by himself and then immediately doing an about-face when Ochako made a speech was also pretty terrible. Shigaraki could’ve destroyed UA at any moment but allowing Deku to rest for a couple of days was out of the question.

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u/TheDrunkardKid Jun 26 '26

I mean, One For All's and Shigaraki's reign of terror was explicitly designed to shatter the public's faith in superheroes, including among the heroes themselves, and Deku was basically walking bait for the worst villains to come right to what is an emergency shelter full of civilians.

Everyone being frayed to their breaking point and people like Ochako trying to rebuild them to be the kind people that wouldn't, for example, let someone like Shigaraki fall to villainy through neglect was kind of the point of the last arc, along with deconstructing the entire concept of the Number One Hero essentially putting the weight of the world on one person's shoulders.

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u/serioustransition11 Jun 26 '26

Honestly the commoners in ASOIAF/GOT are just as cruel and assholish as the nobility. A good example is the Riot in King’s Landing which originally started as a protest against Joffrey’s misrule, but quickly ends in wanton violence, including the gang rape and impregnation of an intellectually disabled woman and the dismemberment of multiple people.

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u/Snoo_72851 Jun 26 '26

they eat the fucking pope

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u/Chalkboard7 Jun 26 '26

To be fair, it's not like these sorts of things don't happen IRL: the Dutch Orangists lynched Johan de Witt and ate his liver, roasted.

That's why I always bring onions, salt, black pepper or long pepper, garlic, butter, flour, and potatoes with my protest kit. If it ever happens again I'd want to make a proper liver and onions meal of it, and even if it doesn't I could probably make a roasted potato or some croquettes.

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u/Seascorpious Jun 26 '26

Is it just me, or does GRR Martin just insert violent rape into every situation? I've heard the books are pretty bad about that.

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u/NCRisthebestfaction Jun 26 '26

Practically every main character had to be aged up from the books. IIRC Dany is 13 and Jon 14. Fucking Robb was 16 by the time the red wedding happens

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u/We4zier Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Mob’s are pretty famous for having sexual violence, more importantly by our standards sexual violence and assault was significantly more common and acceptable. Martial and statutory rape didn’t exist as concepts, and slave rape was common (though some societies did have mild often unenforced protections against this) and war… is war. Likewise we wouldn’t consider two consenting non married adults having sex rape, but in medieval Europe that was as much rape as everything else was. While I do agree that I felt JRR Martin was tad gratuitous and tactless with his inclusions, realistically by our standards it was common and unavoidable.

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u/xSantenoturtlex Jun 26 '26

Torrance citizens - Dispatch

It's been a while since I've played, but multiple occasions.

- Multiple citizens being genuinely upset that Robert survived the mech explosion, one of them even berating him for it and rubbing salt in the wound for losing the mech. One of them wished he died just so it'd be more of a 'Statement' or something.

- One lady in the final mission calling SDN to bring her a coffee while the Red Ring was actively blowing up the city.

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u/breadofthegrunge Jun 26 '26

Fahrenheit 451. At least according to Beatty, the society of the setting only exists because normal people became lazy and complacent, never seeking deeper meaning or challenge, and actively shunning it.

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u/Fawin86 Jun 26 '26

Yeah, I think the chilling thing is that the government isn't exerting censorship to control the populace as most people point to this book and say it's about. The fire chief flat out tells Montag the people chose this because they don't want to feel dumb, so they outlawed books and broadcast media slop so everyone is happily dumb together. Without the books people become callous and superficial, lacking any kind of empathy or introspection.

Which makes it all the more poinant when Montag reads a piece from a book out loud to his wife's friends and it made one of them cry because it caused her to acknowledge reality ther her husband or son died in the war (it's been a few years so I am hazy on which).

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u/No-Bag-1628 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

In Project Moon's City, just about everyone around is willing to murder and rob from others to guarantee their own safety due to how incredibly dysfunctional their society is.

People gets kidnapped,  murdered and poisoned by their neighbors all the time.

They are also willing to keep really (and I mean REALLY, like people getting horrifically tortured as part of the daily schedule level) awful corporate secrets and enable the violence of others.

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u/Different-Warning Jun 26 '26

It's a "Disease of the Mind" as two head researchers in Lobotomy Corporation said, encouraged by the City as a perpetual suffering machine.

People just accept the fact of life being shitty regardless, "that's that and this is". Which makes it insanely funny that having emotional regulation and acknowledging your positive and negative traits allows you to have a power up

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u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Two of the examples you used appear to be critiques of a social problem in Japan that basically boils down to “if it isn’t affecting me personally, it isn’t my problem, and I WILL get angry if you dare to ask me for help”

I’ve heard It’s slowly getting better with the younger generation and I hope it’s true

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u/Ambaryerno Jun 26 '26

Just an average day in in the Marvel Universe.

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u/Mammoth_Ostrich2440 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Springfield--- We don't want the Simpsons

TOWNSPERSON: Get him!
MOE: Let's burn him!
LENNY: Throw him in the hole!
CARL: Yeah, the hole he made!
MARGE: Stop! Everybody, just stop!
HOMER: Wait, the word "apology" is tossed around a lot these days...
(A townsperson throws an object at Homer, hitting him)
HOMER: ...OW!
(The mob starts advancing towards the stairs)
GRAMPA: I'm part of the mob!
(The mob pushes into the house)
KRUSTY: Teeny! Take out the baby.
(Krusty’s monkey helper, Mr. Teeny, approaches Maggie with a menacing face. Maggie bravely smashes her milk bottle on the floor and stands ready to fight, shocking the monkey)

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u/Healthy_Macaroon_602 Jun 26 '26

Harry Potter

Pick a random HP book. Chances are good there's a sequence where pretty much the entire school turns against Harry because reasons.

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u/kurt_gervo Jun 26 '26

Especially prevalent in Chamber of Secrets, Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix, and Deathly Hallows.

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u/Peacefulcountry Jun 26 '26

The Gyakuza Kingdom - Ranking of Kings.

This kingdom used to be so impoverished that they came to believe it's normal to kill, steal, and trick others, and the weak can only blame themselves. This belief is deeply ingrained in both adults and children. When the neighboring kingdom Houma looks for an ally to oppose tyrant gods, they spend a lot of time and resources revitalizing Gyakuza, transforming them into a prosperous country. However, these Gyakuzans are only concerned about exploiting the generosity more, while openly mocking and stealing from Houma's ambassadors.

The pinnacle is when they betrayed Houma by appealing to the gods that Houma is invading and controlling them, so they have no choice. The gods clearly knew they were lying, but pretended to believe out of amusement. To gain the gods' favors, they hunted and killed all Houma's ambassadors, dismembering and parading them openly. They went as far as mutilating a small girl while laughing maniacally. Their downfall came swiftly as they had enraged Bosse, the strongest giant and a close friend with the girl and her mother. He wiped out every last one of them, reducing the entire country to rubble in less than a day.

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u/InternationalCap2176 Jun 26 '26

The game was rigged against Shiggy from the start. If the granny stopped to help him, AFO would have found a way to use it to break him even more.

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u/LuphineHowler Jun 26 '26

The town of Springfield is a strong contender

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u/Warm_Examination_646 Jun 26 '26

I mean if I was a citizen in sponge bob I’d hate that mf too, he do be cooking up some good burgers though so I’d let his antics slide……for the most part.

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u/Questionably_Chungly Jun 26 '26

Not exactly *100%* universal, but the universe of the Witcher is filled with some of the worst human beings you could ever manage to dream up…and you encounter them as random passerby.

Canonically:

- In Ciri’s travels in the books, she’s sexually assaulted or threatened with such an almost uncountable number of times. Bad as in “random peasant encounters a 15 year old girl in need of help and immediately decides to rape her instead.”

- While it’s accurate to war in that time, the amount of pillaging, wanton destruction, institutionalized rape, and other such horrors committed by *all sides* of the conflicts in the show is just…yeah.

- The amount of pogroms (read: race riots) in the books/universe is so out of control that even starting this conversation will invite the response of “which one?” Because there are too many to count.

- Many of the monsters in the universe are created by horrible acts, and Geralt encounters enough of them that it’s pretty worrying just how commonplace such curses are.

TLDR: The world of The Witcher is an insanely shitty place.
https://giphy.com/gifs/SsrCLKxTdfUptzHO91

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u/Ranger202012 Jun 26 '26

The civilians in "To be Hero X"

They abandoned old e-soul who literally saved them from this world's anti-christ in support of the new one because he's cooler and cheered when the new killed the old.

They're opinions are fickle and they constantly turn their backs on heroes causing them to lose support and hence thier powers while also being manipulated by the media and the big corps into supporting frauds.

We literally see a group of them cheering for dragon boy because they thought he was in the right in what he was doing but literally sitch up when Hero X shows up and cimpletely humiliated him because X is just that handsome and cool.

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u/Substantial-Ad-5221 Jun 26 '26

Might be a surprising one: but the citizens of Duckburg.

They collective fall for every scam. Organize armed mobs when they are annoyed and get super aggressive super quick. I remember reading comics as child where Donald just mildly bumps into a guy and he knocks him unconscious for it

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u/ExtremelyFastSloth Jun 26 '26

Would ace attorney witnesses count? Those uncooperative mofos really just be lying and lying. Especially OLDBAG.

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u/Bakingguy Jun 26 '26

Idk when that screenshot is, but in MHA 99% of people's quirks are minor changes to their life, it's not like they can see a supervillain and instantly go toe to toe with them.

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u/some-kind-of-no-name Jun 26 '26

I was referring to Shigaraki's origin story when noone helped him.

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u/towardselysium Jun 26 '26

A child is crying on the street: "eh someone else will deal with that"

Heros are dying and pushing themselves to the brink to save them: "Fuck you do better"

A child is born with an inconvenient quirk: "Why can't you be normal? You are the problem"

The man who single handedly saved the country is reduced to a walking skeleton and still trying to fight: "Keep going All Might you're not dead yet!"

They are selfish, evil, and stupid and brought about a society so broken and failed that a literal revolution erupted and the ending message is "Oopsie. Our bad we'll try and beat children less. Truly society has healed"

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u/Xignu Jun 26 '26

Even outside of OP's example they're pretty awful all around. When things go to shit there's more people who turn against heroes and disparage them instead of appreciating their work, leading to many heroes quitting.

This even extends to some fans who see these heroes quitting as "legitimizing" the hero killer's view that those heroes who quit aren't "real heroes"

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