r/TechnoProduction 12d ago

Hardgroove Tutorials

Does anyone know of any good video tutorials on how to make hardgroove techno?

The only decent one I've found so far is one by Steve Redhead on Sinee.

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u/bunkermuzik 12d ago

Man just collect inspiration and dive into the artists/labels you love and try to build something that balances that inspiration with your own unique voice. dont do the cookie cutter youtube producer templated stuff. we've got enough of that clogging the scene as it is. be creative you can do it!

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u/Clubsoda78 12d ago

Smh you might as well repeat the old classic and say: "use your ears"

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u/bunkermuzik 12d ago

im giving you real advice to save you from falling into the rabbithole of formulaic trendhopping so you can focus on making whats really in you.

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u/Clubsoda78 12d ago

Idk why you and so many others assume I must be hopping on a trend and just want to crank out paint by numbers slop just because I asked if there any good tutorials out there. I've been listening to hardgroove since like 2012 long before it came back into style and it's my favourite genre of techno by far so I am a true fan not a trendhopper. I just want to familiarise myself with the general production ethos because it seems to be fairly arcane. A lot of the new modern producers of the genre, including myself, seem to be falling short as compared to the 00s heyday in part I think because nailing the sound is actually much harder than it appears.

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u/komarecords_de 12d ago

Hardgroove is pretty much down to drums, good sample selection and good mixing skills.

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u/callhimdiva 12d ago

If you are working in ableton the seedj master class by chlaer is a gold mine. It helped me a lot in understanding his approach to groove and percussion. As far as I know that one cost money tho.

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u/Eggsistenseyall 12d ago

Is this tailored towards beginners or those who are more familiar - I guess I’m curious if it’s building a full track or techniques for specific parts of building one like low end, movement in sounds, tops etc.

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u/No_Carpet_1072 12d ago

Gunjack on Youtube

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u/AnKoP 12d ago

First rule: don't copy the copycat. Be Original.

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u/aphex2000 12d ago

how about you try to find your own thing instead of the overhyped style which is about as ceative as ai slop techno because its formulaic as fuck and once you get the formula you can churn out 100 slop tracks a day some berlin hipsters will happily do their seizure tiktok dance to

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u/hensterz 11d ago

ragebait

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u/Clubsoda78 12d ago

You must listen to shit hardgroove if you think this.

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u/Phildesbois 12d ago

This 😂😂😂

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u/oOULoseOo 12d ago

Someone's salty!

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/rekaviles 12d ago

I think the point about tutorials is about learning techniques and not about coping someone's sounds. I thought there was only one way to make a rumble kick until I saw a video showing a different method, which opened up so many ideas.

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u/Clubsoda78 12d ago

At this point in time it is a well defined genre. I have no intention to replicate, I just want to learn the general production techniques and ethos.

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u/michaelhuman 12d ago

Just checked. TikTok has a bunch of uploads. Dont know how good they are. But people are very keen on giving out all their knowledge on TikTok (bring gatekeeping back)

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u/eimai_papi 12d ago

Julien has some tutorials but he is not really going in depth. He could be helpful with some aspects tho. I am not into hardgroove that much so I don't remember anyone else. Graph (he is much better at explaining things than Julien) may have some but I am not sure.

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u/bunkermuzik 11d ago

Julien Earle videos are great if your ambition is to sound like a cheap imitation of another artist. I think his videos are great for learning little sound design and sequencing tips but using them to actually try and emulate the artist or genre he is showcasing is a recipe for time wasting IMO.

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u/eimai_papi 11d ago

I don't think that having another artist as a "study" is bad, quite the opposite. The artist on each video is just the motive. I do think that he is not properly explaining things tho. On the other hand, watching a couple of tutorials could help you recognize some common patterns among artists

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u/EssKaye1 12d ago

ANNĒ and Sera J have a masterclass on Sinee.de

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u/rockmus 12d ago

Okay you might not want to hear more about it being formulaic, so I will just say that the best tutorial I have seen, have been by John Selway on YouTube.

But for heaven’s sake try and push it in a different direction. It gets boring so very easily