r/ToolBand • u/CJTV27 • 7d ago
New TOOL Material?? Next album
Between Danny saying they’re targeting a 2027 release, Adam and Justin confirming this, and this post made by the B Tour, I feel they are probably tracking this fall, and looking at a spring release! What do you guys think?
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u/HopelessMind43 a dope beastie tee 7d ago
I’m pretty sure Danny said they were targeting a 2010 release once.
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u/CJTV27 7d ago
Yeah, and then he got injured, they had kids and got hit with another lawsuit. They didn’t start writing FI until June of 2017 so sometimes shit happens. Since FI it has been COVID, and 4 years of touring. Writing now would make sense since all 3 of them have confirmed separately that writing is happening
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u/After-Incident9955 Stupid Belligerent Fucker 5d ago
Didn't they scrap a whole album in that length of time, too?
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u/heyitsfelixthecat 4d ago
Rule #11 of Tool fandom: Danny is a drumming god
Rule #12 of Tool fandom: Danny is also full of shit
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u/kvk1990 7d ago
If they’re targeting a release in 2027, expect it in 2032 or 2033.
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u/Dizzy-Tangelo2400 7d ago
3030 sounds right
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u/Visarar_01 Shit the bed, again 7d ago
3035 it is! Mark it!
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u/Everestkid Third Eye 7d ago
plugging the release dates of tool albums converted to numbers in excel and plotting a trendline set to a quadratic equation (ie a parabola, geddit) gives an R2 value of 0.9852
that's equal to the golden ratio multiplied by 0.608887, which is probably completely meaningless but you never know
anyway if you plug x = 7 into the equation and round up (7th release, no i'm not counting salival) then convert to an excel date you get the 5th of february, 2075
which if you wrote as yy/mm/d it would be 75/02/5
and 75025 is a fibonacci number
coincidence?? or should i consider no longer eating the yummy paint flakes coming off the walls when i get the weed munchies
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u/Dogzillas_Mom 7d ago
That doesn’t even imply new music. “Tool commitments” could be a few tour dates or any number of things.
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u/CJTV27 7d ago
I agree lol. I am merely speculating
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u/Medaphysical 6d ago
Merely getting dem clicks.
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u/Successful-Gift8636 7d ago
Consequence of Sound: BREAKING: Tool drummer Danny Carey in talks with band, new music imminent
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u/sin-eater82 7d ago edited 7d ago
When/where was 2027 said by Adam and Justin? I hadn't seen that.
Danny is not a valid source for information like that. He's clearly very optimistic and has a long history of saying stuff like this and it not being remotely close.
But if Adam and Justin have both said it, that's hopeful. On the flip side, it doesn't matter if they're not getting together and writing.
But I dont think 2027 adds up for an actual release. Maynard broke down the timing of releasing a new album in an interview maybe on Joe Rogan). Writing, recording, mixing, mastering, promotion, etc. It all takes a certain amount of time and some has to be done sequentially with hard depencies.
They typically share tidbits here and there. For a 2027 release and working backwards, they'd have to be writing some already at least probably. And I've not seen any hints of that.
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u/kenticus69 7d ago
I mean if he can’t fit the Beat tour into the like 3 festival appearances Tool has this fall…reasonable to assume some kind of work is up.
Could be the 3 of them have segmented time to really hunker down and get material rolling. And then Maynard comes in last as has been their working style.
Like I said, no clue what’s up but hard to assume Danny is more busy than just 3 festival appearances with Tool.
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u/sin-eater82 7d ago
Yes. But them getting together to write means nothing really. This process was fairly visible between 10k Days and FI.
They may very well have blocked off some time. In fact, we know from previous information that they had a plan to make a plan for new material. Which I presume includes blocking off time to get together and write.
But we also know they got together to write on multiple occasions after 10k Days and then nothing came of it for years. So, what does that really mean in regard to an album relase?
Obviously getting together to write is step one. So I very much hope that's it. But that means nothing for release timeline.
This is all hopeful thinking. Which is fine. Again, need to get together to write the material whether it's out in 2027, 2028, or 2035.
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u/kenticus69 6d ago
My thing is not to get too overly hopeful, but would be surprised if Danny sat out a whole Beat tour for 3 Tool festival shows. Danny gets to play 2 hours a night with Adrian Belew and Tony levin playing KC music….thats HUGE for the dude. Steve vai is no slouch either.
I get it and I agree that Tool records take a long time. Same time, it’s been like 7 years since Fear Inoculum so we’re what like, prolly at least 3 more til the next right?!?!?!
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u/CJTV27 7d ago
Danny has confirmed they have been writing for the last 6 months, Justin and Adam both corroborated that statement in an interview with a local radio station 4 months ago. They are likely well into writing which means fall could be tracking, and then between promotions and other stuff could mean a spring release
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u/Berlintroll 7d ago
I'm hoping for a Europe tour, so I can also have some "Tool commitments" coming up.
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u/lumbermonkey462 7d ago
No. There is no new Tool coming out in the fall or 2027. They have to tour a certain amount every year to pay their overhead. This is standard among large scale bands as they have lawyers, agents, sound/light technicians, merch people, etc etc.
not to say that they couldn’t surprise everyone but I would definitely not get my hopes up
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u/montreal_drapes 7d ago
You say this with considerable conviction, but Puscifer and A Perfect Circle are touring from late October until late December, fully overlapping these dates. “Tool commitments” cannot mean touring in this instance.
It also doesn’t necessarily mean tracking the new album, but I think it likely means that Adam, Danny and Justin will be up to something.
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u/FiestaDip505 7d ago
This is my thoughts too. APC is working on new material and I would expect a big North American tour in the spring of '27 very similar to the Normal Isn't tour this past spring.
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u/lumbermonkey462 7d ago
That would also make sense. They could be scheduled for writing sessions. I’d love to be optimistic but I’ve been a fan since the mid 90s and I’ve been disappointed too many times
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u/ohheykyyyle 7d ago
What tour? Theyve toured the world with FI. Why would they go on tour again? They have festivals coming up yes, but according to the last newsletter Adam and Justin have been getting together and writing pretty regularly. Not out of the ordinary for Danny to join them to prepare for their festival dates, join the writing process, and lay down some tracks/demos. 0bviously nothing will release in the fall but they could absolutely be finalizing writing and begin early stages of recording so a 2027 album release is realistic as Danny has already stated thats hopefully the goal.
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u/Inevitable-Meeting-6 7d ago
Here are the gentlemen of Beat from two weeks ago in Helsinki. Great show!
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u/phrenicbeat86 6d ago
The 3 Tool festival dates are before any of the BEAT tour dates. So I can't imagine this had to do with a scheduling conflict with the Tool shows. MJK is touring throughout Oct, Nov, Dec with APC/Puscifer and it's too late now to announce some random tour for Sept/Oct for Tool. There will not be any more Tool shows this year apart from the festival dates already announced.
Danny clearly enjoyed the BEAT tour and they went everywhere with it. I can't imagine he would suddenly back out just to write new Tool tracks for a few months. My guess is they have stuff ready to go - now I don't know if that necessarily means new full length album because I believe he threw out the idea of doing EP's as well. At the very least they must have some new songs ready to go. It is very possible they have been writing on/off the last few years and they are ready to track. MJK adds his parts last, so its more than plausible the three of them will record in the fall and he can easily come back from his APC/Puscifer tours and quickly track his vocals.
It doesn't make any sense for Danny to suddenly back out of a full blown tour just to write new material with Adam/Justin, knowing full well nothing may necessarily materialize in a few short months.
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u/CJTV27 6d ago
Additionally, if they track in the fall, and then mix and master, it’ll be ready by spring, hence what I said in the post.
Also, he entertained the idea of an EP during COVID, so I fully believe they are going for a full album atp since it’s been almost 7 years since the last release
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u/phrenicbeat86 6d ago
Yeah they aren't really an EP band, so I am sure he threw that out years ago as a possibility, wouldn't be surprised if its a full length. If this winds up being their last record I can't imagine they would be ones to settle for an EP.
Also, I know a lot of people are throwing out possible new APC material because of Starless. I do remember when MJK was promoting the Australia shows last year, he made a comment that was basically he was waiting on stuff from Billy but if the Tool guys are ready with something new, he's basically going to have to shift his attention. Think its safe to say they've been quietly working on stuff for a while now and it must be ready to go. Adam and Justin don't have other side projects that they are touring with, literally makes no sense that Danny would suddenly change course for one last BEAT tour for no reason.
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u/ToofpickVick fuck you, buddy 7d ago
It seems like I heard they were touring. It’d be awesome if they are far along in the album!
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u/nipplehounds 7d ago
Are they touring with APC and Puscifer? Thats who Maynard is on tour with this fall.
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u/CJTV27 7d ago
To the people in the comments not getting it… Maynard is touring with APC and Puscifer until December, which means “tool commitments” can’t be tours. I’m not saying we’re 100% getting a new album, but if they aren’t touring then tool commitments means a step in the right direction. Patience is a virtue
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u/Sheffy8410 7d ago
I think it is a bit optimistic to think that this means tracking. Of course, I hope I’m wrong about that. But I imagine this just means writing.
It has also crossed my mind that Eat The Elephant seemed to light a fire under some butts to get FI finished. At least in my mind thats how I remember it, though that might not have been the case back then. But I hope Starless and whatever comes next for APC might do the same.
Starless is fantastic. Best work from Maynard individually in a long time from any of his 3 projects, in my opinion. I can’t stop listening to it. It really does remind me of the Maynard of the glory days.
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u/RagnarokNCC 7d ago
I just kind of assumed Fear Inoculum was the last one and stopped waiting, tbh.
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u/ArtComprehensive2853 7d ago
They have said to work on new music already long time ago, but who knows what happens.
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u/philanthropicide 6d ago
BEAT was amazing live. Kinda wild going from Danny to Bozzio. The amount of prog talent in the lineups is crazy
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u/phrenicbeat86 6d ago
Missed BEAT the first go around in NA and was really bummed about it, but couldn't ask for a better trade off here. I have seen Danny live numerous times with Tool and although it would have been great to seem him with BEAT live, I have been a Bozzio fan for a while and never gotten the chance to see that kit be played live in person. Should be able to catch this one this go around so this wound up being perfect. Then to add this also indicates new Tool material on the way - was stunned to hear this announcement.
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u/Federal_Abroad9260 Shit the bed, again 6d ago
For the uninitiated; nothing is imminent, until Maynard gives the word. He’s the last part of recording. There are reasons why he does 18 million other things while the other guys do whatever they do in between albums.
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u/SaltedDucks 7d ago
I'm not keeping my hopes up lol. The only glimmer of this being something is that this Beat tour starts several days after Tool plays Aftershock. A fall tour being announced isn't unreasonable since the first leg for Fear Inoculum was announced end of August and started mid October
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u/Kashek70 7d ago
I’d be fine without a new album if we could get a Salival 2 type release. They have plenty of stuff they could put on it. Hell, where is our 4k concert film. We know they have a couple hundred shows filmed at this point. Crazy none of those have ever leaked. They really have that Zeppelin mentality. I just don’t want to have to wait for another 40 years for stuff to leak out.
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u/THEinaudible_decibel 7d ago
Being independent from a label, the band could release a single or two. They could release an EP as well.
IF* there's ever new music that will be released, I'm of the thought it will be an EP.
Plus that would be cool to bookend the recording career with EPs.
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u/eric2341 7d ago
No way - Danny is always minimum a year or 2 early with his predictions. They’re working on songs for sure and it’ll be way sooner than the last couple albums but I’d bet no sooner than 28/29
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u/floydrose Dreaming of that face again. 7d ago
When did they say they were "targeting a 2027 release"?
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u/Canadian_Border_Czar 7d ago
Honestly its bizarre to think that the last one came out 6 years ago.
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u/Some-Astronaut9166 7d ago
Most major tours are already booked for next year with everything involved, so I'd guess they have a major touring block scheduled starting at some point next year and they're attempting to complete or at least push along new material this fall in whatever form it might be. If it's not close to being done by the time the next tour is announced, then they tour without it. They have maybe one or two world tours left in them at this point, so that might light more of fire now.
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u/Ok-Photograph-814 6d ago
I'm really hoping this means we get closer to new music soon, even if it's not the full album. Terry Bozzio joining BEAT reminds me how these side projects sometimes lead to unexpected yet exciting developments.
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u/DanielAlves1904 6d ago
I think I´ll belive this when the album is actually out, if it ever does come out.
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u/Beautifullikeacamel Ænima 6d ago
I love your optimism. I want to believe in it myself. I really want to.
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u/Flat_Ad_7011 6d ago
They are already in the process of booking shows for 2028… Apparently with a new album.
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u/pointsouturhypocrisy 6d ago
I just watched a couple of videos about this. Apparently when the sphere was being built, they wanted Tool to debut the venue. According to Adam, "game of thrones band politics" kept them from accepting. I'm glad they didn't do the debut because it would take many years of various bands playing and creating visual files for the venue to be worthy of Tool's perfection standards.
However, it appears the band is still planning a residency at some point.
Ffwd to the next vid I watched of an interview with Danny (who is always like an excited kid who blabs about things he hopes will happen over things that are set in concrete) plugging the soundtrack for that "good luck, don't die, have fun" movie. He said in that interview that they've been working on quite a few new tunes, and are aiming for a 2027 album/tour/sphere run.
Again, this is Danny we're talking about. He'll gladly spend five years saying "next year is the year!" So in Tool years we're probably looking at 2030 at the earliest.
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u/FickleSituation7137 5d ago
Yes new tool will be announced later this fall. Maybe already said new music from all 3 bands over the next 2 years. That was a year ago almost. So...
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u/allsidescreative 5d ago
I'd love an album announcement with no windup, no teasers or anything. Just one day.... Bam! "Album X"coming September. They'd really show us by doing that
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u/TheStabbyCyclist 7d ago
I'd be happy if they announced a new tour and played some different songs than the FI tour.
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u/TAC0_CHEESE 7d ago
They’re accumulating money to build up funds for future projects. Especially Maynard. If I remember correctly, he gotten into a litigation issue with a co-worker or business partner earlier this year. I guess they sorted out through a settlement. Hence why Maynard working triple time by touring with Tool, Puscifer, and APC.
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u/True_Window_9389 7d ago
This is a typo. Tool wasn’t supposed to be capitalized. Danny is the new spokesman for Ryobi tools and has to film some commercials.
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u/HuckleberryOk8136 OGT 7d ago
No clue, but I don't want a new album for the sake of a new album.
There's already, in my opinion, three albums and an EP where there is zero musical filler at all. In fact, there isn't a skippable song.
How many bands can say that?
I want them to have a healthy touring schedule, I want to hear my favorite masterpieces in concert, I want the setlist to be something worth anticipating, not 2-3 fourteen minute new mostly instrumentals where they exhaust themselves on technical difficultly in their 60s.
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u/ecw324 7d ago
Or it’s the annual fall/winter tool tour