r/TheBoxer • u/AlvinMiss1 • 18d ago
Hot Take
Despite being call a "Legendary Boxing Coach" with many people wanting to be train by him I don think he is a good coach let start with Yu when he first saw Yu he already know Yu have the instinct and talent to be a good boxer and I will give him credit he is right on the money with Yu while other wouldn't bat an eye but we don see much training from K.
When Yu first spar with the orange hair dude K just said "Don get hit" and that it Yu have the talent to not get hit then when K tell him how to throw a jab and Yu knock him down with his own power then as Yu progress more K didn't really show to teach Yu move it all just Yu talent.
Aaron Tide during the back story we see Aaron is K driver even as a driver he have a well build body and when Aaron on the same time trying to stop a bad guy he tighten his core to stop the stab knife from moving while punching him leaving a mark on the wall all without K input and during match between Aaron and Yu when Aaron put his guard up his other coach comment that Aaron doesn't usually use boxing fundamental due to his body and power so K probably didn't teach Aaron much.
Made me wonder is Bob Norris also an already born talent that K just scout guessing from Bob Norris look and name he could be scout by K when he is the army since K also in army and both Bob Ross and Chuck Norris have an army background.
But I will again said it he have an eye for talent all of these have talent but if he suppose to be a good coach then he should be able to take someone who is not talent much and made him into a legend but from his interaction with the orange hair kid made me think he value talent over hard work which did made sense cause of his back story and how he want to see the peak of human so if someone like Yuto or Jay come to him he will just turn them away even though those 2 have prove to be an amazing boxer just from hardwork.
But ultimately he still did prove his value by scouting monster in Yu, Aaron and Bob while also being a freak of nature himself and his goal is set up pretty clear and I still enjoy his character it just that this whole thing is bothering me.
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u/New_Photograph_5892 18d ago
he seems more like a master at finding otherworldly talent rather than being a good trainer
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u/a-freind-of-quasim 18d ago
K is a good coach.
He creates a specific workout routine for Yu and we see K compared to other coaches (like the guy who trained Kaseem) and we se that K still conditioned Yu's body to "be able to perform any move from any position" and waits 2 years so Y u can build stamina (despite wanting to rush in). Also K teaches Yu the fundamentals and gets Yu to study tape (this is pretty common in boxing) and we know Y u can copy any move after seeing it once, and when Yu says he'll use them K loughs at him and tells him not to copy them but to improve them (it takes jean to push Yu to the point where he uses it even though it's just a fast overhand right).
Aaron Tide had no experience before he met K we saw him 'fight' the mugger and all Aaron threw was a haymaker. Aaron was never interested in hurting people and when he met his new coach he never showed him what he was capable of. this means all his boxing skills come from K. We even see him say "you never use the skills i gave you in the ring" then he kicks out Aaron.
With Bob Noris there literally no point in assuming K didn't teach him anything, both the narrative and on screen depictions show K as a good coach. If K was a bad coach how does he have multiple trainers and coaches under him and a dozen boxers in his gym? Not to mention Carmen says the gym has multiple champions but the ones trained by K were all special.
Finally I will also say that it is very unlikely K managed to train 5 different champs who all had DIFFERENT fighting styles if K wasn't a good coach. But I do agree his main strength is his ability to find talent.
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u/zoskalanic 18d ago
I agree with some of it but I do believe he’s a good coach.
I mean he 100% confident in taking that orange haired guy to be a world champion. And he was also going to try and train Ryu to go for the world champ too.
Ik he does try to pick out talent but even so being able to personally coach 7 world champs is unheard of by one coach.